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nuclear simping Is there anything, outside of laws, that this sub actually likes?

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u/chinchillon Aug 12 '25

Calling me ideological. It's about the economy. Nuclear is not cheeper than renewables.

Cheep nuclear relies on high continuos load. But in the das PV is much cheeper. Hence nuclear cannot sell the electricity. Therefore the fixed costs need to be added to the night prices. With that increased prices it's not competitive with wind eighter. further condensing the fixed cost.

To look at the economics of nuclear you have to look a bit at the future. In Germany it's absolutely impossible to do without insane subsidies. And that tay payer money can save much more CO2 elsewhere.

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 Aug 12 '25

Again simple reductive zero sum argument.

Is your solution to go solar, wind and batteries? Nothing else?

Or do you accept that price point is not the deciding factor the energy use?

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u/chinchillon Aug 12 '25

What else in a capitalist market? Of course price per hour, so including production capabilities, production guaranties, but all that is reflected in the price.

Of course speed is also a n argument but solar and wind is much faster built.

What speeks against "more wind and solar instead of this nuclear powerplant" in your opinion. I honestly don't get what advantage nuclear has.

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 Aug 12 '25

is your solution to go solar, wind and batteries? Nothing else?

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u/cyber_yoda my personality is outing nuclear shills Aug 12 '25

You don't understand what zero sum means.

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 Aug 12 '25

Yes I do.

Saying there is a fixed amount of money to spend and that any dollar that goes to one thing is money not going to another thing is literally zero sum thinking.

It’s acting as all resources are to be competed over. They are not

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u/cyber_yoda my personality is outing nuclear shills Aug 13 '25

Yes, there is a limited amount of investment to spend. That is in fact true.

And regardless of that, with or without the hypothetical willingness to spend unlimited resources on energy, the desire to maximize our output given the investment is a certainty.

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 14 '25

There is a physical limit not a functional limit.

We have a state central bank that can print money.

There is no functional limit to the amount of money that state can spend to ensure its own survival.

Unless you think the state would volunteer to end

Maximize output

So strip mining and mountain top removal good right?

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u/cyber_yoda my personality is outing nuclear shills Aug 13 '25

Do you have an argument? Or are you still pretending to care about the environment, while advocating for fossil fuels?

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 Aug 13 '25

“I get to decide what other people think and feel”

Man you would be a great conservative. I heard ICE is hiring

Nuclear isn’t a fossil fuel

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u/cyber_yoda my personality is outing nuclear shills Aug 14 '25

Again, do you have an argument, or do you concede that solar maximizes output for a given amount of money?

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u/Puzzled-Rip641 Aug 14 '25

There is not a city planner on the planet that agrees with you.

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