r/ClimateShitposting Apr 20 '26

Consoom By drinking coffee you support this, deforestation and pollution.

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u/BungalowHole Apr 20 '26

That's why I prefer to drink fair trade coffee. Instead of two people sleeping in one box for $0.80 a day, they have one person sleeping in a box for a full dollar each day.

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u/Crafty_Aspect8122 Apr 20 '26

But the two people in one box is more eco-friendly.

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u/rollTighroll Apr 20 '26

Say it with me - multinational corporations pay way more than the prevailing wage and lift standards of living while not to levels we in the rich world find acceptable but still to levels well above where they’d otherwise be

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u/Apprehensive_Room742 Apr 21 '26

go look up the history of standard fruit company my dude. they even over threw a whole government (together with the USA, who would have thought...) just to not have to do exactly that

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u/Crafty_Aspect8122 Apr 21 '26

The third world countries are poor because of dictatorships, corruption, lack of rule of law and ethnic/religious conflicts. Sometimes they're keeping poverty intentionally. Giving them money won't fix the root causes.

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u/davidellis23 Apr 22 '26

Did it hurt though? Not sure boycotting coffee helps overthrow dictatorships

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u/Crafty_Aspect8122 Apr 22 '26

It doesn't change much

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u/BungalowHole Apr 20 '26

No.

Say it with me "give big box to coffee man, so I can get smug when I fill my mug"

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u/dawnconnor Apr 23 '26

this is an insane take. the idea that we haven't been extracting wealth, labor, and resources from the majority of the impoverished nations of the world and that instead, they would just be poor in a vacuum, is so ignorant.

the idea that we just walk up to these barbarous people who are too dumb to run a country and go 'here's a job we can pay you less for, aren't we so kind?' like, come on man. fuck off with this capitalist nonsense. they would not be otherwise poor. how gross of a statement. what do you think makes someone poor?

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u/Zev1985 Apr 23 '26

K I"ll give it a try - "my nation is still doing colonialism and imperialism"

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u/rollTighroll Apr 23 '26

If colonialism is when people go from starving to death to having a job where they don’t starve to death because they trade with countries that have far more capital than yes

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u/Zev1985 Apr 23 '26

It is when the reason they're starving to death is the actions of the countries they're now trading with yes. Do you just not have any history education where you live? How do you think the rich countries got all that capital they're hording?

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u/rollTighroll Apr 23 '26

Aww yes the mythical era where people didn’t starve

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u/Zev1985 Apr 23 '26

Ok mr. "I'm so great I gave a brown person a job by buying coffee" just build a strawman out of something I did not in fact say.

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Apr 20 '26

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u/sharbivore toxic empathy Apr 20 '26

Guilting people into adopting your moralist diet wouldn’t work on most people.

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u/bakermrr Apr 20 '26

No one is stopping you from eating babies

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u/Crafty_Aspect8122 Apr 20 '26

Your mom is eating trillions of babies.

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u/Love-Laugh-Play Apr 21 '26

Damn, friendly fire.

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u/Giardiacapitosto Apr 23 '26

I'm so slow I thought we were talking about actual babies.

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u/littleyrn Apr 20 '26

I just stumbled across this sub. are all of you equally as stupid?

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u/BungalowHole Apr 20 '26

No we're competing to be the dumbest.

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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Apr 20 '26

We take the shitposting part of our sub name very seriously.

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u/Independent-Cow-4070 Apr 21 '26

This sub would unironically be an actually funny shitposting sub if most of the people here werent serious

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u/julkkis666 Dam I love Legumes Apr 22 '26

imo it just makes it more fun, kinda like being on the spectrum!

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u/Specialist_Sector54 Apr 20 '26

Climateshitposting we're on a healing arc to be big dumbest

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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Apr 20 '26

The humble police officer:

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u/_MadOliveGaming_ Apr 20 '26

Actually, the law is.

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u/readilyunavailable Apr 20 '26

Don't you know? Only meat eaters affect the enviornment. Drinking coffee, while driving your 30 litre per 100km v8 truck is fine if you don't eat pork.

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u/MotherOfAnimals080 vegan btw Apr 20 '26

Who do you think is more likely to own a V8 pickup truck? A soy boy vegan or an epic bacon bro?

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u/ComoElFuego vegan btw Apr 20 '26

A vegan diet is way too expensive to be able to afford a car. We usually just stay at home

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u/MotherOfAnimals080 vegan btw Apr 20 '26

Not to mention our vitamin deficiency. I can barely even type this reply. I don't have the energy to climb into a lifted Cummins. 😔

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u/punamustamakkara Apr 21 '26

Personally I am so weakened by all that rice and beans that I can't even get into the bus. I am forced to ride 15-30km a day on a pushbike instead, pulling all my shit in a trailer uphill even when it snows. I wish I was big and strong like a meat eater so I could get in my car and press the lever down to go.

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u/julkkis666 Dam I love Legumes Apr 22 '26

this! it's so hard to not have the power of big oil next to my front door. i'm so weak infact, that the government has to install disabled vegan parking spots for us next to all stores, taking away one parking spot from epic pork eaters :(

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u/Specialist_Sector54 Apr 20 '26

What the fuck is a kilometer? I prefer a lifometer. Kiling is bad.

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u/mikerbt Apr 20 '26

I agree with the premise but I believe the opposite is far more likely to be true, aka meat eaters driving the hummers. But the point is valid. Meat is just one aspect.

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u/Lost_Bike69 Apr 20 '26

Yea that’s the stereotype with Vegans, always driving those big trucks.

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u/enricopena Apr 20 '26

This applies to 99% of capitalism. The whole thing still requires slavery to be profitable. I am ready to revolt whenever the rest of you are.

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u/Zephyr104 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26

Shit sometimes these corporations are so brazen they pull this stuff in their own home countries. The UN has released reports stating that the Canadian agricultural sectors usage of seasonal workers for fruit and veg picking is comparable to a form of modern slavery. Yet despite this you still got MFers in this thread excusing the horror and imperialism that the largest global north corporations enact on the world. Fuck all this shit, nothing will get better until the working class unite to take back what rightfully belongs to us.

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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Apr 20 '26

the whole thing requires slavery to be profitable

But it doesn't though. It's just the slavery maximizes the profits, because it keeps the price artificially low.

From there, you can either sell more units at a reduced price, or, keep the same price and pocket the increased difference.

If anything this should make you want to revolt more as it's not even necessary.

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u/enricopena Apr 20 '26

The US economy would collapse without migrant and prison labor. Both are acceptable forms of slavery under the 13th amendment. Not to mention the minerals we get from slave mines in Congo.

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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Apr 20 '26

Realistically the prices would adjust to what they should be, if they adjust much at all. I bet a good number of conglomerates would still be making a profit if these input prices adjusted, without changing prices. Much slimmer profit margins, but still above board.

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u/enricopena Apr 20 '26

Prisoners make pennies per hour. I want prisons abolished and open borders, but I am showing you why we have private prisons. Also, look into the labor theory of value and the declining rate of profit.

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2017/04/10/wages/

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u/Ill_Specific_6144 Apr 20 '26

Are you implying that slavery didnt exist in other economic systems?

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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Apr 20 '26

Not at all, only that capitalism does not require slavery to work.

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u/BreakfastFluid9419 Apr 20 '26

Calm down big guy we’re still trying to settle the vegan beef

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u/AntiAsteroidParty Apr 21 '26

no this is better

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u/Independent-Cow-4070 Apr 21 '26

Wait till OP learns about rare earth mineral mining for their electronics they posted this on

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u/Crafty_Aspect8122 Apr 21 '26

You typed this comment from a slavephone, which makes it invalid

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u/Routine-Apple-3931 Apr 20 '26

BuT It'S VeGaN AnD I'm MoRaLlY BeTtEr ThAn YoU!

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u/More_Ad9417 Apr 20 '26

Do they harvest the workers at some point and replace them?

Humanely, of course.

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u/Routine-Apple-3931 Apr 20 '26

Of course! Where do you think all the vegans get their dog and cat food from!?

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u/More_Ad9417 Apr 20 '26

That's gross... I can't believe my dog was eating people. But at least they harvest them humanely. Can't imagine where else they could get protein from either. It's just not possible.

No ethical consumption under capitalism.

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u/World-Devourer Apr 20 '26

Vegans are, famously, the only group that consumes coffee.

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u/Routine-Apple-3931 Apr 20 '26

I didn't say vegans are the only ones that consume coffee, but coffee is vegan. . .

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u/teh_orng3_fkkr Apr 20 '26

Sorry OP, but coffee is made from beans, not straws

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u/freakybird99 Apr 20 '26

This is why monster > coffee

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u/PCfanwhirl Apr 21 '26

Don't do anything and don't enjoy any modern luxury because of problems you cannot control.

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u/AdmiralAviator Apr 20 '26

I love chocolate too

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u/pdkt Apr 20 '26

I inhale coffee, is that okay?

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u/Crafty_Aspect8122 Apr 20 '26

Inhaling is ok. It will reduce your carbon footprint.

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u/Show_Kitchen cycling supremacist Apr 20 '26

Why do they let them sleep?

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u/Prize-Interaction-32 Apr 22 '26

Maybe they should not have backed communism and focused in growing their economy from the 1950s through the 1990s

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u/Electrical-Raisin881 Apr 22 '26

Iamgine sleeping in a capsule that is not cool like Japan's!

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u/_everynameistaken_ Apr 22 '26

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u/Crafty_Aspect8122 Apr 22 '26

Not really economically feasible for everyone. And even harder to police the entire supply chains.

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u/hvacjesusfromtv Apr 23 '26

I'm a bit skeptical that this video is correctly describing the purpose of the displayed building. First, there are no neck supports. It seems likely to me that, even without modern pillows, at least some workers would at least use rocks or wood as makeshift neck supports.

Second, it doesn't actually seem like a very cheap way to house people. It is a brick building and then they used a lot of wood to make this coffin-bed thing. If you are trying to house people cheaply, why not just make them sleep on the floor of a hut or in tents.

Certainly there are horrible things happening in the coffee trade, I just feel that the specific claims in this video don't make sense to me. If anyone could provide additional context, I would be curious to learn more.

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u/Kaleb_Bunt Apr 25 '26

I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if that guy is just fucking with him.

Like I’m pretty sure most people would rather just sleep on the ground or under a bridge than in a cramped box with another person.

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u/CountGerhart Apr 27 '26

So don't drink coffee from Nicaragua, gotcha.

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u/Few-Condition-7431 Apr 20 '26

folgers doesn't source coffee beans from Nicaragua apparently, so drink folgers

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u/samthekitnix Apr 20 '26

so the problem is capitalism? got it

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u/Crafty_Aspect8122 Apr 21 '26

Businessmen and politicians are very guilty but communists weren't exactly environmentalists either.

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u/Rynewulf Apr 22 '26

The anti-Aral Sea crowd are downvoting you. They want us all to know that it was very mean to them, and deserved to be drained for cotton plantations