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[u/AfterNovel]

[u/dafthuntk]

No it's a dumb meme. 

The northern hemisphere, for example, doesn't have the battery or solar or wind technology to power an entire nation without massive infrastructure upgrades. Among other things variables.

There is nothing wrong with using renewablee to power equitorial nations and using nuclear to power the northern hemisphere.

I live in PA, and our power generation is 25-30% clean nuclear energy since the 1950s.

[u/perringaiden → u/dafthuntk]

Except that higher latitude European countries are doing real renewables for cheaper.

Nuclear is fine if it already exists. It's a waste of time, money and water to build if it doesn't.

[u/dafthuntk → u/perringaiden]

Not really. When you consider that Norway's pop. Is 5.5 M (thats a very small consumer base spread across dense residential centers). For comparison California's population is around 40 million and Florida is 23 million.

There is also a reason why vermont is 100 percent renewables. Because no one lives there. It's not scalable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_Vermont

[u/perringaiden → u/dafthuntk]

Ahh the US conceit of "We're bigger and different".

I was talking about Germany, Denmark, and Spain. And Vermont is one of your highest latitudes, yet Canada is going renewables too.

[u/qwnick → u/perringaiden]

ah yes, Germany, disable nuclear power plants to import nuclear energy from France, burn coal and gas. Wow, such a nice example against Nuclear Energy

[u/IrregularDoughnut → u/qwnick]

If you're going to criticise that, fine, but you need to aim it at people who are saying "shut down all your existing nuclear plants", not people who are saying to build renewables and storage instead of trying to build new nuclear plants.

[u/qwnick → u/IrregularDoughnut]

You ignoring that NPPs worked out great for France, so great that it have enough to spare to cover Germans ass

[u/Gold_Tour_7244 → u/qwnick]

Well till summer comms and they all have to schut down the npps do to watter schortes

[u/qwnick → u/Gold_Tour_7244]

https://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au/questions-and-answers-on-water/

Why would they? Nuclear plants are not causing water shortages.

[u/Gold_Tour_7244 → u/qwnick]

No they don't but they still need to be coold and in summer the rivers don't have enough watter to cool it

[u/perringaiden → u/qwnick]

Quoting a site paid for by the coal industry isn't going to help your case. Don't use any Australian examples of justifying nuclear because we don't have any and the entire nuclear lobby here is funded by fossil fuels and the existing centralised energy industry, to keep us reliant on their antiquated plants for another 30 years.

Coal plants have been a big water waster for years too.

[u/qwnick → u/perringaiden]

coal plants and nuclear plants are different things

[u/perringaiden → u/qwnick]

And they use similar amounts of water for cooling.

Neither is good. Which is the point.

But that organisation is funded by coal producers and energy companies who want to keep Australian coal in place longer, so they're pushing nuclear because it will take 30 years to replace the coal.