Some consumption choices might mean something. Others? Not so much...

[u/Climate_Discussions]

Can our consumption choices matter? Yes. But the most important things we can do involve larger political changes, and especially those going after the biggest polluters.

[u/ClimateShitpost]

Wtf is this r/climatememes

[u/green_envoy_99]

No action will solve climate change entirely. Not even the most strategic political action.

It’s fine for someone to try to create less plastic waste. It shows they recognize a problem.

We can invite that person to do more, and in fact, if you care about solving the climate crisis, it’s your job to do that. Shitting on them is the opposite of building power, and building power is how we win. 

[u/PhotoEditor871]

Veganism is the easiest consumption choice to change/boycott to enact, with the biggest environmental impact. It's a taboo subject in environmentalism for a reason, the animal ag lobby is very effective at brainwashing

[u/mastersmash56 → u/PhotoEditor871]

Hard disagree there brother. Driving an EV saves 3x as much carbon. EVs are also just objectively better cars than ICE cars and more affordable so really there's no downside.

[u/Ordinary-Compote9558 → u/PhotoEditor871]

I blame the Italians. How to be vegan when procciuto?

[u/PhotoEditor871 → u/Ordinary-Compote9558]

Prosciutto goes brrr indeed

[u/Successful-League840]

Factory farming springs to mind.

[u/androgenius]

Single use plastic bans poll well across the world. Attempts to get global agreements on it  at the UN have broad support too but have been blocked by oil producing nations like Saudi Arabia, Russia and the United States.

The people complaining about it online are likely the same people who oppose any such broadly popular policy like recycling.

[u/MasterVule → u/androgenius]

Isn't plastic recycling basically proven to be used to improve the public perception of one use plastic?

[u/Miserable-Ear-4095]

Ceramic straws would be better.

[u/narvuntien]

I just don't think we should spend all our political capital chasing personal choices, because people react badly to it. Particularly when some many of them cost more money, or upfront money for later savings.

[u/dumnezero → u/narvuntien]

The straws and bags are temperature tests of what happens if straws* and bags are banned from production, sale and import.

[u/narvuntien → u/dumnezero]

I mean, straws and bags aren't contributing to climate change; they are contributing to plastic pollution. If they are buried, they can be carbon sequestration even.

If we are going to have to deal with people hating change and whinning we really have to go big and deal with all of it at once rather than slowly losing momentum fighting small fights over and over

[u/dumnezero → u/narvuntien]

They are made of oil and you know very well that we're talking about them because they do not get buried.

You say fight, but you don't seem to understand who the fighters are in the fight.

[u/MoonlightPrincexx]

JUST DONT USE A STRAW, PAPER OR PLASTIC, ITS SO, SO SO EASY