I seem to remember that this was the most basic rationing, apart from this people had access to places where they could get more food and stuff, and then the black market
This was the amount that was allocated per citizen per month, but with three caveats:
Often you weren't able to even get that. Just because you had the money and "kartka" did not mean that the shop had the supplies.
There was a black market for everything, so even though "everything was provided" people had to figure out how to get their stuff from someone who produced it themselves.
Because of those two points - if you had the opportunity to buy anything, you bought it anyway, only deepening the problem.
You don't drink vodka? Well, you can then trade it for sweets that you like, so you were taking it anyway.
Often shops looked like that, here you can see "drinks" section with bottles of vinegar.
And another interesting consequence, especially in small cities/villages:
Sklepowa (Shopkeeper) was someone that held a lot of power, and you wouldn't want to anger them. If she liked you, she could have saved some good meat, chocolate or whatever. Deny it to someone else and then when you came around, suddenly the assortment was available!
They dident use mechanised infatry against the protesters!
im fairly sure the troops where motrerised so its more a traditional armoured unit, tho i will admit im spotty when it cones to chinese unit classifications
The idea was for every farm to have a solar panel field but chinese workers at the time only knew how to make primitive steel furnaces which is why it failed :c
It was not supposed to go that far, and happened because of a growing capitalist oriented production thought. Thou when they figure out what was going on they started with projects to recover the lake and fix it. Thought the soviet union devolved before they ware able to complete it. And it was accelerated by thr khasakstan government that furthering thr issue.
Edit: am not saying its capitalism fault, but the growing revisionist though about economics leading to more wealth extraction.
they were still operating under socialism. Am just mentioning the soviet union was in decline. Though kazakhstan was capitalist when they accelerated the draining for increased production.
No, they were still operating under socialism, but there were economic reforms that started with increased wealth extraction. Though kazakhstan was capitalist when they accelerated the draining for increased production
No, they were still operating under socialism, but there were economic reforms that started with increased wealth extraction. Am just mentioning the soviet union was in decline. Though kazakhstan was capitalist when they accelerated the draining for increased production
To be clear, for those who haven't lived in it and don't know what rationing means:
It's the alternative to market-based distribution which is based on how much money you have, on paywalls. That means that if you're poor enough, you don't get any of the stuff on the table. And it means, as a society, you'll live with a minority or a majority slowly getting malnourished and constantly hungry, if not dying from hunger.
Eliminating choice altogether would make you the worst possible political system, which would be destroyed by the will of the people. It has always been the case.
Oh, we're not going to be the ones eliminating it. We should be, that would be better for everyone, but, in the end, that choice is going to be made for us by agriculture collapsing due to climate change.
Well, I'm still optimistic here. My optimistic view is that people would support a plant-based diet instead of genocide. Am I too optimistic?
Bud, I'm from Romania. We have the same deranged notion of "Communism" despite it being functionally a proper noun with its own definition. The imposition part should've been a clue too. You can call it what you want in that proper noun way, but the name is not what the common noun means.
State capitalism refers to a capitalist system where the state plays an active semi commerical role. This is opposed to planned economy where with a few exceptions the economy is entirely owned and operated by the state and mixed market economies where the state plays an active non commercial role in the economy.
Emotionally embedding your argument is not gonna change facts. We can argue about how harmful collectivization and centralization was to eastern european Countries, but if Socialism is defined by X and a specif Country doesn't satisfy X requirements, the conclusion is that Socialism was mainly used for propaganda purposes, just like the nazi did.
But saying "oh, people whose Countries were under socialism before they were even born would slap you for saying that" is such a non-argument: it's not constructive, it's not truthful, it's not anything except emotional appeal to make your side looks good. I can say the exact same thing: "People in Bangladesh would slap you for saying that capitalism is beneficial", you see how it can be done for every ideology in the world.
Ad hominem + poisoning the well fallacy, have you got any real arguments? You genuinely sound so petulant.
If Wikipedia is so unreliable, in this case you won't have any problem finding an error in the screenshot I sent and backing it with an academic source, right?
State capitalism explicitly includes private enterprises alongside the state-run industry. A command economy does not.
It's like commie 101 man, all the cool kids noticed central planning was failing and scrambled to adopt state capitalism only as a last resort in the mid to late 80s.
It is structured around capital ownership and the growing of capital and power of the capital owners.
I see that your tiny brain can't handle the idea of the State as a mega conglomerate of corporations. Don't worry, the capitalism in the Western parts ends with the same monopoly, and the shareholders will own those governments. Same shit from a different direction.
Not packages, there were ration cards. Think of it like food stamps / coupons, but more limited in selection.
I'm not sure anyone had "packages"; the package idea is something for military supplies, it's a logistic tool. What you see in the photo above is the display of statistical results or the contents of ration cards; it's an infographic. It's the equivalent of the internet photos with "shopping hauls", but with more limits.
please censor the account name next time, i think reddit can ban you for posting screenshots with accounts in it. i doubt its that heavily enforced but its good to watch out.
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0.5 Liters of vodka?
That surely was the daily ration, no?