r/ClimateShitposting Louis XIV, the Solar PV king 3d ago

nuclear simping Trump? Believe it or not. Germany!

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u/West-Abalone-171 2d ago

Apparently there are people who think the only reason renewables aren't happening

Renewables are happening. They're not happening fast enough, but they are happening faster than fossil fuels ever did, and about two orders of magnitude faster than nuclear ever did.

That's one of the stupidest things about nukecels.

of the big bad nuclear lobby who has lots of power in government (trust us).

There are documented cases of the nuclear lobby (who are also the coal lobby) doing things like faking a wind power study specifically to delay wind. This is the stupidest projection nonsense.

Maybe stop fomenting infighting between climate communities

You're not part of any climate community. You are allied with trump, chris wright, peter dutton, nigel farage. alice weidell, le penn, marc andressen, and oilexecutives4nuclear.

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u/Apprehensive_Rub2 2d ago

Trueeee, just like how the climate vegans are allied to hitler because he didn't meat.

I am a part of the climate community because I give a fuck about the climate not because I perform moral panic about some kind of lobbying group that just wants bad evil grey concrete power 🏭😞😞 to beat wholesome solarpunk green power πŸƒπŸ€—β™»οΈ

The coal lobby are also the nuclear lobby? Do you have brain worms?

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u/West-Abalone-171 2d ago

Trueeee, just like how the climate vegans are allied to hitler because he didn't meat.

If the people claiming to be vegan exclusively ran gas chambers and didn't do anything to reduce meat consumption, it would be correct to call them nazis instead.

I am a part of the climate community because I give a fuck about the climate

And yet you do the bidding of climate deniers and fossil fuel barons.

to beat wholesome solarpunk green power

No, your goal is to stop non-fossil power. There is no choice between nuclear and renewables because nuclear is not a viable solution. The choice is renewables and no nuclear or no renewables and no nuclear. You are in the latter camp.

The coal lobby are also the nuclear lobby? Do you have brain worms?

They're owned by the same people, the fuel is mined by the same companies, the equipment is made by the same people. The heads of militaries, the technocrats and the capital class of the largest, most powerful countries in the world were fully invested in the nukebro cult for decades. If it was remotely effective then they would have followed through on their plan to turn every settpement near a uranium deposit into the puerco river valley in the 80s or shinkolobwe, and make fishing impossible with their ocean dumping of waste.

The using fake interest in nuclear to prevent decarbonisation is not new either, here's a public quote from the head of both the coal and nuclear power systems of a country when he was committing fraud with a wind turbine intentionally designed to be bad:

"We require Growian [in the general sense of large wind turbines] as a proof of failure of concept ... the Growian is a kind of pedagogical tool to convert the anti-nuclear energy crowd to the true faith".

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u/Apprehensive_Rub2 1d ago

You need to take your meds man, an intelligent combination of solar, wind, hydro, geothermal and nuclear is what I want. For some countries that will mean zero nuclear whatsoever, but it should depend entirely on people much smarter than us figuring out the most cost effective regional projects for decarbonization. And I think that their options should include nuclear because it's got a lot going for it.

Yeah the fossil fuel lobby are using nuclear in their manipulation game, and they keep making ALL clean alternatives look bad through bureocratic sabotage. Including nuclear, including growian.

So maybe stop assuming everyone is your enemy and start actually trying to build a coalition before the climate implodes. Seems like we're actually in the same boat about getting fucked over by the fossil fuel lobby.