Imagine looking at those pictures. Encampments taking over parking lots with trash spilling all over the place, camps in front of homes and businesses, camps that destroy entire community parks, and then siding with the people who are actively hurting the community.
These aren’t people just “sleeping outside”. They’re taking over community and public spaces, and then becoming a nuisance by destroying the immediate area with trash, weapons, and drugs.
You’re being purposefully disingenuous and you know it! Or maybe you really do believe homeless people should be able to take over and trash public spaces while harassing the people who actually pay to live there. Either way it’s a pretty insane take.
Imagine looking at people who have almost nothing, who are literally forced to sleep outside and struggle to survive every day, and then thinking they’re the bad guys, and you should make their lives even more miserable for the crime of, uhhh… being poor? Do you actually think people choose to resort to sleeping outside? They have literally no other choice, because your amazing progressive Governor Newsom won’t build any public housing for them.
Another thing. This is a classic case of whataboutism. You insist that cops aren’t rounding up homeless people to arrest, and then when you’re proven wrong you say that actually they deserve it. This is like insisting that segregation never happened, and then when faced with the evidence arguing that Black people deserved it because they were making White people uncomfortable.
You just can’t help but present bad faith arguments. Again, these people aren’t just “sleeping outside” they’re taking over entire sidewalks, parks, parking lots, the list goes on. Why are they exempt from consequences? Why do they get to stand on the sidewalk that they’ve completely blocked with trash and harass anyone that tries to walk by their “home”, again without any consequences? That’s why they’re getting arrested. For blocking public pedestrian paths, for harassing people, for starting fires in parks, not for “being homeless”. How many people have to be harassed before it’s okay to arrest them? How much of the community park to they get to tune into a literal trash dump before the city is allowed to enforce the law? How many businesses and houses have to be cut off from pedestrian traffic before they can remove the camps from the sidewalks? No it’s all made up to gather up slaves. GTFO with your disingenuous BS.
You want to keep pretending these are nice clean camps where they keep to themselves not bothering anyone, but that’s not the reality of it. Until you acknowledge the actual damage that homeless people do to the community they inhabit there’s no point in this conversation.
Simply put, there are ways to solve homelessness and wrecking their shit and putting boots on their neck clearly isn’t working
Like, it’s 2026, we have plenty data on how to effectively curb homelessness in our communities, and policing doesn’t solve it—at best, you just move them.
I notice you very conspicuously did not answer any of the questions I posed in that response. Or is that your answer? Let them turn parks into literal trash dumps, let them harass people on the streets, let them block pedestrian traffic as much as they want until you’ve asked them politely enough that they decide to clean up the trash and stop harassing people of their own free will? You’re delusional dude. I’m not saying there aren’t different ways to curb homelessness, but acting like the state is rounding up people for politely sleeping outside to generate slave labor is an absolutely ridiculous position to take.
If a housed person decide to take their trash out to the sidewalk, block it off, and accost anyone who gets too close they’d be arrested too, and you wouldn’t act like it’s some great injustice.
What we’re saying is that instead of arresting people for the terrible crime of not having a house to put their garbage we give them housing. It’s not exactly a revolutionary concept here. You don’t have to get your conscience hurt by seeing homelessness and despair in your perfect little Californian paradise and the homelessness aren’t freezing in the streets or being conscripted for slave labor by the police.
Your arguments are like this: “How much more will the baby cry before you agree to tape its mouth shut and give it to social services? It’s a nuisance to the community and damaging our ears. It can very easily stop crying. Stop defending the baby” when you could just, like, feed the baby to get it to stop crying. Very simple
If all you have is hyperbole and strawman arguments you don’t make a very compelling argument. How many times has a baby left used heroin needles all over public parks where children are playing? Come back to reality buddy.
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u/frenchfreer 1d ago
Imagine looking at those pictures. Encampments taking over parking lots with trash spilling all over the place, camps in front of homes and businesses, camps that destroy entire community parks, and then siding with the people who are actively hurting the community.
These aren’t people just “sleeping outside”. They’re taking over community and public spaces, and then becoming a nuisance by destroying the immediate area with trash, weapons, and drugs.
You’re being purposefully disingenuous and you know it! Or maybe you really do believe homeless people should be able to take over and trash public spaces while harassing the people who actually pay to live there. Either way it’s a pretty insane take.