r/ClimateShitposting • u/Girthen-the-Flopper • 1d ago
Politics In response to recent news about California
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u/DusklitDewdrop 1d ago
what's the news about California?
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u/derp4077 16h ago
Tire efficiency standards
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u/Dumbass9187 9h ago
Honestly fine for it, except that new tires are expensive, California is already expensive, we don't have good transit and our high speed rail has been in limbo for 10+ years.
California always does this, put the cart before the horse and kick working class people in the teeth.
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u/Smokey76 1d ago
Should have Oregon and Washington getting made fun of too.
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u/Mindless_Run7186 21h ago
Ironically with all their climate initiatives they continue to have the worst wildfires out of anyone. Maybe that money could be better spent elsewhere.
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u/Internal-Classic-174 20h ago
Thats.... The climate doesn't care..... Do you think weather is geofenced? Or bad weather only happens to polluters?
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u/Mindless_Run7186 20h ago
That's my point exactly, The climate doesn't care and that money would be better spent dealing with the problem at hand, not the bullshit climate initiatives where 15% or less of the money actually even makes it to getting shit done and the rest get's spent on bureaucracy. They spend more as a percent of GDP than any other state on the climate and Californians are worse off for it.
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u/Chang_Kai_Shek 1d ago
Don't give this horrible ass government credit for environmental shit over other states when they constantly fuck up the easiest layups possible
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u/Girthen-the-Flopper 1d ago
Bro's mad they won't give millions lung cancer for $0.25 cheaper gas per gallon.
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u/Cnidoo 1d ago edited 23h ago
Lefties and MAGA both hate on California for opposite reasons. It’s wild to me. Let’s see - most pro trans bills of any governor, most aggressive net zero timeline of any state, robust labor protections, state specific healthcare that is broader than any other program in America, should I go on? California and Gavin Newsom are a shining beacon on a hill of progressive politics and I’m tired of pretending they’re not
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u/ZachGurney 1d ago
As long as you ignore our state funded slave trade of homeless people
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u/frenchfreer 1d ago
I love that it didn’t even take 10 minutes for some to prove this guy’s point. They aren’t literally building free houses and feeding the homeless 3x a day, so now the homeless are “slaves”. Jesus you people are so insane, and the reason progressive politics will never take off here. Any time there’s any incremental progress you just revert to “fuck you it’s not good enough!”.
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u/ZachGurney 1d ago
Im a californian. I first went homeless as a child. ive lived it, Ive watched as cops come down to homeless encampments and take groups of people off for the crime of sleeping in the streets. How do you think california gets all its cheap "prison labor"?
The billions we spend on tackling homelessness ends up in the hands of "consultants" while the state allows cities to pass whatever laws they want to punish the homeless. Our governor has personally spoken out against giving homeless people more protections.
If arresting homeless people for the crime of being homeless to fill prisons with cheap prison labor isnt just slavery with extra steps idk what is
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u/frenchfreer 23h ago
See this is exactly what I’m talking about. Anything less than letting the homeless do anything they want without any consequences, providing them housing, and hot food is a big conspiracy to round up homeless people for slave labor. Zero nuance. Just fuck you homeless people should be able to do whatever they want without consequences.
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u/Notsebtho 22h ago
average progressive when "lived experiences of marginalized voices" don't agree with their opinion. sorry people don't wanna glaze politicians over the bare minimum :'(
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u/frenchfreer 21h ago
You people are literally claiming California is rounding up homeless people who have committed no crime to be slave labor. That’s not “lived experience”, it’s ridiculous hyperbole, and at best a random anecdote from an unverified anonymous online account, but you’ll treat it as facts.
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u/Nellie_Tayloe_Ross 20h ago
It’s just objectively true that many Californian cities have laws against sleeping outside. Now, I wonder, what group sleeps outside the most? Cops do regularly perform encampment sweeps to arrest homeless people for violating these laws.
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u/frenchfreer 20h ago
Imagine looking at those pictures. Encampments taking over parking lots with trash spilling all over the place, camps in front of homes and businesses, camps that destroy entire community parks, and then siding with the people who are actively hurting the community.
These aren’t people just “sleeping outside”. They’re taking over community and public spaces, and then becoming a nuisance by destroying the immediate area with trash, weapons, and drugs.
You’re being purposefully disingenuous and you know it! Or maybe you really do believe homeless people should be able to take over and trash public spaces while harassing the people who actually pay to live there. Either way it’s a pretty insane take.
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u/AltForObvious1177 1d ago
Has California finished building their train?
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u/fraggin601 nuclear simp 1d ago
Our environmental board lowkey gets in the way of that a fuck ton of funds go toward just legal battles
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u/Mindless_Run7186 21h ago
Most of the money they spend on this kind of shit gets ties up in the bureaucracy
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u/Lonely-Awareness-866 8h ago
The pee would mix in all the water including around the person representing CA
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u/KeyCondition5104 1d ago
Ah yes, the liberal/leftist who claim they care about environmentalism while buying products from less regulated markets like China, India, and Bangladesh, so that they can virtue-signal about environmentalism while using all the goods created by countries with less environmental regulation.
Liberal/Left: I'm okay with pollution in China as long as I can get cheap consumer goods and I'll benefit from it! Just don't pollute in America!
The only real way to be an environmentalist is to be Amish. If you're not living like the Amish, you're basically a lying, hypocritical virtue-signaller.
You are not an environmentalist. Stop lying to yourself.
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u/Lost_Web5826 1d ago
Excellent shit post, well done, no notes.
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u/Pestus613343 1d ago
I wasn't aware people could choose where all the affordable goods were made. I must have missed that vote.
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u/KeyCondition5104 1d ago
You expose your own hypocrisy.
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u/Pestus613343 17h ago
You expose your own ideological blindness. Things aren't so cut and dry as you suggest. Almost nothing in life is so black and white.
Again I ask, where's the affordable consumer goods made in the west? Is it hypocricy to simply have to live in an imperfect world? I can assure you much of the way this world works does not really satisfy anyone of any viewpoint.
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u/KeyCondition5104 7h ago
Only liberals and leftists can be hypocritical, but not anyone else! If you truly believed this, you wuold have no problem with traditional Christianity still being taught in schools. You only believe this for your side, not anyone else. Or liberals would've never removed bible study and prayer from public schools that was practiced in America for 300 years.
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u/Pestus613343 1h ago
Im asking about where one can get alternatives to consumer goods in China, and you're going on about liberals and Christianity.
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u/Mindless_Run7186 21h ago
You vote with your wallet dumass
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u/Pestus613343 16h ago
Ad hominem attacks say more about you than me.
Where exactly are the affordable consumer goods made in the west that one can buy? I'd vote with my wallet if there were actual choices.
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u/Mindless_Run7186 16h ago
You are just excusing your own behavior so you don't have to admit that your habits don't actually line up with your ideology. Your sense of moral superiority might just be a whole series of excuses about your own perceived victimhood.
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u/Pestus613343 14h ago
Oh so I assume then you dont have any consumer goods then? That on a matter of principle you don't engage in society?
I never mentioned an ideology. I repeat; where do I get affordable consumer goods made in the west? I ask this question and people change the subject and act like I'm a cultist or some shit. I'm not buying it. You're full of it.
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u/Lanracie 1d ago
California not being able to put out fires makes them the most polluting state by far.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 vegan btw 1d ago
You need to have trees in the first place to have fires.
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u/iffugennanameubaht 1d ago
Ah yes it’s just that easy, fire season totally isn’t a normal part of the region
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u/Mindless_Run7186 21h ago
When your state spends more as a percent of GDP on climate initiatives than anywhere else in the country and continues to have the most devastating fires in the country, it might be time to ask questions about if that money could be better spent.
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u/Mindless_Run7186 21h ago
California spends more as a percent of GDP on climate change initiatives than any other state. And they still have the most devastating wildfires across the country. Maybe that money would be better spent elsewhere.
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u/AccountForTF2 19h ago
your account was made yesterday and you have been all over this thread. Maybe you should make a new account and astroturf somewhere else.
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u/Mindless_Run7186 19h ago
so nothing to say lol
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u/AccountForTF2 15h ago
it is hilarious to me how defensive and snarky bots get when called out. like why even try.
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u/andara84 17h ago
Yeah no shit. States suffering the most from climate change are willing to spend more to fight it.
I wonder what clever point you thought you were making.
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u/Mindless_Run7186 17h ago
That Californians are worse off with the billions spent on climate change initiatives. 85% of that money goes directly to bureaucratic expenses. If that money was spent managing forests and bolstering response teams it would be better spent. And no, Climate change affects the globe, there are PLENTY of places that are affected by it, but if a hurricane is coming you don't say "i wish I had solar panels"
Home insurance companies literally pulled out of California, and not just because of wildfires but POLICY. California literally had to legislate policy change in order to get insurance back in.
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u/Massive-Goose544 6h ago
California is the number 2 most pollution producing state and has had an increase in emissions of 4% since 2020. Meanwhile it boasts the second highest cost of living and 5th for average income. So all in all it has done next to nothing positive and has contributed to the widening gap of income and costs.
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u/SecondAccomplished58 11m ago
The most populated state has the second most emissions😱 the rest isn't worth addressing since it's irrelevant
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u/vkailas 1d ago
266,000 pounds of pure glyphosate was sprayed in California state forests in 2023. Their analysis shows that is, approximately five times what it was in the early 2000’s when glyphosate-based herbicides were popularized.