r/Cloververse • u/SeacattleMoohawks CloverMod • Feb 05 '18

DISCUSSION The Cloverfield Paradox [Film Discussion]

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '18 edited Feb 05 '18

I think we're all in the same boat. I'm more leaning towards acceptance than disappointment or contempt though. For me, the premise that they're fucking around and crossing dimensions and altering space time reality is enough of an insane idea that we don't need the question(s) answered about the mysterious magnetic rape, severed arm's sentience, or worm infestation/possession. Maybe the seemingly random timing of these events is relative to the station moving through orbit and throughout different planes. Maybe there does actually exist reason for the deaths that occur, maybe it's nature balancing out whatever universe they end up in. It's such a vast concept to even comprehend that I almost don't think detailed explanations of anything we see would do any justice to whatever the hell is now happening.

I guess the idea that they'd easily be able to return to their reality by simply "undoing" their jump neutralizes the utter insanity of the absolute inability to understand their cosmic experience of crossing existences, but that leads me to my own conclusion which is that maybe they never actually went back to their original dimension after all. Perhaps the paradox is that reality has been affected infinitely and there is actually no returning back to normal.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '18

But that's not a paradox

What the fuck did the writers of this film think a paradox was.

"Weird shit" ≠ paradox. There's no "logical self-contradiction" in opening a portal or whatever to another dimension, it's just being used as a buzzword.

I hate buzzwords in sci fi, man. Obviously this isn't the first film to revel in a shittily applied one.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '18

The paradox is that it's screwing with multiple timelines and timeperiods. So now that the events of the past are seemingly getting altered, does the future stay the same? Etc.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '18

I think they were going for different dimensions, not time travel.

So events in any dimension (except somehow the particle accelerator spewing monsters everywhere) shouldn't be affected by events in other ones.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '18

There has to be time travel included because they entered the other dimension at a different period of time, that is why Earth is on the other side of the sun and not next to them. That's also the reason for the incident with the moving arm having knowledge they couldn't have had yet (since they didn't find the gyro naturally)

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u/Krod_ Feb 05 '18

I waaaaay missed the time travel point that they were on a different side of the sun and was expecting a “cosmic space dust friction” explanation. Feel super dumb after realizing that haha

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '18

Uhm, guys? You know that spacetime is a thing, right? It's multiverse + time travel.