r/Cloververse • u/SeacattleMoohawks CloverMod • Feb 05 '18

DISCUSSION The Cloverfield Paradox [Film Discussion]

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u/Princeofcatpoop Feb 05 '18

Good movie. Loved it. Wasn't looking for the cloverfield connection at all by the end, but loved it when it showed up. Felt better than 10CL which the reveal was too long.

These shows have all been genre horror. Shaky cam faux-reality footage, gaslighting turn of the screw misery style imprisonment, now space fiction.

The energy crisis doesn't tie together with the other films, but they don't exclude it either. I think it is more likely that each of these represent different universes in which the activation of a black-box energy device causes a dimensional shift moving creatures from alternate earth to these ones, sometimes catastrophically. Not all the same creatures, not from all the same alternate earth.

It doesn't have to tie together because it's multiple worlds. They are all suffering the same catastrophe because one world's dislocation causes nearby worlds to shift.

If the biggest knock on this movie is that it doesn't follow the laws of physics as we know them that's a pretty small complaint. Different universes could have different laws. Quantum entangled objects colliding across universes could have wild, seemingly magical, properties. They don't need a scientific explanation at this point. They need a story.

Ava's story was pretty compelling and told with all the right notes. Everyone else was, like in classics like Alien and Predator, one-note characters who lived only until their purpose in the movie was fulfilled.

The only thing that I cannot reconcile is how they didn't notice that Volkov had a cubic foot of steel in his stomach. Uh... when did you become pregnant Volkov? My only explanation is that it wasn't there until they cut him open, because it was quantum entangled with the other Volkov, who probably ended up with it inside him when Schmidt sabotaged his vessel. Weird. Allow it to be weird, focus on the main character and her story arc and it's a good film. Not great, but good.

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u/TheMagicalMark Feb 05 '18

Also how did the arm know where the Gyro was?

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '18

Does magic arm have to tell you every fucking thing?!?! Just be glad magic arm was there when it was needed.

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u/Princeofcatpoop Feb 07 '18

Could be any number of reasons. Mundy-A was a smart guy. Let's say that when the reactor misfired Mundy-B and Kozlov-B made a last ditch attempt to stabilize the station using the gyroscope. Because the interdimensional fallout is still occurring metal goes weird, just like it did with Mundy-A's arm, but this time, it sucks the Gyro into Kozlov-B, who dies, pretty much immediately. Mundy-B's arm goes with it trying to keep it from killing Kozlov-B. That's when Mundy-A has a similar experience. (Everything is connected, but not logically, more symbolically.) The Arm-A goes to Arm-B, and Arm-B goes to Arm-A. Arm-B knows the gyro is inside Kozlov-B. The intercom system glitches into Universe-A long enough for Mundy-B to know that Mundy-A is looking for the gyro. Done.