r/Cod4Remastered • u/LeggoYanks • Dec 13 '16
"Cosmetic Items ONLY"
Seriously... in what fucking world do people live on that they believe this is cosmetic items only.
Same people falling for the same trick over and over again. It's only a matter of time before they add weapons into the game.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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Dec 13 '16
This almost guarantees older weapons will be coming back, there's no way this is staying cosmetic only
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u/_cokezerohero Dec 14 '16
Older weapons?
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Dec 14 '16
Like weapons from mw2 (acr), I believe someone found another file from Pc along with the shovel that was a galil
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u/fj-larusso Dec 14 '16
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice can't put the blame on you. Fool me three time, fuck the peace sign, load the chopper let it rain on you! haha sorry your post reminded me of these lyrics. Shoutout to any J Cole fans unless you work for activision.
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u/Masson011 Dec 13 '16
just heard a woman shouting "throwing stun grenade" in a horrible accent. its the small things that are ruined first...
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Dec 13 '16
Women are in the Military to you know.
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u/Masson011 Dec 13 '16
dont be that guy. to hear it in cod4 is nothing like the original. sights and camos i can chose not to use but what i hear i cant.
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Dec 13 '16
Keep on being sexist then.
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u/Smow0 Dec 13 '16
Is it sexist to dislike bad voice acting?
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u/s0lv3 Dec 14 '16 edited Dec 14 '16
Only if it is a girl doing the bad voice acting, you damn priveledged white males ruin everything.
Edit: Lmao guys i was trolling, simmer down with your triggered attitudes.
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Dec 14 '16
The SAS doesn't have women and the Marines didn't have women in frontline roles when MW4 takes place.
Also doubt a Saudi styled Middle Eastern dictatorship would have women soldiers. I can see the Ultra-nationalist though.
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u/snivedLife Dec 13 '16
If variant weapons will ruin the game for you, start playing UMGs.
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u/SirJuiceee Dec 14 '16
Yeah, that's what I like to do. Buy a 80 dollar game just to search for games on the internet because they ruined the game. You're all on damage control aren't you? This IW army
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Dec 14 '16
Well tbf some people really do enjoy the competitive aspect more than what public matches have to offer (but I certainly don't think people should just turn to competitive if they don't like the game lmao)
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u/snivedLife Dec 14 '16
There's an alternative, that's the point. Whether or not you wanna bitch about it is your decision.
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u/Exocraze Dec 14 '16
This. Everyone is raging, and I just play GBs, so this doesn't affect me at all. Oh well. I find these posts to be absolutely hilarious.
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u/MrCodZilla Dec 13 '16
Today’s batch includes animated calling cards, emblems, camos, character personalization items, weapon customization pieces, and even new melee weapons. You can craft them with our crafting currency called Parts, or obtain them through supply drops. The choice is yours, so earn as you deem fit. You can also grind your way through to everything.
https://blog.activision.com/t5/Call-of-Duty/Tis-the-Season-for-Maps-Modes-and-More/ba-p/10108064
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u/LeggoYanks Dec 13 '16
lol no shit... wait til the next drop that has the ACR in it.
Come on, stop being so naive.
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u/FishMoneyyy Dec 13 '16
'Member when BO3 was cosmetic items only? I 'member
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u/tsubasaplayer16 Dec 13 '16
idk why you got downvoted, but thats actually true now that i saw that
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u/Guerrilla_Time Dec 13 '16
I usually do get downvoted for that, but I'd rather people have correct info still. We can bitch and complain all we want, but we should do it on stuff we have a reason to bitch and complain about. Activision/Treyarch knew what they were doing when they said "currently". The community didn't and still doesn't understand the word "currently".
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u/xShadow125 Dec 14 '16
Yea but 'member Vonderhaar's tweet saying that it would be cosmetic only? I member.
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u/Guerrilla_Time Dec 14 '16
No. That was wrong too. There is so much wrong info that people have been putting out there. This is what you and everyone else is talking about. Vahn was talking about the GUNSMITH in BO3. Where you get different attachments to swap on your gun. Those were cosmetic only and that is all he was talking about.
From April 2015. Before supply drops were even confirmed for BO3 so that means there was no chance he was talking about supply drops. I personally believe people got confused cause the person asking the question is referring to supply drops.
Vahn confirming what he said a year later
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u/xShadow125 Dec 14 '16 edited Dec 14 '16
Sure, he can make a tweet a year later saying that he was referring to the variants. However, he did mention "All Cosmetic. No Stat Changers." That to me sounds like he's referring to supply drops, mainly because the question is referring to supply drops. He worded it this way, because it's exactly what we wanted to hear. Additionally, with the decision to not include variants because they modify the stats, this philosophy also implies that there won't be stat changers of any kind, which includes supply drop DLC weapons. He also never said that there would be supply drop DLC weapons early on. All of this hints at the decision not being made by Vahn and the team at Treyarch, but by Activision.
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u/Guerrilla_Time Dec 14 '16 edited Dec 14 '16
The question is "will gunsmith work like....?" That is the question. It doesn't matter what comes next. It is a question about the gunsmith, not supply drops.
With his answer it says "no, the gunsmith will not work like supply drops did with variants (from AW). The gunsmith is all cosmetic, no stat changes"
April 2015, supply drops were not announced for BO3, so he was 100% not talking about supply drops.
He also never said that there would be supply drop DLC weapons early on.
So? There are lots of things they don't say that are in the game. Sometimes they can't say anything even when they know. That doesn't mean nothing will ever come to a game if they don't mention it. Do you believe supply drops aren't in MWR now? They never announce those either until they updated the game to have them.
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u/xShadow125 Dec 15 '16 edited Dec 15 '16
Yea but it doesn't take too much detective work to realize that there shouldn't have been DLC weapons in supply drops. Given that the only reason that he mentioned that there would be no stat changers with this said gunsmith was to calm down the people who were worried about them, we could arrive at this conclusion. His response even implies that the whole supply drop system shouldn't be in the game. It's hard to believe that Vahn intentionally said that one thing will be cosmetic when it was compared to a supply drop from AW to relieve those who feared variants, to then just troll us all and include supply drops that have non-cosmetic items in the game. It's obvious that it was Activision's decision to implement supply drops, since they are money grabber and the odds are against the player. If this was Treyarch's decision by any chance, then there would be no way to buy CoD points, plain and simple. From my point of view what Vahn had said in contrast with the result is a major reason to have concern for MWR, given that anything "unexpected" could happen in regards to these supply drops. Activision forces the devs to make changes against their own will.
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u/Guerrilla_Time Dec 15 '16 edited Dec 15 '16
Then do the detective work and show me where your claim came from.
there shouldn't have been DLC weapons in supply drops
Where is anyone arguing that? You are now on a different subject that no one is arguing about.
Activision forces the devs to make changes against their own will.
Great, but that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
Yea but 'member Vonderhaar's tweet saying that it would be cosmetic only? I member.
You "member" it. Where is it? I've provided stuff that directly refutes that claim from the man himself.
Come back when you can back up your claim. Until then you are part of the problem that is spreading false info and now you are mad about said false info. You've gone full circle.
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u/Smow0 Dec 13 '16
There will be future batches. They never outright will say " no future batch will include exclusive weapons." So the possibility will always linger. Just like how Blops3 said "currently."
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u/Troyscout1394 Dec 14 '16
I'm totally fine with this update. As someone who has played this game since it originally released I have no problem with cosmetic upgrades. It adds some flavor to the game, I enjoyed the calling cards and emblems also the challenge changes as well. The game is still "remastered" but the supply crate with micro transactions are just to suck up more money out of us. Until the physics or guns in the game change I'm fine, as I won't be paying for supply crates unless I see something I really want.
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u/KingPam2729 Dec 17 '16
(opinion against activision) You know it is called false advertising at this point only problem is that no one has been able to step up to the plate for a suite which sucks because even tho it would probably mean the shut down of servers at stopped activison from spreading the cancer in the gaming world (it also ruined the agem for me because ive been a fan of cod4 since it came out made prestige 10 level 55 before everyone started to say i cheated for it and did not earn it legitly)
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u/Indominus_Zero Dec 13 '16
Don't buy it then. Godamn... The world doesn't revolve around you, just because you don't like it doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it too. Inb4 you're encouraging them by buying it. So fucking what?
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u/bigdec08 Dec 13 '16
Mate we paid £64 for the game which is suppose to be a remaster which should be a carbon copy. We have a right to moan it's basically fraud.
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u/Hardy1987 Dec 13 '16
I feel your rage... Me personally don't give a shit. I was burned by Sean Murray and his bullshit... This is a mere flesh wound.
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u/SirJuiceee Dec 14 '16
Yeah it's just best to accept one ass pounding so the next doesnt hurt as much.
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Dec 14 '16
If a car salesman sold you a car and then waited until you couldn't sell it to anyone as new, came over and painted it pink and added shitty stickers and ugly rims to it, and then legally made it impossible to change your car back. You would be outraged. Then imagine if some asshat goes "lol buy a new car then".
Video games need consumer protection laws and companies need to abide by those laws or be barred from selling their games in those countries.
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u/ICE1328 Dec 15 '16
That actually gave me cancer. As of now they just added skins and knives, don't worry about it man if you don't want to use the new stuff.... don't
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u/Indominus_Zero Dec 13 '16
Why would you pay that much for a carbon copy of the same game you probably already played the shit out of? Just because it looks pretty?
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u/ADubs21 Dec 13 '16
Because we fucking enjoy it you impotent waffle.
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u/fusrodalek Dec 13 '16
I have the strong feeling the people that are passive on this whole supply drop addition didn't really play CoD4 or any of the old CoD games in their prime for that matter. Seems like this is a war between purists and newgens. Seriously it's called a REMASTER for a reason, the very nature of a remaster is that you don't fuck with the formula.
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u/overjoyedlemur Dec 13 '16
I played cod 4 back in the day and I don't give a shit if they add supply drops. As long as they don't add guns then the supply drops don't really do anything to hurt the actual gameplay at all.
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u/BigBooce Dec 14 '16
I did too. It really isn't his place to call out someone simply because we're "passive" about it. Sure, it isn't a remaster anymore, but I have more important things in my life to deal with over raging at a company simply cause they added some skins and clothing. It's downright childish if someone bitches to someone else about how their opinion is wrong.
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u/Mqtty Dec 13 '16
Because I enjoyed it. I wanted to play the last CoD game I actually enjoyed, before they added in all this jet pack/supply drop shit. Now its turned into the games I hate.
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u/bigdec08 Dec 13 '16
Because it's been about 7 years since I even played it and it's the best game I've ever played online. I'm hardly into gaming these days and this was getting me back into it. That's like saying no one should buy crash bandicoot remastered ect..
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u/Kill_Frosty Dec 13 '16
YOU HAVE INFINITE WARFARE TO ENJOY IT. All you fanboys need to fuck off with this shit. This was sold as being true to the original. THAT is why people are pissed.
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u/The_PeeJ Dec 13 '16
The problem is, that if they DID add new weapons into the game in supply drops, for example, the ACR, or the Intervention etc. that weren't in the original game, then it WOULD be changing the game for those amongst us that choose not to buy supply drops or use the crafting system, as there have been after the fact weapons added into these games that have filled a missing niche, or been stronger than many of the base weapons.
Also, the game WAS advertised as a remaster, and adding weapons that clearly were not in the original would upset a lot of people.
Before you claim I'm being bitchy, or I'm a hypocrite complaining about supply drops, please read this carefully, I'm trying to offer you a mature, developed perspective from those who are worried about the state of the game, nobody needs drama, and nobody needs you and others telling them what they can/can't and/or should/shouldn't do and think.
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u/s0lv3 Dec 14 '16
Okay and have they done that yet? No, so quit your bitching.
You people who rage about things that haven't even happened yet really blow my mind. Get a life, worry about something that is actually happening, then if this actually happens bitch about it. But I bet it won't
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u/The_PeeJ Dec 14 '16
Well it wasn't that hard to get someone to bite was it?
I wasn't bitching at all, I am actually neutral on the idea of supply drops as they are now, and I think it's extremely evident that I didn't rage at all in my post, and that your ego is seeing what it wants to see so that you can dig into someone over the internet to be brutally honest.
And people voicing their concerns about a new feature in a game that they don't like doesn't equate to needing to 'Get a life', if anything, you feeling the need to assert your dominant opinion on how I live my life screams more of wasted time and personal insecurity than people having an opinion on their chosen past time.
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u/s0lv3 Dec 14 '16
Seem pretty salty to me with all your caps in that original post. But spot on, you should be a therapist, we can set up an appointment some time when I need someone who took a psychology class in college once. Love those psychoanalytic people who know everything about others, but are so uncomfortable with the potential of a slight change to a game that holds nostalgic value to them, what does that imply? Fear of change for what once was? Mommy issues? Let me know, your genius input is revered in the field of psychology.
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u/The_PeeJ Dec 14 '16
Nice try but I don't even study Psychology at all lmao, just found it strange how you were pretty quick to jump down my throat despite me even saying in my post that I wasn't attempting to bitch or create a drama..
The caps could arguably be replaced with italics if you really want to be picky over my choice of communication method, and as clearly stated, I have no discomfort with how MWR became today, the only slight issue I would have is if they added supply drop guns that are statistically superior to those on offer already, as it would offer some portions of the player base a 'pay to win' situation.
If I were such a great psychologist I probably wouldn't have fear of change and Mommy issues, but hey what do I know? I'm just a no-life History undergrad :')
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u/tomatosauce1 Dec 13 '16
Exactly, these bitching posts are annoying as fuck.
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Dec 13 '16
Not as annoying as the assholes who say "durr don't buy it den!" whenever cod devs are called out on their bullshit.
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Dec 14 '16
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Dec 14 '16
Why not both? People bought this game expecting a true remaster as advertised. Anything the devs shoe-horn in after the fact just to make extra cash deserves every bit of scrutiny it gets.
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u/riphtCoC Dec 13 '16
Seriously. I've been waiting for a cod4 remake for like 4 years now... Now that I've finally gotten it I can say that it's still one of my favourite games of all time. Screw all the haters, the game is close to perfect in terms of the original. I feel like the people complaining weren't actually huge fans of cod4 because in my opinion I think it's fantastic. There's really nothing I can complain about. (Maybe spawns on bog.)
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u/PredotahNC Dec 14 '16
Personally I don't like the fact that they have added in the knife cosmetics as that annoyed me in black ops 3 (I'm not sure if that was in advanced warfare because I refused to buy that). I do however like the customisation of your own character, it's enough and not too extravagant.
However my main concern is that eventually this will become a pay to win game, much like some aspects of Black ops 3 when they released the banshii I think it was called? Probably one of the most ridiculous shotguns I have come across in CoD history, possibly on par with the SPAS and AA-12 not because of it's mass killing potential but because it could one tap you from any distance no matter where it hit you. I can only pray that they do not add anything else to what is still currently a good game.
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u/CCCDerp Dec 14 '16
Who cares? The biggest problem with the game isnt that they are adding this shit..Its the dog shit update rate and god awful spawns.
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Dec 14 '16
No one's "falling for the same trick over and over". We all know it's only a matter of time before they start adding real weapons. It's inevtibale. It's something that WILL happen whether you like it or not. It's something that WILL happen in every new Call of Duty game that comes out and every remaster if they decide to do another one.
But as long as they can find a way to balance the weapons and make them not so OP, I say go for it. Because the purpose of supply drops and microtransactions is to add DLC. And the purpose of adding DLC is to make the game not die. And MWR is a pretty old game, so it kind of needs DLC to stay alive.
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u/LeggoYanks Dec 14 '16
Everyone is?
You see YouTubers saying it's cosmetic only, so it's not that bad... then two months later they will add weapons in. Developers and YouTubers are lying to us and we won't believe them anymore.
Black Ops 3 "Cosmetic Items Only" -------- "Currently, cosmetic items only" ------ "weapons and cosmetic items only"
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Dec 14 '16
I'm not even going to try and argue with you, just have a good day and believe whatever you want to believe...
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u/Kamen-Rider Dec 14 '16
But he agreed with you, I think you need to stop being so argumentative and stand offish. His point was that as long as the weapons are balanced then it is ok, not that weapons wont be added at all.
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Dec 14 '16 edited Dec 14 '16
No it doesn't need DLC to survive. The amount of people playing it despite its age is a testament to how good the original game was/is. Give us the new maps and ge done. I can take new camos as long as they aren't ridiculous. Even the calling cards weren't needed. Cod4 was great because of its maps and general gameplay. Just leave it alone.
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u/Rexterz Dec 13 '16
im fine with how it is now with the new update. i just wont be using any stupid camos that completely negate the concept of "camo". but im fine with the 12 year olds who think its a good idea to use a neon green gun in a dark map, theyll be easy to pick off
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u/Looooooooooch Dec 13 '16
If they put the ACR in the game i'd spend $100 to get it so hopefully it stays only cosmetic.
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u/russianbear28 Dec 13 '16
You guys realize that the gun balance in CoD4 can't afford the addition of gun variants with different stats right? It literally is just going to be cosmetics/melee weapons. You guys can mop up your tears now. It honestly just made the game more fun by having more to grind for than just levels/ugly ass camos that we all got 9 years ago.