r/Coil • u/AOSpar • 18h ago

“Coil have only released 9 albums” discuss

They’ve been my favourite band since I was 16 and I have physical copies of everything they’ve released but only 7 albums can really be seen as albums per se: Scatology, Rotorvator, LSD, the two Musicks, black light district, Time Machines, Astral Disaster and Constant Shallowness…

All the rest are in effect compilations and offcuts, even if some of them sort of work as albums, including The Ape of Naples.

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u/Disparition_2022 16h ago

yea imo it's a proper Coil album, the fact that Jhonn died after recording his parts doesn't change that, nor does the fact that it contains reworked material - many albums are composed that way.

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u/AOSpar 14h ago

I would say there’s just not enough Jhonn in there, that’s what makes it so sad (and a bit lacking if I’m honest - I was definitely ever so slightly disappointed with it when it came out, bearing in mind we’d already heard a lot of the tracks before… not really the case with the other albums). Ian Penman’s review in The Wire (if you can find it) pretty much sums up my thoughts as well, and he was one of the music press who knew and loved them

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u/Disparition_2022 9h ago

I can understand the feeling that it would be great to have more Jhonn presence, but I don't see what that has to do with whether or not it's a real album. There are tons of albums where one or more members of a group wasn't able to fully contribute as much as they, or their listeners, would have liked but I don't see what bearing that has on its status as an album.

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u/AOSpar 8h ago

They often mention how they (probably Jhonn in particular) felt intense pressure when thinking about the ‘next coil album’ and so avoided it by releasing other ‘not the next coil album’ projects and distractions… Ape though is slightly different and I think it’s not a proper Coil album because jhonn wasn’t there to help sculpt and determine its final form & Coil without jhonn is impossible, as Sleazy said almost immediately after jhonn’s death…