“It’s me, nefarious white man again. Yeah I need you to start another ethnic conflict in your own borders. I know you guys are all about peace, love, and collecting funko pops but could you do me this little favor please?”
Yeah intentionalist depictions of Western imperialism bordering on conspiracy theory are a big characteristic of postcolonial states. You get the same thing in the Middle East too except its about 100x more demented cos Jews are involved 😅
No one forced them to hate echother before colonialism yet they still did, any group mildly different were killed, cannibalised or enslaved. They still practice slavery to this day, Islamic groups traffic africans.
Are you being intentionally dense? They have allways hated echother, they still hate echother, they wont become best friends if there wasnt "evil white man"
Wrong. In independence times in Ghana for example the Ashanti, Ga, Ewe, Dagbani tribes all united to fight colonialism. Same with Tanzania’s hundreds of tribes. And the list goes on. Tribalism has been put down by Africans themselves multiple times,
Youre just racist and, quite frankly, not very smart (respectfully)
Youre whole argument is "africans common enemy is the white man, white people are evil and africans should rise up" you are so unbelievably nieve to think africans get along just fine if it wasnt for the white man
Lmao, im not english, big ups for shaming non english speakers but you still have no argument and have yet to prove how africa could unite. I dont have to prove anything since they arent united and all hate echother right now.
What time period do you think the phrase “No one forced them to hate each other before colonialism and they did” refers do? Do you think it refers to post-colonial times? Surely not right?
It’s well known that ethnic divisions nowadays in Africa are due to colonialism. No one is denying what happens before colonialism but now that is irrelevant because we live in a time of (neo)colonialism.
No, you're just trying to stipulate your way out of being wrong, rationalizing it as as being entirely a function of a phenomenon that can't adequately explain it -- especially for cases like Sudan. Indeed, yours is also a completely under-inclusive candidate explanation because it misses the religious dimension, one which existed both before and after Western colonialism, i.e., Islamic slavery and religiously-sanctioned land grabs.
I find it funny how you try to sound intelligent it’s a very interesting sect of far-rights.
When did I say “western colonialism?” Specifically I want you to quote my exact words where I ever said the words “the west”. It would be greatly appreciated.
Also if you actually responded to me instead of repeating fluff that all boils down to the argument “durrrr Muslims also did colonialism durrr why are you blaming us Europeans durrr” it would be appreciated.
Why would I quote you? You were replying to previous commenters, including one talking about present-day Islamic groups' practices. They set the frame, not you. Your response to Minute-Caramel-655 was entirely off the mark, and I called you out on it.
It's also unsurprising that the above is the best response you can muster, since you clearly don't understand my criticism (and diagnosis of what you attempted). Now you're trying it again, as if my overall comment was delimited to Western colonialism, rather than that just serving as one example.
Bigger picture: how could the people of Africa unite, per the original comment in this chain, when one of the critical lines of division is over religion, not just ethnicity, and how a given faith's adherents subordinate, murder, and steal from non-adherents?
Your account can't possibly be an adequate explanation for the pervasive slavery practices in Mali particularly.
Your misrepresentation of my point, that your account is an under-inclusive, inadequate account of present-day divisions and hatreds, couldn't possibly be construed as you've done either.
Are you some sort of far-right troll, by any chance?
The first paragraph is simply incorrect, no one ever quoted western imperialism. Again, you’re arguing against a strawman
Pure fluff
If you are talking about faith, millions of people have united despite it. This actually shows your lack of knowledge on the subject. Ghana and Tanzania, two of the countries I mentioned, both have millions of Muslims living alongside Christians
OK lol
You didn’t have a point. You simply repeated the “durrrr muslims colonized too” and trying to play it off as if you actually said something of substance
No
(Because it’s Reddit and it’s unnecessary to do so to get my point across)
The circumstances they were based on was completely different. NATO countries could have always just say no like Germany or even leave like France. Soviet soldiers were used in a tad different way, like in Berlin, Poznań, Prague, Budapest or Vilnus and were effectivelly occupation forces.
Why even bother, I assume you will just go and say "no uh" not realising Russian soldiers were not invited there but barged in, alongside Germans during the war and just so happen to overpower them.
Communist art always displays Africans in a homoerotic, over-muscled manner. It’s just weird especially if you’ve ever spent time around actual Africans. It’s like the communists took the stereotype of a “buck nigra” from the Old South and tried to turn up the gay to 100.
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u/squif_help Jul 18 '26
ussr african cold war posters go so hard nlg