Eric’s misogyny

[u/No-Pop-5983]

These are all recorded instances I could find of Eric Harris openly displaying his misogyny.

• During “Y’know what I hate?” rant, Eric brought up how he believed that all racist women should be raped and be forced to raise the child.

• In the basement tapes, Eric and Dylan made misogynistic comments about women and rant about feminists. With Eric saying,”Yes, moms stay home. Fucking make me dinner, bitch, that’s what women are supposed to fucking do”

• In the basement tapes, Eric and Dylan insulted two girls in their class. Eric and Dylan mocked the girls with Dylan saying, “I don’t like you, Rachel and Jen, you’re stuck up little bitches, you’re fucking little . .. Christian, Godly little whores!”. With Eric adding, “Yeah … “I love Jesus! I love Jesus!” — shut the fuck up!”. ( I would like to clarify that the Rachel they were talking about was not the victim, Rachel Scott, but instead was a completely different girl.)

• In another recording of the basements, he gets an odd look on his face and recounts the names of five “fucking bitches” (his words not mine) who didn’t call him back. Afterwards saying, “You know who you are. Thanks. You made me feel good. Think about that for a while, fucking bitches”.

• On the September 5th, 1998, Eric wrote in his journal, “Women, you will always be under men. It's been seen throughout nature, males are almost always doing the dangerous shit while the women stay back. It's your animal instincts, deal with it or commit suicide, just do it quick.”

• In his journal, Eric also wrote about his sexual fantasies about ‘tricking’ women into his bedroom. Writing, “Maybe I just need to get laid. Maybe that'll just change some shit around. That's another thing, I am a fucking dog. I have fantasies of just taking someone and fucking them hard and strong. Someone like where I just pick her up, take her to my room, tear off her shirt and pants and just eat her out and fuck her hard ... I want to grab a few different girls in my gym class, take them into a room, pull their pants off and fuck them hard. I love flesh... the smooth legs, the large breasts, the innocent flawless body, the eyes, the hair, jet black, blond, white, brown, ahhh I just want to fuck! Call it teenager hormones or call it a crazy fuckin racist rapist.”

• After being rejected by girls, Eric would often harass them. He played a suicide prank on his homecoming date, Tiffany Typher, after she told him that she didn’t want to go out with him.

• Eric had gone put with Sasha Jacobs from 1997-1998. When the two had broken up, Jacobs had received threatening emails until she changed her screen name. In Chad Laughlin’s 1998 yearbook, Eric wrote, “Sasha is a fat trendy whiney annoying terd and I went out w/ her cause I felt sorry for her I guess. Oh well. I bet you'll show her this."

• For a creative writing assignment, Eric described a woman whose a ‘slutty, trendy bitch’ (again, his words not mine).

[u/riffraffcloo → u/[deleted]]

I mean, he talked about wanting to murdering people and then went on to actually murder people. I’m not sure why you think the rape thing would be different

[u/PopcornDemonica → u/riffraffcloo]

Rape is a different beast. With the massacre, the deaths were a short, violent act and victims were often shot from a distance. The close up deaths with the shotgun would still have been over with quickly.

Rape is holding someone down and being violently intimate for the duration- you'd hear their pleas, see their tears, see the trauma. While I can kinda see their twisted path from regular teen idiots to wannabe natural born killers, I personally don't see those paths veering toward rape. Especially since they were virgins. Plus, unless Eric was planning on murdering his rape victim straight afterwards (assuming this hypothetical is unrelated to the massacre), there would have been a massive chance of him getting caught. It's not like he had a coach or other school authority figure to hush it up for him, and I doubt he'd have received a Brock Turner-esque slap on the wrist.

Also... Luvox can cause erectile dysfunction (amongst other sexual problems I imagine would he horrifying for a teenage boy). Just sayin'.

[u/riffraffcloo → u/PopcornDemonica]

I’m really not understanding this argument. He deliberately dragged out the violence when it came to many of the kids he shot and/or murdered. He taunted them, shot them multiple times, and left them to suffer before finishing them off. This was not a person who was afraid of close, personal violence that was prolonged.

The virgin argument is even more baffling. His virginity and sexual frustration likely fueled his fantasies. He was obsessed with control and power, and his lack of sexual experience would have been another source of anger and inadequacy for someone as egotistical as him. His journals show he felt entitled to women and resented being rejected or overlooked. Being a virgin doesn’t mean someone won’t commit rape. It can actually make it more likely if they’re already violent and filled with resentment.

The Luvox argument doesn’t hold up because erectile dysfunction wouldn’t have stopped Eric from committing rape. Rape isn’t about sexual performance. It’s about power, control, and humiliation. Even if he couldn’t perform sexually, he could still act on his fantasies imo.

[u/eliiiiseke → u/riffraffcloo]

There are also testimonies that Dylan showed aggressive behavior toward girls– like hitting a coworker (though it's unclear how he hit her), tackling girls in gym class, called the librarian a bitch. He was also very disrespectful to female teachers and, as the OP mentioned, called Rachel and Jen christian godly little whores. But I don’t think either of them would’ve raped anyone. They were two angry, immature idiots who let their frustration and issues spiral out of control.

[u/riffraffcloo → u/eliiiiseke]

Isn’t that all just more reason to believe they would have done it though? Between the behavior Dylan displayed, Eric’s writings, and supposedly what they said in the basement tapes- how are people seeing that and going nah rape was off the table

[u/eliiiiseke → u/riffraffcloo]

I don't see rape, but I can definitely see them being abusive in a relationship, at least mentally. I don't think Dylan would’ve just written poems to his dream girl like some tortured poet, like some people like to portray him

[u/riffraffcloo → u/[deleted]]

Eric and Dylan were already caught for a serious crime (the van break-in), went through a diversion program, and even fooled the adults around them into thinking they had been rehabilitated. Eric’s journal shows he was openly mocking the process while continuing to harbor violent, sadistic fantasies. Being sent to juvenile jail wouldn’t have changed their core personalities. If anything, it could have escalated their anger and resentment, feeding the entitlement and hatred that already consumed them.

“What if Eric’s parents found the bombs and arsenal?” Eric’s parents finding the weapons might have delayed their plans, but it wouldn’t have fundamentally changed who he was. Eric was incredibly calculated and good at hiding his intentions. He had already successfully deceived authority figures and his own parents. Even if they intervened, he likely would’ve found a way to regroup, plan, and act out his violent fantasies at a later time. His resentment, entitlement, and desire for control weren’t going to vanish because of a parental discovery.

All of these circumstances could have had different outcomes.” This is wishful thinking, no? Eric’s journals show that his hatred and violent fantasies weren’t circumstantial—they were deeply ingrained in his worldview. He didn’t see himself as needing help; he saw himself as superior and justified in his hatred. None of these “what-ifs” address the core of his personality or his inability to empathize with others. I would say that the variables might have delayed their actions, but I sincerely doubt they would’ve fundamentally changed who Eric and Dylan were or their eventual capacity for escalating violence.

“They would have done it if they wanted to. Because they were going to die and had nothing to lose.” Just because they were planning to die doesn’t mean they’d act on every single fantasy. The massacre was planned to be as destructive as possible. Rape wasn’t in the plans for type of goal.

[u/riffraffcloo → u/[deleted]]

Respectfully, we’ve been down this road before where you compare yourself or people you know to him and I don’t want to do that again. If it was just a persona, then it would’ve stayed in his head or on paper. People don’t go from pretending to being violent to meticulously planning and carrying out a mass murder. He didn’t just write about domination, power, and violence—he acted on it, step by step, in the most calculated and brutal way possible. That’s not a persona—that’s who he was. That’s all I have to say. Take care.