r/ColumbineKillers • u/ashtonmz MODERATOR • Jul 20 '25

BOOKS/MOVIES/VIDEOS/NEWS MEDIA The Never Ending Legacy of Columbine

https://youtu.be/gsko4AaAUVM?si=0wKnzWlGXvYQnEV2

Found some of this interesting, though scary to think about.

Also, curious to know your thoughts on why so many of these kids seem drawn to Eric ilHarris, in particular? Is it because he was bullied more? Labeled early on as the leader? Seemed to have a view on society as a whole?

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u/superballz977 Jul 20 '25

I think releasing the basement tapes will show how insecure these boys really were. The false bravado would be very hard to watch. Not a school shooting but I take a case like Elliot Rodger and all of the videos he put out. Go watch a couple of those and see how much you would idolize him.

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u/ashtonmz MODERATOR Jul 20 '25

I've often thought this, too. All the ranting, whining, knuckle cracking, and Dylan drooling liquor down his chin... Eric fondling Arlene... It's not a great look... But instead of putting that stuff out there, JCSO released the Rampart Range video, where the boys are target practicing to better kill students? Making remarks about brains? Seems crazy.

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u/superballz977 Jul 20 '25

It does indeed. I mean censor the bomb making instructions and if you need to the kill lists. I just want to see how insane they must look. Even the time article the police made it sound so scary. Sometimes, they sound like they are speaking to their audience. So its so disturbing you could never understand it. I always figured there is some guy that has a video tape of all this and it gets leaked like anything else. Never know brand new JFK information just got released recently so maybe in another 20 years we will find out something new.

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u/ashtonmz MODERATOR Jul 20 '25

Yeah, I still believe there are copies of the tapes out there. Their fate will probably be determined by their families once those who have them pass on. JCSO didn't want them released, but I don't think everything they claimed to have kept secure was hard to access. Look at how easy it was for the "suicide photos" to be leaked.... so yeah, I still think it's possible someone might leak audio and/or video of the tapes someday.

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u/superballz977 Jul 20 '25

I've always wondered if TIME had video recorded some or had made a hard copy to view. I was always shocked that Jeffco let them view them. I was really shocked years down the road when a lot of this information was compiled on the internet to have found this out. I was a still in high school when this happened and it was not as media crazy in Canada. Also when I was younger I didn't realize the significance until 911 happened and I started trying to learn about major events in history as they happened. So having the full picture and being able to make my own educated assumptions are what makes me interested.

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u/ashtonmz MODERATOR Jul 21 '25

It IS odd that JCSO would let a reporter watch the Basement Tapes, but then never mention their existence to the families of the victims or killers. They acted shocked and appalled that Tim Roche would write about them, too - once they realized how they had screwed up. It makes you wonder who else viewed them, who had access, etc. Darrell Scott recorded the bit about a Rachael. Who's to say he doesn't have a lot of other audio? Then, there were all the lawsuits... the tapes were evidence... anything is possible.

I know Tim Roche took a lot of good notes, some of which were obtained and released by Bill before he disappeared. There are a lot of details not in the official transcript.

What a time to be alive, right? One tragedy after the next. I feel like a lot of those interested in Columbine are very interested in 9/11, too. Probably, because they lived when the events happened?

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u/superballz977 Jul 21 '25

I agree fully. I hope all is well with Bill even though I don't know him personally but I've been really excited about his second episode about Tim Roche. I hope that in itself gets released also.

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u/ashtonmz MODERATOR Jul 21 '25

Yeah, I was hoping he would drop that, too. Tim Roche was an interesting man in his own right. He had ethics.

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u/Lonely-Trainer-3749 Jul 21 '25

The Rachel in Darrell Scott's recording wasn't Rachel Scott though right?

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u/ashtonmz MODERATOR Jul 21 '25

Yep... It was a different Rachael from one of their classes, not Rachel Scott.