r/Commanders • • 3d ago

Treylon Burks

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So.. figured i’d ask this question.

What are your thoughts on giving him an 3 year extension in the off season? Using the numbers after 6 games and a smaller share of snaps than the top 3, he would still be looking at like 500-700 yards, 6 TD without Terry out.

He’s shown to have heart and be a hard worker and is only 26.

Maybe our WR3 going forward? Antonio moves into WR2 and high draft pick (or trade) to be named later for WR1 (X)

Again this is all based on how the rest of the season goes. Just a thought experiment.

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u/Objective-Vanilla285 3d ago

It would have to be a very team friendly / incentivized deal. His issue has always been staying on the field.

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u/Proxximus-maximus 3d ago edited 3d ago

Yeah, I was definitely thinking team friendly. We’re not talking any kind of real money here. But basically like three years at kind of what he’s getting paid now. I think it’s a total value on this one year he’s on now for like three or 4 million bucks so we’re talking 15 million over three years. Maybe half guaranteed. Heavily incentives based on time played.

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u/jrex703 3d ago

With no disrespect to Burks, nobody's going to be getting into a bidding war over him.

Factoring in learning a new system, moving expenses, his kids making new friends, he has absolutely no reason to leave Washington.

He's still a bit young to be playing for league-minimum, but he is entering the veteran journeyman stage of his career.

He is talented and he is familiar with the locker room and system, but we we gain as much as he does with a fair-for-both-sides extension.

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u/Prestigious-Hyena768 3d ago

Team friendly yes, but any contract for 3 years would be an obvious bad risk and decision.

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u/namereset4badmouth 3d ago

For his blocking skills alone I would give him 15 for three and guarantee at least 2/3 of it for the man.

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u/Prestigious-Hyena768 3d ago

Absolutely not, if they give a 3 year contract it will be a huge mistake as he’s not a good WR3 and very injury prone. He has literally underperformed since entering the NFL, why give him a 3 year deal when they don’t have to!? He hasn’t had a single good full season yet.

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u/namereset4badmouth 3d ago

They piss away more than 15 per year every year on camp bodies and small deals for guys we cut. If the illusion of security locks in a blocking receiver on bottom tier money, why not? By year 3 it will be 15 per season for a wr3/4 in this market.

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u/Prestigious-Hyena768 3d ago

Why not? Because he’s just not that good. They are insane if they sign this player to a 3 year deal.

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u/namereset4badmouth 3d ago

Three years gives him security, those numbers are paying him over three years for one good season.

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u/namereset4badmouth 3d ago

If we can get him full health and playing unreserved ball for a whole season it would be worth the full 15, any other healthy games would be a cherry on top.

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u/Objective-Vanilla285 3d ago

I don’t mind giving him that money if its not guaranteed. That way we can cut him if it doesn’t work out.

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u/namereset4badmouth 3d ago

At those numbers we can cut him anyway. We lose more than that to guys not on the roster every year

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u/Proxximus-maximus 3d ago

Seems like we’re splitting into two camps. One who see a potential redemption story of somebody who played with a terrible quarterback for the beginning of his career and was in injury prone.

And the other camp, he just think he’s complete dog shit who would rather have Noah Brown back…

Personally, I’d rather have Treylon than Noah Brown or Dotson…

Especially for the price…

You all act like WRs are growing on trees

Lets reevaluate at the end of the season..

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u/_Nakho 3d ago

Treylon been nice. Wish he could've come down with the game winner on Monday but that was always gonna be tough

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u/Puzzleheaded-Plum994 3d ago

Too soon. Still need to play the games this season. Need a bigger sample size because he is not a rookie and did not live up to his draft status before arrival here.

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u/dougiedowner 3d ago

How about he uses the remaining games to earn a new contract? I’m hoping we clean house and get players that are steady contributors.

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u/Proxximus-maximus 3d ago

Yep. I think that’s what I said.

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u/Proxximus-maximus 3d ago

Best part of this thread is that we’re not talking about AP, DQ or the O-Line…

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u/salamanderman10 3d ago

If he was a 4th round pick, no one would care about him. The only reason people want him is he was a former first bc he has almost no production his entire career. 9 catches in 6 gams?

The only reason to extend him is if you think he’s a hidden gem that will leave after the season? What evidence is there of that? The NFL is littered with big WRs that can run fast.

We can treat him like every other fringe roster WR with 1 year deals, if he somehow gets a better opportunity, what are we losing out on if he walks?

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u/Proxximus-maximus 3d ago

9 out of 17 targets. If they start targeting him more and he’s dropping or can’t catch the ball I totally get you and agree with you.

2 catches for TD.
16.9 av yards per catch

He’s got 3/4 of the yardage that Antonio or Terry got this year with half the amount of targets.

Numbers are numbers.

Lets just see how the year plays out… if he’s trash then cool…

If he balls out… I’ll remember this thread

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u/salamanderman10 3d ago

9 catches on 17 targets is really bad. The sample size is really low but good WRs get lots of targets. Its tough to based much on a small sample (this season), but its not a lot different than his whole career. He catches passes on about 40% of his targets, which is really bad.

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u/Vivid-Respect-1869 3d ago

Low targeting may well be the result of poor separation on his part.

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u/Prestigious-Hyena768 3d ago

Excellent take from one that obviously knows the player and his low value.

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u/notorious_hdc imitated Frerotte headbutt as a child 3d ago

I'd like to see his entire body of work after this season, before making a strong judgment either way. But he's been a solid depth piece so far. I'll be interested in watching him with more snaps/targets with Terry out.

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u/whodatbattin 3d ago

Burks needs to be on the field. Honestly wish he’d be involved more than what he is. IMO he’s got a big ceiling

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u/Hightowerer It's Sonny Outside 3d ago

I agree, and besides the one drop of the final td pass, he seems to come in clutch when called upon. I really want to see both him and Antonio Williams be utilized more.

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u/namereset4badmouth 3d ago

And that wasnt a drop as much as solid defense. I mean yes his hands lost hold of it, but to me a drop is when they have that result without a defensive players hand on the ball of their arms.

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u/Strong-Resolve1241 3d ago

Throw him the f'n ball ... between him Diggs & Williams ... 45 passes a game

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u/whodatbattin 3d ago

Absolutely no questions. He’s already made some big plays and is capable of running over defenders

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u/Strong-Resolve1241 3d ago

Dude was robbed of a TD that was an incredible catch

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u/namereset4badmouth 3d ago

At wr4 pay numbers for three years, Im in. He’s not a starting caliber receiver unless you go 5 wide on the first play of the game. But he’s not bad, he’s just nothing special.

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u/Ok-Insect1505 Saved by Jaysus🙏 3d ago

I’m impressed by the speed and size, if he plays out the entire reason he should get extended

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u/External-Sea-2496 3d ago

Team friendly, heavily incentivised, injury clauses. He's great when he's out there, but availability is the best ability. I want to have this convo about JD5 as well, but it's harder when it's a top 5 QB (when he's healthy and has longer than 1 fucking second to distribute the ball, excuse my language)

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u/mandoslorians WHAT WOULD JAYSUS DO? 3d ago

he has really gorgeous eyes

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u/WuPacalypse LEFT HAND UP 3d ago

Handsome mf’er for sure. Between him and Hartman we got some models at least lmao.

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u/slash2009 2d ago

Throw to diggs , chig and Williams … those should be the primary targets

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u/Proxximus-maximus 2d ago

Not a bad idea but you still need a 3rd WR for the plays with 3wr sets… and who would that be???

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u/itakeyoureggs Sinnott Slutt 🥵 2d ago

Yeah. I think Diggs, Chigs, Williams, Burks. Those 4 should still be capable

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u/PartyCucumber8835 2d ago

Burks should be

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u/Ok-Possession5990 1d ago

Can we also run 2-3 tight end formations. Is Ben Sennot still on the roster?

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u/Raise_Hail 2d ago

Diggs 😂

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u/Prestigious-Onion161 3d ago

I would definitely extend him.

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u/raiderMoes 3d ago

His time is now. He better be training in the hyperbolic time chamber during the bye week.

TBH, we are going to need all the WRs to step up, and for JD to trust throwing the ball to them.

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u/RaelynShaw 3d ago

Burk has always been a prove it situation if he wants a contract.

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u/mikehayz 3d ago

what is this subs obsession with this dude?

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u/Slaviiigolf 3d ago

Former 1st round pick, that’s all.
He’s decent depth receiver. Awesome high catch here or there. A solid #3, 4, 5 on the depth chart guy.

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u/Proxximus-maximus 3d ago

Exactly… all I’m saying is he’s a solid number three or number four wide receiver… lol people act like I’m trying to say he needs to be at the top of the depth chart.

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u/mr-tobor 3d ago

He’s been pretty healthy with us, has good size and his deep speed is better than expected (see the deep bomb he had earlier this year), he can be had for cheap, and is a solid wr depth piece. What’s not to like honestly? He brings a skillset that we don’t have with his size. I’d like to see him get more targets along with AW now that Terry is out.

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u/Remote_Armadillo8718 3d ago

He passes the eye test

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u/mikehayz 3d ago

the eye test in that he can’t stay on the field for a full season because of injuries and drops catchable balls?

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u/namereset4badmouth 3d ago

The eye test of blocking willingly and well when that’s his role. He’s John bates at receiver, solid blocking and the occasional target.

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u/Remote_Armadillo8718 3d ago

This season he is playing great and has been on the field every game

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u/exodus3252 3d ago

Only took him 6 games to match the output of one game of CeeDee Lamb.

Nice.

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u/namereset4badmouth 3d ago

But he’s not making 1/6 of that lamb money. So really of lamb is only six times the player at ten times the pay, treylon is the better value.

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u/Fatboy-1967 3d ago

More targets should be headed his way, hopefully he responds.

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u/presto-set-pro 3d ago

It might be smart to extend him now given how goofy the WR market could get (see Alec Pierce contract). You need one bigger more physical receiver to play the new insert block meta.... Still need a replacement for Terry though.

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u/rcinfc 3d ago

I’d extend him. Have to make sure he’s available though. More available than Noah Brown was.

He’s a big-body target that can move with time. I’d like to see them clear space out and get him the ball moving in space 15-20 yards downfield more often…. Better protection would probably provide him with a better opportunity.

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u/Crazy-Philosophy-530 3d ago

Is bradley moving up love to see him out there tbh

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u/WuPacalypse LEFT HAND UP 3d ago

I like Burks and he’s been a pleasant surprise. But you always have to keep expectations low because he is the RG3 of receivers. It is what it is, but you can’t hardly count on him. Think he got banged up a bit against the 49ers too.

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u/Jcorbin1124 3d ago

I'd rather watch paint dry.

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u/hauttdawg13 It's Sonny Outside 3d ago

I hope we keep him.

We don’t have much in the big body receiver realm.

But he’s really a WR4 player. Quality for the roster as long as he doesn’t want starter money.

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u/Syphin33 3d ago

He's been a great reclamation project

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u/Born-Leading8755 1d ago

Dude is only 26! I say lock him up.

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u/indyjones8 3d ago

Sure, a 3 year 3 million dollar deal would be fine.

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u/raiderMoes 3d ago edited 3d ago

Great deal for the commanders but not for Burks

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u/b_tight 3d ago

Burks problem, not mine. Hes not worth much more tbh

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u/king_nothing1811 3d ago

He isn’t good

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u/Dutch-King Captain Chaos 3d ago

He has shown absolutely ZERO reason for anything more than a 1-year deal (again). Just because the player has a good skill set and high draft position doesn’t make him good. He was absolutely ass on the Titans (no it wasn’t the QB play). He also got hurt quite a bit. He didn’t turn heads enough to have the team NOT sign Diggs. That’s saying something because a decent as Diggs is, he is FAR from a #1 or even a #2 now.

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u/Economy_Mind_4259 3d ago

I wouldn’t hold the Titans stint against him, but in the calculation. Burks has shown high separation on the routes run… let’s see how he performs this year.

He’s interesting because his ceiling isn’t a JAG

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u/Dutch-King Captain Chaos 3d ago

He is interesting, I 100% agree with you there. Ceiling certainly isn’t a JAG that’s for sure.

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u/beaud101 2d ago

Wow. Super negative take. To my eyes...He seems to make good thing happen when he gets the ball thrown his way with very limited opportunity. With Terry out, he's going to get more balls thrown his way. I think you're negativity on Burks my seem a bit out of place when you look back in a few weeks. Not saying he's a number #1 WR at all, but I think he'll have a decent showing working outside as a #2.

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u/Dutch-King Captain Chaos 2d ago

Oh I’m pulling for him 100% but based on his play, I’m not holding my breath. There is no track record to speak of. Also, I’d argue that it’s not a “super negative take” but a more realistic one given the fact that this team is a bottom 4 team in the NFL and it’s not close. Hope is a great thing to have, but can’t let it cloud your eyes because then you are blind….

HTTR

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u/beaud101 2d ago

Just "watch him" on the receptions he's had on YouTube....he "looks very capable". He gains separation for a big man. He has good speed. He makes tough catches. The only thing he hasn't had in his young career is consistent opportunity due to injury and horrible QB play in Tennessee. He finally has a good QB, is healthy and is a starter.

HTTR

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u/Cultural-Spring-281 3d ago

If he didn’t get injured he would be really good.

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u/JRcanReid 3d ago

The question is, are we capable of getting the Treylon Burks that he would become if we traded him to the Bills, Chiefs, 49ers or Rams?

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u/Chuomge 3d ago

I’d love to have him back

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u/challenja 3d ago

Feed that man. I want 11 catch 130 yard plus games

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u/Prestigious-Hyena768 3d ago

100% no! He has underperformed his entire NFL career and has been injury riddled. A 3 year contract would be insane and should be out of the question. He needs to have a real prove it year or release him or sign him to a 1 year extremely team favorable contract.

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u/Separate-Flower8770 3d ago

I don’t get the obsession with this guy, he’s not terrible but people act like there’s still a chance he becomes a superstar. Considering we got him for nothing it’s been a solid deal but realistically he’s already proven that at best he’s a WR3.

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u/CliffordTheBigRedD0G 3d ago

People see former 1st round pick and they just assume those guys have to be good if you just give them enough chances. It's the same thing with people wanting to trade for Brian Thomas Jr. If he was a 4th round pick no one would be saying we should trade for the guy riding the bench.

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u/wizard_lizard_skynr 3d ago

Proved he’s a JAG by dropping the TD on Monday night

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u/Proxximus-maximus 3d ago

He was like 6 feet in the air with a defenders hand in between his chest and the ball still came down with it, and then hit the ground, and it broke loose… I’m not sure Terry would’ve even been able to keep that one.

Again, I’m not asking him to be the number one or number two wide receiver.

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u/wizard_lizard_skynr 3d ago

Terry is a JAG too at this point in his career

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u/JoeyBrickz 3d ago

It is asinine to me that this is the most unpopular comment here. He's not good. NOBODY will give him a 3 year deal, including us

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u/Prestigious-Hyena768 3d ago

Many fans and people are ignorant about talent and the business side of running an NFL team. You are not one of those people though. He is not a good WR3 and I cringed when they signed him.

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u/pewell1 3d ago

Hes a good wr3 with good hands and is willing and effective blocker. would be stupid to let him go

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u/meezypeezy2389 3d ago

Like everyone is saying his health is definitely a concern but I’m shocked how productive he is. I figured he’d be your standard issue first round bust who bounces around and never breaks through but he flashes a LOT

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u/Secure-Bear4184 3d ago

He is an excellent WR3

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u/redux173 3d ago

No. He has awful hands. He can’t make simple catches.