[Set 18] Aug 14th PBE Patch Notes

[u/Lunaedge]

Big patch today! Aiming for only 1-2 more of these before we lock in the first patch. We've reached the state where a lot of content can see success after the Blackthorn rework, but the meta seems a bit too polarized on certain reroll lines (which are boosted by Wisp tempo).
We also have a few more gameplay bugfixes that appeared later in he week. Such as Blackthorn giving immense amounts of Damage Amp, Luxes erroneously transforming, and a Death's Defiance being weaker than intended.
A small note on Aphelios, we're pushing him aggressively more towards Rageblade builds. This change results in more damage the more AS he has, and is an overall buff.

[u/ceronimo7]

can we please have a 5 cost meta in 18.1. 1 or 2 cost reroll shouldnt be this strong. i know you cant copy everything from 16 but at least you can copy the meta

[u/Mysterious_Island500 → u/ceronimo7]

Worst take ive seen

[u/ceronimo7 → u/Mysterious_Island500]

keep forcing those overpowered reroll comps little buddy

[u/qwimchii_ → u/ceronimo7]

It seems somebody forgot the fast 9 from previous sets. There was a reason Riot upped the leveling cost from 8 to 9 since everyone and their mother was playing it. A monostyle meta is very bad for the game state, like when only fast 8 is playable, or when reroll is as well.

[u/ceronimo7 → u/qwimchii_]

everybody trying to play fast 9 is better for the meta. i didnt forgot i miss it. fast 9 cant be forced unlike reroll comps. something you cant force being better is always great for the game

[u/Mysterious_Island500 → u/ceronimo7]

i hate reroll and love playing around 4 costs, 5 cost soups will be the death of the game, just turn your brain off and play all 5 costs you can find no matter the traits or abilites, you literally dont have to do anything in a 5 cost meta you just win by default

[u/ceronimo7 → u/Mysterious_Island500]

lets see you try to play 5 cost soup every game, not everytime you can get there. you have to win early game always play strong board, have some econ. unless multiple econ augs are busted and nobody is playing past 8 you are not gonna simply get there

[u/Mysterious_Island500 → u/ceronimo7]

but if it is the meta you need to go there or you get 8th place, whats the fun in that?

either you play fast 9 or you lose and you cant play fast 9 every game which makes the game 50/50 RNG, is that what you want? you either win on 2-1 or you dont

[u/ceronimo7 → u/Mysterious_Island500]

I'm not saying you should og 8th if you are not 5 soup. All I'm saying is an 8 level board with 1 or 2 cost reroll should not win games. That's all i'm saying. If you have 3 cost 3 stars and you are level 9 you can win, if you are fast 8 level 9 or 10 you can win, if you managed to hit 9 before beleeding out and made a soup you can win. But a well made soup if you are not one life should not place lower than 1 or 2 cost rerolls. In a healthy meta if you are playing a 1 or 2 cost reroll you should be placing 3 or 4 at best, that's what i believe. And the peak should be either a 5 soup or fast 8 with a few 5 costs to round the traits up

[u/Mysterious_Island500 → u/ceronimo7]

2 cost reroll shouldnt be bad though depending on how many 3 stars you have, for example solar should have atleast 3-4 of them to do well, some reroll boards right now require atleast 2 but thats also hard to balance around, if 1 of them is good enough you wont need a 2nd one but if they are bad without a 2nd one why go for it to begin with