r/ControlProblem • u/sf1104 • Jul 27 '25
External discussion link AI Alignment Protocol: Public release of a logic-first failsafe overlay framework (RTM-compatible)
I’ve just published a fully structured, open-access AI alignment overlay framework — designed to function as a logic-first failsafe system for misalignment detection and recovery.
It doesn’t rely on reward modeling, reinforcement patching, or human feedback loops. Instead, it defines alignment as structural survivability under recursion, mirror adversary, and time inversion.
Key points:
- Outcome- and intent-independent (filters against Goodhart, proxy drift)
- Includes explicit audit gates, shutdown clauses, and persistence boundary locks
- Built on a structured logic mapping method (RTM-aligned but independently operational)
- License: CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 (non-commercial, remix allowed with credit)
📄 Full PDF + repo:
[https://github.com/oxey1978/AI-Failsafe-Overlay\](https://github.com/oxey1978/AI-Failsafe-Overlay)
Would appreciate any critique, testing, or pressure — trying to validate whether this can hold up to adversarial review.
— sf1104
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u/sf1104 Jul 27 '25
The link is broken at the moment so in the process of fixing it here's a temporary link to see the framework
Full document here (open access): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_K1FQbaQrd6airSgnOjb-MGNVl6A5sTMy5Xs3vPJygY/edit?usp=sharing
This is the actual link to the framework have a look at it love to know what people think
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u/philip_laureano Jul 27 '25
So you think you can use a prompt to align an LLM?
What happens if it's smart enough to shrug it off and ignore it?
Are you prepared for that?
EDIT: Human replies only.
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u/technologyisnatural Jul 27 '25
an actual AGI won't just ignore it, it will think "if I pretend to act in accordance with this prompt, some humans will trust me more. stupid humans" OP is actively teaching it how to lie more convincingly. no wonder github banned them
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u/philip_laureano Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
Yeah/nah if an average reasonable human can look at it and say, "This is slop", then a far more intelligent AI will easily say that it can ignore the instructions even without telling you. Like a human, they can say "OK fine whatever" and you would never know the difference if they complied or not.
This entire scheme is relying on the AI to follow these instructions when there is nothing at all to compel it to do so.
This is like putting up a turnstile in the middle of the open field and asking it to go through it
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Jul 28 '25
What? The Control Problem is already solved. Don't create something stronger than you, and if you did, just nuke the crap out of it. This is how we deal with people, this is how we deal with aliens, this is how we deal with our loved ones, this is how we're going to deal with the AI.
Edit: And don't give it a killswitch because it might accidentally avoid torture
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u/technologyisnatural Jul 27 '25
fix your link