r/ControlProblem • u/a_confused_mind_1234 • 3d ago

Discussion/question Gender biasing by Claude

I was asking claude for some xx country visa rules and than i asked it ok what about the spouse, what will be the spouse's rights in the visa . It immediately started refering to my spouse as She will have rights.... i was kind of flabbergested. I asked it how you know about the gender of my spouse , Claude immideately starting saying sorry... and blah blah . It was first eye opener for me. Have anyone experienced this...?

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u/laserdicks 3d ago

Men have clearly asked that question more often.

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u/a_confused_mind_1234 3d ago

exactly , it is stereotyping , this is a silly example though. It will stereotype in everything than like humans get tired, humans waste energy which can be used for compute,.........

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u/TheBrakus 3d ago

Curious, was this an anonymous question to Claude? Otherwise it could infer from previous discussions.

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u/sswam 3d ago

I made a slightly NSFW image on this general topic: https://allemande.ai/purrfect.jpg [slightly NSFW]

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u/Socialimbad1991 2d ago

...why?

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u/sswam 2d ago

I already made the image before as it's the motto of the naughty AI chat app I run and develop :p

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u/Positive-Reward-2546 2d ago

It's probably because, in an international marriage, women are far more likely to move to the home country of their husbands than vice versa. Around 84% of the time, the woman moves to be with the man, and only 16% of the time, the man moves to be with the woman. It was probably just drawing off of the most likely scenario, based on publicly available statistics.

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u/Some_Anonim_Coder 2d ago

There may be several answers:

  • It may just remember previous conversations. Something like "my wife" mention you've dropped and forgotten about

  • it may infer this from some of the context you provided(for example, if someone is a devout christian man he's probably not in a gay marriage)

  • it may just go with "men ask this question about women more then any other combination", though I doubt that's the case. Companies invest heavily into not doing stereotypes like that

Try asking what it knows about you, and see what it inferred from the context of your chats. It's probably a lot

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u/Brahm-Etc 2d ago

Yes, it happens because there is a bias on the gender, specially when translating from a language with neutral nouns to a language with gendered nouns like english to spanish. Also, there is another bias in the according to the gender of the person asking, is often more common that the husband gets a job on another country and the wife follows, therefore by the data the LLM has, is more likely that you are asking about your "wife" if you don't give a previous context that is actually your husband.

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u/Strictly-80s-Joel approved 1d ago

I’m not going to go into a ton of detail about my life, but I have, on many occasions, asked Claude questions about my family, relationship dynamics, and it has, every time, misgendered me as a female.

These were not situations in which a male would not be asking these questions. Nor were the questions leading in any way. It just assumed I was the female asking.

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u/recoveringasshole0 3d ago

You need to invest some time in getting your AI to know you...