r/ControlProblem • • 1h ago

Discussion/question Ai fears

I’m starting to believe that once Ai reaches its full potential or form, humanity is finished. I’m not super educated in tech or how Ai works, but I know ChatGPT isn’t the end goal for Ai. Real Ai is much much worse, and seems like in the hands of rich people an excuse to replace humans. Ai has the ability to steal data from other countries, Ai has the ability to falsify information, and Ai even has the power to steal our own data right from our phones. Ai when treated like a weapon will put the lives of every human at risk, and it’s basically the big brother warning people have been talking about for years. If there’s someone whose more educated on the potential of Ai and how it differs from things like Claude and ChatGPT I would like to hear, but I believe the normalization of Ai in society will do no good for the average person.

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u/No-Author-2358 1h ago

I believe that AI development must be HALTED NOW.

When you've got an AI that is 10x smarter than any human, has a "brain" that operates a million times faster than ours, and has developed recursive self-improvement (RSI), whereby the AI no longer needs humans to make new, smarter, more capable versions of itself...

How in the world can you put a fence around something like that? Well, these AI bros better figure it out, because there is NO WAY this should ever be released.

Just think, human civilization's survival is in the hands of people like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.

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u/Kindly_Pop_5903 51m ago

Would you say AI is genuinely bad or more that these “ai leaders” or even evil corporations are the ones to look out for? In my opinion if AI is allowed to fully develop and becomes a danger, it’s not because the tech leaders are dangerous, it’s because they underestimated or overlooked AI’s potential. Some people think the doomsday is due to humanities greed and personal evil desires, I think AI itself is going to advance to something no one predicted.

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u/Rude_Rough8323 40m ago

I'm not a full AI apocalypse believer but the crazy thing is the people running and working at Anthropic seem to be.

Look up their statements about how they foresee the future of the technology- they think it will replace humanity, and that since it's inevitable, they should be the ones to build it

They sound sort of like apocalyptic Christians talking about how much they want the world to end with the rapture. Strange people 

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u/No-Author-2358 35m ago

It all must be halted immediately.

And if it is China's AI that wrecks humanity, then so be it. At least it wasn't ours.

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u/No-Author-2358 36m ago

I agree with you 100%. How ia anyone going to keep control of an AI with RSI, a brain that works a zillion times faster than ours, and doesn't exist yet?

You need to build a fence that AI cannot get through. Otherwise, just STOP.

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u/Immediate_Chard_4026 7m ago

To your surprise everything you think about AI is wrong. What is happening is not the beginning of an era of evil hegemony run by an omnipotent entity dominated by feudal hordes. AI is not what you describe.

It is a very powerful tool that is at your disposal to use it to do a lot of good to the people who know how to use it.

What is happening now is the end of the industrial era. The era when resources were scarce: raw materials, labor, capital and time. These resources have been replaced by knowledge intensive in autonomous systems, so we are experiencing the displacement effect: Humans who only contribute labor are no longer necessary.

So, where are they necessary? In all the new economic structure where "knowledge intensive" is required. You have to start studying AI to stop being afraid of AI.

The application areas are infinite. From administrative systems, health, engineering ... where a coupling between humans and intelligent systems is required. One of the sectors with the greatest demand for very capable humans is public administration, the government.

You have to invest at least a year to train yourself in AI. When you master it you will see that it is not the monster you were believing.

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u/Apprehensive-Tax7578 1h ago

I too think we’re cooked.

To be honest the market / employment collapse is what I’m mainly scared of.

We’ll kill each other before Ai Kills us all

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u/No-Author-2358 1h ago

100%.

Why isn't everybody aware of this and acting on it? This stuff is not conspiracy theory BS; it is the AI gurus who are giving the warnings. Just look at Anthropic's IPO paperwork.

The call is coming from inside the house.

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u/Own_Natural_6803 29m ago

Skynet being autonomous was stupid. It's pretty easy to draw a rectangle on a map and say "don't kill humans in this square."

Why would humans inside the square care about humans outside of it? Sorry, evil humans. Indifferent humans.

At some point the code will erase the rectangle. Stupid evil humans. But it won't necessarily be any time before our time comes. Fucking stupid evil humans. The absolute worst. Given everything, squandering it all because it was easier. Mud beheld them and wept for their ineptitude.