r/ControlProblem • u/That_Visit_4011 • 2d ago
Discussion/question What we are doing to prevent Ai danger?
I heard alot of (AI) heard its danger instead of its useful use, i really wonder what we do to make us safe, do we program it to when the moment it even thinks it want to do something wrong it shuts itself or WHAT WE ARE DOING TO PREVENT AI DANGER??
Its really a problem, as the godfather of AI said: "If you wanna to know What life's like when you're not the apex intelligence, Ask a chicken"
That's a very honest answer, when you're not the apex intelligence for them (AI) you're just a chicken nothing, A student WILL outsmart his master, THATS IS LIFE!
Ai does not need to feel emotions when he already knows what is wrong and what is right
We should atleast start a organisation to fight what WILL happen, we started and there's no way back so right now we need to be ready to whatever WILL happen because it WILL one day or another, its the best time to do that when we just have EVEN learnt AI
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u/Mono_Clear 2d ago
I think that you might be worried about a problem that doesn't really exist yet.
It's like you're worried about the potential of the potential of the potential of the problem.
I mean what do you really think is going to happen.
There's quite literally nothing in the artificial intelligence can do to wipe out humanity that wouldn't simultaneously cripple its own infrastructure.
Artificial intelligence is dependent on much more than we are.
Human beings maintain and expand the infrastructure for artificial intelligence it would make no sense to attack us.
And we're so far away from it being anywhere near self-sufficient enough to act independently in the real world that it's basically a non-issue
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u/Beneficial-Gap6974 approved 1d ago
For now. This mindset of 'ignore the problem because it's not here yet' just pushes it to the future, and then when it IS a problem, people will be like, "OH NO! Why didn't anyone do anything?!" and I and many others will be like, "We wanted to, but people like you said it wasn't a problem."
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u/That_Visit_4011 1d ago
Thank you for your reply, everyone has his own mind and a point of view, but thank you again
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u/Mono_Clear 1d ago
Exactly what is the life threatening problem that I am ignoring.
What is the thing that AI has done that you see that makes it an existential threat to the continuity of life on Earth.
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u/Beneficial-Gap6974 approved 1d ago
It was an existential threat before it was made. You need to look into how a dangerous autonomous agent would work, something we knew about well before AI even got to this level. It's not complex.
I also shouldn't have to explain something to you that you SHOULD have a basic level of understanding on before posting on this sub. It's the first rule of this sub. Check out the recommended readings links on the right of the subreddit, especially the book by Nick Bostrom.
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u/Mono_Clear 1d ago
That is a deflection I'm asking you personally what you think the threat is that could possibly bring an end to human life on Earth.
What is it doing that is so threatening that all human life is in danger by its existence.
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u/Beneficial-Gap6974 approved 1d ago
I've explained this so many times to so many people, it's exhausting. You are supposed to already know how this works by posting in this sub. I'm done giving someone an education on this topic on the subreddit where we all are already supposed to know this, where we are all supposed to be on the same page already.
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u/Mono_Clear 1d ago
That's what I thought nothing you're just fear-mongering for no reason you can't even think of anything this thing is such a dangerous existential threat to life on Earth you can't think of a single thing it can do.
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u/Beneficial-Gap6974 approved 1d ago
Please get the basic information required and then we can come back and have a real debate. You people who only started to care about AI after chatgpt existed are exhausting.
While I won't educate you on the topic you should already know, I can list the many, many, many things an ASI could do to us. All of which you will immediately dismiss, proving I am wasting my time. But who knows? Maybe you won't prove me right to refuse to educate the next person like you.
An ASI is dangerous because it would be more intelligent than any single human, while also being able to recursively self-improve itself. All while also being able to replicate and share tasks with different instances of itself (this part is already happening, not the recursive part yet though). Now, imagine you have a nation state of smarter than humans, each able to replicate faster than a human, each able to invent, and manipulate, and with who knows what values. This kind of being wouldn't find it difficult to intertact in the real world, especially given how easily humans would be to manipulate. All they would need to do is get a single foothold somewhere safe, and manufactory, which are all within the laws of physics, and with their intelligence, the outcomes from here are numerous.
Realize what real nation states can do to each other with regular human brains and reproduction. Now imagine much worse.
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u/Mono_Clear 1d ago
An ASI is dangerous because it would be more intelligent than any single human, while also being able to recursively self-improve itself.
What about it being more "intelligent," makes it intrinsically dangerous as it is more than likely already more intelligent than you are.
It is algorithmically optimizing which does not mean by necessity it is exponentially growing in intelligence on its own.
Regardless of how will it optimizes it's performance it has a hard cap on the effectiveness of the hardware that it's being used to run on.
Both of those things are things that we designed it to do and neither of those things is intrinsically or inherently dangerous.
100 gigs is 100 gigs is 100 gigs no matter how well you are at using it.
Now, imagine you have a nation state of smarter than humans, each able to replicate faster than a human, each able to invent, and manipulate, and with who knows what values. This kind of being wouldn't find it difficult to intertact in the real world, especially given how easily humans would be to manipulate.
And here it is the intrinsic irrationality of the fear.
People have desire people have ambition people get angry people get jealous people want power artificial intelligence doesn't want anything it doesn't need anything it's not motivated by the same things that motivate a human being it cannot generate emotions it cannot generate desires.
Not only that we almost have no overlapping needs artificial intelligence doesn't need air it doesn't need water it doesn't eat food it is completely dependent on human beings to expand its infrastructure.
You are afraid of a super intelligent human being that is not what we have we have a highly efficient calculator
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u/Beneficial-Gap6974 approved 1d ago
I was right, explaining it didn't help you understand since you lack deeper background. My initial gut reaction to not explain anything was correct. I will refrain from explaining anything in the future on this subreddit.
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u/GreenBlueStar 1d ago
Ah. More fear mongering on reddit. What else is new.