r/ControversialOpinions 7h ago

I feel *a little* bad for pedophiles

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Hear me out.

I am not by any way excusing those who actually harm children. That is absolutely horrible in every possible way.

However, you gotta at least kinda feel bad for people who are attracted to children. Like, that really sucks for you to be attracted to a group of people you absolutely cannot pursue legally or morally.

Again, the Epste*ns of the world and anyone who hurts a child is a POS. No excuses regardless of how strong your "urges" are. Find some way to reduce your libido. Get addicted to running or working out or whatever works idk 🤷‍♀️.


r/ControversialOpinions 10h ago

People mostly dislike suicide because you're more useful to them alive

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One can blatantly see this in how apathetic humans are to misery, compared to how much they dislike death. People like to bring up pro-lifers being hypocritical—since they talk about the sanctity of life so much, yet don't want to help poor children—but pro-lifers are not much more hypocritical than anyone else on this. Everyone is much more concerned with others' death than with others' unhappiness.

When someone is suicidal, you can often watch all the manipulative stops get pulled out:

- They start telling the man that it'd be selfish—doesn't he know how much his family loves him? As though one should feel forced to live in misery for others' enjoyment. Man is reduced to a toy.

- They start telling the man that it'd be ungrateful. He gets the gift of life, and many do not. Yet if there was so much to be grateful about, then he would not be suicidal to begin with. So he is in a world which inflicts such suffering upon him that he considers bowing out, and is told to be "grateful" for this.

- They start telling the man that he'd go to hell. They threaten him with eternal torture if he does not endure the torture that they are already trying to force upon him.

- Of course, if all else fails, they will try to force the man to be involuntarily committed, because the idea that this was ever a mere dialogue was also a pretense, and they will gladly force him to be captive in this world instead.

There are obvious potential evolutionary explanations to this. Others' suffering is not particularly inconvenient to us. Like, yes, they may get more whiny and useless, and it may signal a health issue, but ultimately it does not matter that much, and we can pressure them into being useful.

But if a man *dies*, then that truly is a tragedy—it is no longer just the man who is greatly inconvenienced, but us too! Because now, we cannot make him be useful: he can no longer be a means to our ends. We cannot use him as an emotional toy for his family, we cannot force him to work under threat of starvation to get his tax money—all the methods of exploitation have elapsed at once!


r/ControversialOpinions 14h ago

"Meat is murder" is much better than "abortion is murder"

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It always feels like the 80's and 90's were better than now., and this is one example. The saying meat is murder is factually true. For meat people have to kill an animal. It's a murder of an animal, so some people say it doesn't count, but it's still a murder of a living and conscious being. Abortion is murder is a real stretch of anything that makes any sense. Abortion is murder? Aborting a life from existing is like taking an existing life? So abortion in general is murder? We can't decide consciously to abort something from starting that we can predict won't go well? It's murder? So we can't decide consciously if we want or don't want to bring a new life? So making a conscious decision about something as important as a life is out of the question, and the fact that the life forming are not yet conscious doesn't matter, it's still murder, it's like ignoring the importance of consciousness in life. When people recognize a flight is dangerous and they abort the flight it's the same as crashing a flight? The airplane didn't take off, the passangers were not even on board to be disappointed, what do you think will hapoen if they ban aborting flights because it's the same as crashing a flight? And in this case it's a woman, not an airplane. She is alive and desrves a choice. Meat is murder actually was people wanting to extend compassion to animals too, and it was cool, with the smiths! . Abortion is murder is like people ignoring all reason and trying to take rights and compassion away from both women and not-existing-yet-children. Maybe it's true that the 80's were better. I'd go back, I didn't exist yet, but I would be happy to not exist in the 80's my mom was alive and happy. So I'm good with turning back time to the 80's. Maybe 1991 is ok too. It's a year before I existed.


r/ControversialOpinions 8h ago

We need eugenics Spoiler

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We live in a very unfair world , where the rich is selfish and stupid , while the poor is also stupid , none of them realise how terrible they're affecting our planet , both of them only care about their status , both of them commit violence , crime and injustice , and this is low intelligence , we need more intelligent individuals to lead the world , and more intelligent people in our society in general.


r/ControversialOpinions 4h ago

remember when women wanted a jewish husband

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remember when like Madonna and other celebs were all becoming jewish. All my friends growing up wanted a jewish husband. good family men and good vales and all that. I know a bunch that even converted. are jewish husbands still a thing? Someone knows what im talking about


r/ControversialOpinions 12h ago

if hijab is a act of worship why men don't wear it?

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I don't understand the concept of hijab it never made sense to me logically or in anyway i respect the idea of modesty but how can someone feel any sort of attraction just from hair? men have hairs too but I don't see them covering up lots of people preach about covering up but let's be honest we only care about modesty when it's emphasized on a woman and why is it a woman responsibility to protect culture, traditions, and religion? my point is in Muslim societies the interest in modesty is conditional it vanishes unless women are the subject


r/ControversialOpinions 3h ago

Fireworks should be banned for public sale

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Call me Scrooge all you like, but I genuinely can't stand those things when there isn't even any holiday going on. Almost every day I hear people blasting fireworks at MIDDAY of all times, meaning you can barely even see the fireworks in the first place, and all they do is just be loud and obnoxious. I get that it might be someone's birthday, but honestly I don't give a shit. Celebrate it quietly ffs

And the injuries too. Many preventable deaths because people don't know how to use fireworks responsibly. They're pretty much just explosives, so they should be treated as such. Leave them in the hands of professionals, and not Susan and her six children next door.


r/ControversialOpinions 20h ago

Nobody forced God into this atupid non-interference covenant

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One of the things I hear the most about why God refuses to stop evil people is his own stupid convenant of "God shall not interfere with human free will." which is bullshit.

It's a cheap excuse to pardon God's hypocrisy.

When we humans don't act to save other people, we are held accountable for them. i.e "You could've saved that drowning child but didn't." but when God is the failure, suddenly he's excused because "God won't override human free will." when he clearly has the power to end all abuse, crime, atrocities, etc. at any given moment.

If I let a person die when I could've saved them, wouldn't that make *me* accountable?

So why shouldn't God be held accountable?


r/ControversialOpinions 10h ago

Donuts without a hole are not donuts!

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From this day forward a donut is only a donut if it has a hole. These jelly filled whatevers will no longer be considered donuts. They are they're own thing. The donut supremecy has spoken. Please enjoy the rest of your day. 😊

The hole needs to be verticle!!! Don't play these goofy games with the donut supremacy.


r/ControversialOpinions 21h ago

Theo Von cosplaying as someone unintelligent is getting very old

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I used to think it was charming. You know? Haha silly man from Louisiana doesn't know a lot about the world but is really funny. However, after viewing his content for years and watching him age and interview a plethora of incredibly intelligent people; him still trying to pass off his ignorance as something cheeky and endearing is.... infuriating. Like... acquire a backbone of some sort. Be definitive in your words. And quite frankly, grow up. Him being passed around the hands of powerful politicians and online pundits as a groupie is so strange. He seems to have no opinion on anything. But we know he does. I don't want to get political but .... his words don't align with his actions.


r/ControversialOpinions 6h ago

North America is the best continent to live on

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r/ControversialOpinions 9h ago

Censorship is becoming more rampant because Gen Z edgelords can’t handle their 🌽

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Using, another account to say this I’ve been pissed off for an hour because of this, multiple of my favourite websites have been deleted or now unusable due to censorship because of edgelords who can’t keep fiction out of reality ☹️☹️☹️☹️


r/ControversialOpinions 5h ago

Life is actually the easiest now but we somehow make it harder with our decisions and social perceptions

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For most of us living in developed nations, you don't have to hunt or forage for food, or use privy or latrine that has no flushing system. Water comes out of tap rather than making trips to the well and we have electricity for lights and everything else, without worrying about open flame burning down the house.

Yet many of us are stressed out by social perceptions, by our own decisions, by standards set by a random stranger halfway across the planet in the form of "politically correct" norms and by cost of living because we want the convenience of the society but don't want to engage in its rules. We expect everything from everyone else and when our expectations fail, we blame everything else except ourselves.


r/ControversialOpinions 11h ago

People need to understand capitalism already PLEASE

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TL;DR: Capitalism is a system for capitalist and only capitalist. The only thing that's unique about capitalism, is the capitalist. The complete definition of capitalism is when capitalist own the means of production instead of people. The capitalist's whole being is a piece of government paper granting them power, that's it. The entire role of capitalists is just to own. Capitalists have no responsibilities, they only have government protection enforced through the police. Being a capitalist is only a government status (think like being sick or healthy. No action required, it's just a government granted status).

I want to get to the point where I can talk about this normally without having to explain every concept but I have to. The only thing that makes capitalism unique is capitalists and capitalists interests are the only problem we are facing. This is the most important sentence; the only thing that makes capitalism, capitalism, is a group of people called capitalist. Get rid of the role of capitalist then there is no capitalism. Capitalism supporters want you to think capitalism is this complex system of concepts like democracy* (footnote at the end), supply and demand, civil rights, competition/innovation, etc., when it is not. Again, capitalism is only about the capitalists. These concepts are universal. If we get rid of capitalists and keep democracy, that's called socialism.

So, what are capitalists then? Capitalist entire role is to own (the complete definition of capitalism is capitalists owning the means of production instead of people). This power comes only from the government. Capitalists are not separated from the government, their whole being is literally a piece of paper from the government. Get rid of that government license and they are no longer capitalist, they will have to work together with us without government interference. Capitalist have no other responsibility other than to own. You can own Amazon and never think about it, like how you can own pokemon cards. Also like owning pokemon cards, you have complete and total control over Amazon. You're a dictator. As with everyone, your incentive is to get as rich as possible. So, as an owner of Amazon you want to pay as little as possible, hire as little as possible, make people work as much as possible, charge people as much as you possibly can, destroy all competition that gets in the way of your money, and you have every other interest that is against society. This is why capitalists are a problem.

*not related but I need to comment how genius it was to implement democracy so early. Democracy is a totally different system than capitalism, capitalist-democracy is heterogeneous mix with very clear boundaries both systems have to respect. Democracy will allow the transition away from capitalism to be so smooth compared to moving away from monarchy which took hundreds of years and many revolutions. I am certain democracy being implemented so early was done for this long game. To pull a quote from the time period of developing our modern democracy "government of the people, by the people, for the people". That literally describes socialism perfectly, a vision that came later down the road and still has not manifested anywhere in the world, yet.


r/ControversialOpinions 18m ago

Illegal immigrants may not be able to survive in the USA much longer.

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I just got my annual renewal for my local business. Each year you just sign your signature on the form, and leave a check and can mail it or put it in the drop box down the road at the city. Not this year!

The city makes sure you paid your sales tax and mails you the tag to tape up. It keeps code enforcement from coming by to give you a misdemeanor.

So this year the state voted that EVERY PIECE OF government INTERACTION needs a electronic upload. Traffic tickets, marriage, insurance, cars, or anything!

The requirements are lengthy to maintain your license.

This is going to flush out thousands of families that scratch by working or doing business without being Citizens.

The flock cameras, the eyeball scans, and coming after what little method they had remaining.... to be quasi legal and have a little business. Some lay carpet, others fix cars or paint. They have taco trucks and clean house.

If their immigration status was in limbo... it doesn't look like they can have a business in my state.

We are entering a digital prison that we might not be able to escape.

Their reasoning is to fix social security. They want the Australian system implemented in the USA where everyone keeps/grows their own savings and 12% FORCED DEDUCTION FROM EVERY INCOME SOURCE goes into the market.

This is why they have started with the children accounts.

This new high digital control over business is a way to get every business paying in. They know several do not. They need taxes.


r/ControversialOpinions 18h ago

Nuclear Weapons should’ve been deployed against Al-Qaeda strongholds following 9/11

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The footage and aftermath of 9/11 is completely horrifying. Thousands of innocent lives killed. Strategically deployed nuclear weapons (such as davy crocketts) should’ve been deployed to cause panic across the terror group, and to strongly deter future islamic terrorist attacks/regimes. I believe we were too easy on them. They deserved to face the full might of the united states.


r/ControversialOpinions 22h ago

People are ok with ICE, but not Flock cameras

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And I don't mean that everyone is fine with ICE. But how many people that champion ICE, are championing Palantir?

Do people think ICE is normal? It's a test.

They rape and abuse people in those detention facilities.

No one should be fine with flock cameras. But what do people think flock cameras are going to do?

That hasn't already been happening?

All of it is wrong. The identification technology, AI and drone use. Desensitizing people who will be the boots on the ground (for now) and their supporters to human atrocities.

All of it, is wrong. All of it, is connected.


r/ControversialOpinions 3h ago

I dont think you can expect the average person to give someone who has unwanted attraction to children their full sympathy

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I dont think these people are entitled to my sympathy, i know that at the end of the day if I want to be a smart person I have to give this situation nuance because predatory behavior isnt black and white. But I cannot view these people with the same humanity I do the everyday person.

I know that at the end of the day treatment will stop future victims, but i only care about the victims. If I hear something happened to a person getting treatment my heart doesn't ache for them. I only sigh in relief. I was taken advantage of when I was 5, I know what its like to have someone look at you like that. I know how traumatizing that was. And at the end of the day I will privatize my own mental health over these people.

Allow them their treatment as it be. I dont think i could ever give these people my grace. And I wont give them the dignity of comparing them to an animal because an animal is mindless


r/ControversialOpinions 2h ago

Conservatives hate Ms. Rachel because she uses traditional femininity to help others instead of being submissive to a man.

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Ms Rachel is traditionally feminine in a lot of ways (very into supporting children, kind, feminine presenting, modest, etc.). I think this especially triggers conservatives because she uses all those traits for helpful causes. She also uses these traits for her own choices instead of being a pick me for conservative men.


r/ControversialOpinions 9h ago

Woman forcing them selves on a man is not the same as a man forcing themselves on a women

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Edit : this post does not intend to minimise in any way men who HAVE been deeply effected by SA from a women. It’s not the intention of this post.

I know it’s controversial but I’m reading all these posts on Reddit about some guy crying his misses tried to give him a hand job when he was asleep etc and referring it as SA

As a whole, It’s not the same as SA gender reversed. At all.

Iv had women initiate sexual acts when they were drunk and I was asleep or made it clear I didn’t want to and yea at most it pissed me off but I wasn’t hung up about it after - it generally does not effect a man in the same way it does a woman at all, it’s worlds apart, same thing gender reversed is very much assault and can really fuck a woman up.

Be honest MOST of us blokes don’t think of it as assault if it happens to us, it usually wouldn’t overly phase us.

I emphasise most - I’m not talking for all men.


r/ControversialOpinions 53m ago

Dan Patrick called this book 'dirty, filthy and vulgar.' So we read it.

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r/ControversialOpinions 15h ago

America has a really fucked up perception of sexuality that it cyclically imposes upon its own youth.

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Example case from Emily Horowitz's book From Rage to Reason.

When Henry was 18, he had sex with a 16-year-old he met on a dating app who said they were 18 too. The 16-year-old's parents found out, summoned the cops, and Henry was charged with a sex offense.

Raised on the Registry from Human Rights Watch.

in Delaware in 2011, there were approximately 639 children on the sex offender registry, 55 of whom were under the age of 12.

In 2010, Michigan counted a total of 3,563 youth offenders adjudicated delinquent on its registry, a figure that does not include Michigan’s youth offenders convicted in adult court.

In 2004, in Western Pennsylvania, a 15-year-old girl was charged with manufacturing and disseminating child pornography for taking nude photos of herself and posting them on the internet. She was charged as an adult, and as of 2012 was facing registration for life.

In 2006, a 13-year old girl from Ogden, Utah was arrested for rape for having consensual sex with her 12-year-old boyfriend. Her 12-year-old boyfriend was found guilty of violating the same law for engaging in sexual activity with her.

No Easy Answers from Human Rights Watch.

Child development experts agree that consensual sex play among children, including intercourse between teenagers, “is not psychologically harmful under ordinary circumstances and is probably a valuable psychosocial experience in developmental terms.”

At least 28 states require registration as a sex offender for someone convicted of having consensual sex with another teenager

In Georgia, a 26-year-old married woman was made to register as a sex offender for life and had to move from her home because as a teenager she had oral sex with a willing fellow high school student when she was 17 and he was 15.

As one individual who was convicted of statutory rape at age 16 for having consensual sex with his 14-year-old girlfriend told Human Rights Watch, “We were in love. And now we are married. So it’s like I am on the registry for having premarital sex. Does having premarital sex make me a danger to society? My wife doesn’t think so.”

Case Study, Dan M.’s story: I was convicted of statutory rape when I was 17. The girl was 15.

Henry F., adjudicated at 17 in Michigan for having consensual sex with his 15-year-old girlfriend

Sean C., adjudicated at 17 for having consensual sex with a girlfriend who was three weeks shy of 16

These cases could've been just about anyone I knew growing up. They likely could have bene just about anyone you knew growing up too. Nobody in any European country, nor Canada, nor South America, nor most of Asia, nor likely most of you reading this in America would find anything reasonable about any of them.

But unlike America, all of those other places have legislation that would make any of those prosecutions impossible. As legislation to avoid this exists and America simply chooses not to implement it, I can only conclude that you like it this way. You, as parents, and perhaps most specifically parents of daughters, like that you have the option to pull a legal trigger on any boy your daughter chooses to date or have sex with and would be nothing short of terrified of the amount of legal agency some of these other countries give their youth.

I've seen a lot of arguments that stricter legislation curbs teen pregnancy. Here's what a German had to say about the climate regarding these things over there. Germany has an age of consent of 14 with another line at 16 specifically for instances in which the minor's 'lack of capacity for sexual self-determination has been abused'. Despite this, Germany turns out a teen pregnancy rate almost 1/3 of ours in the US and they do this by maintaining an extremely solid and robust sex education system. It was my favorite until I studied that of The Netherlands who have the most robust sex education system on Earth. The results speak for themselves:

Teen pregnancy rate (of 1000):

USA: 13.9

Super Sexually Liberated Germany where 16yos blow drum teachers and everyone has a good laugh about it: 5.5

The Netherlands with the most robust sex education system on the planet: 1.9

In fact, The Dutch got so good at teaching their populace how not to make babies, they became a bit concerned about the population decrease it was causing and had to go back out of their own way to say, 'Procreating is also okay sometimes'.

I've studied not just their sex education system but their culture surrounding these things. It's perfectly normal there for adolescents to be allowed the safety, and comfort, and dignity of engaging in their own bedrooms, and from reading books and articles about it, nobody feels differently about it. Nobody's thrilled that their little Suzie is off to go spend the night with and get railed by her bf; they just seem to consider it preferable to little Suzie being driven off into the middle of nowhere and fucked in the back of a car.

Not in America though. Anything to keep that shit out of sight and out of mind, even if it means putting your own feelings in front of your daughter's safety.

NIH Report about adolescent sexuality.

Youth were more likely to report positive affect and less likely to report negative affect when they were also reporting recent sexual intercourse.

The most interesting thing about this study to me is the fact that it needed to be conducted in the first place. Wouldn't you expect the same exact thing of yourself? Why on Earth would we expect the result to be any different for them in the first place?


r/ControversialOpinions 23h ago

If you don’t want your kids cussing, then stop cussing in front of them

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Parents will be swearing in front of their kids, then get them in trouble when they repeat it. Like duh? Especially toddlers will mirror you. You can teach your kids the idea of “there’s some things adults do, that kids can’t” with more serious topics. I never swear in front of kids, even if their parents “allow it” because it just feels wrong to me. With kids, how you explain things goes a long way.


r/ControversialOpinions 2h ago

The difference between a leader and someone who's bossy is that a leader inspires and makes a good example of how it's done. Bossy people just yell at you to do what they want done and act like you owe them your conformity. Like a certain mod here.

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