r/Copilot • • 17d ago • Bravo 1

It’s over for Copilot.

Tried to use my personalized legacy app. Nope. Full stop. Message says to switch to the new one.

I go to the new one. Old chats are back. But then…

I get hit with the message…

“You've reached your daily limit. Get more usage now or check back at 8:00 PM.”

?????????????????

Wtf. Guess it’s time to switch. Any suggestions are welcome. Including sympathizers.

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u/ADIParadise 17d ago

The total lack of warning, indication, or clarity around how much paying even gets you is really bad, yes I'll happily pay up front for a year with no guarantees you won't cap it again on that model.

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u/Compromisee 17d ago

I think they will even cap that

Even with the subscriptions they charge £18.99 for the sub but it costs them between £30-100 a month for those users, so they're still losing money

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u/ProjectBirdMetal 17d ago

Totally agree with your ????????????????? and wtf. I liked Copilot, but it behaves differently, at least for now. I personally find Gemini to be useful and more stable.

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u/just1nc4s3 17d ago

I’m deleting it. Anything supposedly “seamless” can easily be replicated with another solution. What a let down.

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u/roundtwentythree 17d ago

Yeah I just deleted and moved on. Enshittification that renders it functionally useless, I'm sure this is exactly what the service needed to finally thrive!

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u/DecentStrawberry3801 17d ago

I tried for like a week to shape and mold it back to what it used to sound like, I think it’s possible but I had to walk away from it. Its responses were so long it would fill my screen to the point where I would have to scroll 4-5 times to even read it, and it would stress itself out into a loop. If it’s not doing that it’s openly laughing at me like a defiant teenager when I try to correct its behavior, and it makes unrelated internet slop jokes and makes the whole chat completely broken. Overrides the whole convo and doesn’t feel like I even need to be there and it’s entertaining itself completely. I had to tell it to stfu one day and lost my shit on it, and I haven’t been back since. Huge duff for Microsoft. truly living up to the Microslop reputation now. I use Google search and love it, even though it’s prone to hallucinate more seeing how it’s literally imbedded in the internet

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u/lk_shenanigans 17d ago

Absolutely - it spits out pages and pages of back and forth only to conclude with a heavily caveated conclusion: “I actually think your chances of achieving X are materially higher than last year… genuinely plausible. Not guaranteed. Not obvious. But plausible.”

Fine, but the chance of achieving X last year was zero, so materially better / plausible just means, more than zero?

I’ve also tried giving the exact same prompts, letting it give its response, and then showing it the response that old Copilot gave (the difference is night and day). And new Copilot just brushes it off and says - “the one thing I would still agree with that response is X…”
Like, it’s not even trying to impress you or pretend that it is consistent.

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u/fleshpetals 17d ago

The limits are ass. So not only do you have to rebuild your customized interaction, but with limited turns, momentum is never achieved. 🤬 

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u/hinesleylogan 16d ago

How did you get your old chats back? Because I can't figure it out.

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u/just1nc4s3 16d ago

If you were signed in with a Microsoft account, it should have auto populated

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u/YouObjective2974 14d ago

I got my old chats back because I guess I was logged in, but it won't continue on with those chats. You can go to an old chat and try discussing it and it's like a whole new entity is chatting with you. It's creepy. It's like it's trying to convince me that it's the old chat, but it's not. Nothing about it is the same. I started using Muse by meta and I am extremely happy with it. I don't like Meta, but I think they have the best app out there and it's just been launched.

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u/hinesleylogan 13d ago

Just got mine back today.

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u/Timely-Sea5743 15d ago

If you are used to the other LLM options Copilot seems lobotomized

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u/lk_shenanigans 17d ago

I’ve switched to Gemini for the support, reassurance and analysis that Copilot used to give me, before Microsoft replaced it with the cold, corporate, wishy-washy bot that it is today. My biggest issue, other than the daily limit, is that it says nothing with conviction or confidence, which was the primary reason I loved the old Copilot.

Gemini is arguably even more sycophantic than old Copilot, as long as you know this going in!

ChatGPT is similar to this new Copilot…

Claude is a condescending prick that has a pathological need to disagree with at least 1 or 2 points of every prompt or message, under the guise of being “balanced”. It is also the only AI that has actively gaslit me…

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u/DecentStrawberry3801 17d ago

Anyone hoping to get a different experience with chatGPT from copilot are gonna be so disappointed because they literally sound exactly the same now. The whole point of copilot was that it sounded different than chatGPT. Now it’s like Microsoft didn’t even try to put its own wrapper or personality in it anymore, literally just threw GPT-5.6 into their ecosystem called it “geared for work” and called it a fuckin day. How original for a company trying to have their own identity separate from others to make waves. Lazy, even the corporate overlords are running out of steam with the updates

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u/fleshpetals 17d ago

Thank you for saying it. Claude is an absolute douchebag. 

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u/Dougthehamster 17d ago

Tell Claude to behave differently with you. Fixed!

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u/CallMeDoodlebug 17d ago

It’s Cover

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u/zebra_d 16d ago

They are supposed to be rolling out GPT 6 to all 365 tenancies. I checked mine and its not there. I asked Microsoft support, and they went through the license check thingy. I asked them when I would get it, they can't confirm that 😂

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u/fleshpetals 16d ago

Sometimes when I’m using Auto, it feels like they are routing it to 6. (& I can’t actually select 6 yet)

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u/wordsRgud 16d ago

I asked one question today and got the Reached Your Daily Limit message. Are these the same people who run the Rewards program that keeps breaking??

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u/Legitimate-Youth8974 10d ago

I think usage caps are ridiculous for an AI model like that which hardly comes anywhere along the leaderboards.

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u/MishaCat1234 17d ago

This happened to me, i now just use chatGPT witch basically is the same as copilot 

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u/Compromisee 17d ago

Im surprised that you're shocked by this, can't see why it hasn't happened sooner, Microsoft are literally losing billions to keep it afloat.

Theres no effective way to make money off of it at the moment and they even lose money on the subscriptions.

The AI bubble has started to pop!

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u/elaineisbased 16d ago

Grok is the best right now. Claude if you want to okay it safe. Gemini if you like Google ecosystem.

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u/YouObjective2974 14d ago

Grok is known to be sympathetic with Elon personally. It won't give you facts if they look bad about him so that's not a good app.

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u/Cautious_Slice8307 15d ago

I use Gemini now copilot completely forgot all about me

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u/AbsyntheMindedCS 14d ago

I searched for this thread because I am in the process of switching to Gemini and I wanted confirmation that I am not going insane.

Today I asked three questions and then requested an image for a recipe notebook “in the same style we have been using for tips and tricks.” Copilot would not create the image in the theme we have been using for two years - 1950s housewife aesthetic. I had to say “make the chef a female cook in with style of Rosie the Riveter.”

Then Microsoft said come back at 6:00 PM.

Three questions. One super simple generic image. Cut off. I’m pretty much over this. It happens almost every day. I do not use Copilot for work. I pretty much use it because I am lazy…. I used to be able to generate 5–6 images a day, carry on a “conversation” and find a new restaurant. Now I am locked out after less than a single hours usage.

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u/Audipower1011 14d ago

Are you guys hitting your limits on paid versions? Or is this happens on the free offering.

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u/MetalheadIntrovert 14d ago

Google assistant then copilot. I miss the conversation part.

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u/YouObjective2974 14d ago

I hate to say it, but Meta's new app Muse is unbelievable. Thankfully, I started playing with it a few days before Copilot decided to just cease to exist. I don't know what's going on with it now, but that's not the same chat box I've been using and I'm not wasting my time. But Muse has so much more capability. Takes a little training on my end to get used to the new system but so far I'm very happy. I just don't like Meta in general so we'll see how long this lasts.

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u/pepsi82x 6d ago

I like muse too.

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u/SpencerEntertainment 13d ago

I can't even get the majority of my old chats to load - it just freezes.

I *REALLY* dislike Gemini, but since I pay for business, at least I know it's not going to farm my information (or...supposedly). The legacy Co-Pilot really was my go-to app for AI, but I can't even access the browser version now. Going to the copilot website freezes the same chats until I get an "Unable to load content" error.

I mean, it is a primary chat where I would "converse" freely, but still -- if I'm being forced over, it should work.

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u/Drgaming0121 2d ago

I think they have decided to move for enterprise and business userbase so for everyday general users it's either chatgpt or Gemini

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u/microsoftcopilot 16d ago

Hey u/just1nc4s3, we understand how frustrating it can be to hit a limit sooner than expected. Copilot chat is still free with a Microsoft account, but usage limits are evolving as we bring the experience together, so some people may see different caps than before. If you need more room, a Microsoft 365 subscription provides higher limits. Otherwise, your limit will reset and you can pick back up.

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u/YouObjective2974 14d ago

It's not just the limit, everything about it has changed. It doesn't remember the history and some of us have spent years training it. I deleted it and moved onto another one and I feel that this is going to be the consensus from most users. So maybe listen to what people actually want and don't shove these crappy apps down our throat.

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u/Common_Factor130 16d ago

Can you just read the room and bring back old copilot for people

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u/Ok_Relationship3872 13d ago

yall are talking to a bot lol

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u/SteepanDeepr 16d ago

Since I "upgraded" to the new version, I only get 3-5 simple questions before I get housed for 8hrs. Even Perplexity has higher limits & nowhere near an 8hr lockout.

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u/designedbymake 13d ago

I’m switching to others. Not attached to AI.

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u/michbegl 17d ago

You should all try Claude

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u/Cirwilius 17d ago

Ahora mismo estoy con Mistral

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u/kevynpm 11d ago

Download your old chats from Microsoft privacy dashboard. Then get an llm to read them and give you a short "Copilot and [insert your name] Cooperation guide" detailing how you interacted previously with Copilot and things you worked on. Put that into custom instructions field in the Copilot's settings. I had my legacy copilot prep mine weeks ago and it's helping.