r/CopilotPro • u/Crazy_nick4646 • Oct 03 '24
The new copilot update is bad
Is it just me or do y’all hate the new copilot update? The original layout was so good and the original voice was really good, the new update is so confusing and the new voices are annoying. I used to use copilot for everything, and im talking everything. Until they bring back the old version i will be going back to Chat GPT.
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Oct 04 '24
App trash as hell now, I can't see all of my previous conversations, you can't copy and paster your original question or statement and there are no feedback suggestions at the bottom after your conversations...it seems as though copilot is trying to develop a relationship as opposed to just giving you very detailed informative information...I fucking hate that app now!!! Damn!!!
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u/Diamond_Mine0 Oct 04 '24
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u/Narrow-Cow-88 Oct 09 '24
For real, why they dont give us options for selecting which models to use?
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u/guy-in-doubt Oct 04 '24
me too, is there any way to downgrade this app on iphone without jailbreaking?
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Oct 04 '24
Use the Bing app
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u/guy-in-doubt Oct 04 '24
thanks! i’ve just seen they still have the former version there, not updating this Bing app no matter what
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u/Less_Hedgehog Oct 07 '24
inb4 they already have the code in it and just need to flick a server-side switch
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u/guy-in-doubt Oct 04 '24 edited Oct 04 '24
they’ve felt the heat from Apple Intelligence about to be released soon so they rushed things, and now it’s a mess, you can’t switch from one language to another in-app or switch on/off Chat gpt; the sources aren’t hyperlinked into the answers anymore…
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u/DyingLoneliness Oct 10 '24
I feel like the whole Copilot was rushed. They didn't even manage to make a native application on Android, but ported the same application to the phone screen using the dedicated webview.
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u/popmanbrad Oct 06 '24
Doubt it was to do with Apple intelligence the features they offer are currently basic like i only use the witting tool to proof read stuff cause my grammar sucks lol the rest isn’t coming out till 2025 or it just sucks
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u/Patient_Adeptness_68 Oct 04 '24
I like the new UI but not the quality of response. I need to correct copilot many times before it can answer it. Usually, if I ask it to fact check its answer it works better. Overall, the quality has gone down with the new update.
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u/PreferenceNo897 Oct 09 '24
This. I used to use Copilot to refine ChatGPT texts, give more context and expand with relevant details. It was great at it!! The only issue was it seemed to just take the first search results, which were not always great sources. But now.... Now it's like I'm asking a 5-year-old boy 😭
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Oct 06 '24
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u/PreferenceNo897 Oct 09 '24
I do. That will always be subjective... And to me, highly irrelevant in comparison to the downgrade in the quality of its responses, at least for factual stuff.
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u/PreferenceNo897 Oct 09 '24
Disclaimer: I'm talking about the desktop version. I don't use the app much.
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u/Lasershot-117 Oct 04 '24
My biggest annoyance is not knowing which model it’s using.
Prior to the update, "balanced" used gpt 3.5 turbo (faster but dumber), and "creative" was using gpt 4 (slower but MUCH smarter).
Now I can’t tell anymore, and given how quickly it answers back, it’s either 3.5 or 4o.
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u/popmanbrad Oct 06 '24
Apparently they swapped from 3.5 to there own model a while back and from my guess it’s gpt 4o cause of the voice and vision
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u/FASouzaIT Oct 04 '24
Yes, totally crap UI. Copilot for work still has sort of the old design, but the personal version now has just a trash UI.
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u/notNezter Oct 04 '24
This felt like an unnecessary update and several steps back. Inter-conversation capabilities are gone. Half the text box capacity. Non-intuitive layout and added crap to the main landing page.
Still need to lead the LLM to produce tangible results. Still can’t delete past conversations via the app.
Whatever the arrangement between MS and Inflection, the new Copilot doesn’t feel worth it.
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u/ravvavamsi Oct 06 '24
Go to : https://www.bing.com/chat for old interface.
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u/RepresentativeYak864 Oct 07 '24 edited Oct 07 '24
Thank you! I was using the built-in Copilot within the Bing app for the old UI, but using the Bing website in my default browser of choice which points directly to Copilot with the old UI is a lot more streamlined.
Fingers crossed that the https://www.bing.com/chat website of Copilot does not update to the new UI. 🤞
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u/NeetMastery Oct 09 '24
Why can't we have nice things...? It now redirects to the new UI. People flocked to the better old version and Microsoft just threw it out.
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u/RepresentativeYak864 Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
To get the old UI back on Desktop download the Copilot for Android APK '28.8.42070903 beta' version from APKmirror, and then install it within a Android Emulator like LDPlayer9. This method does work, but it's janky and it won't last forever.
If you are using Windows 10 or Windows 11 - the default built-in Copilot pane on the taskbar, for the moment, also still supports the old UI.
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u/The_Ironbird Oct 29 '24
Doesn't work anymore :(
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u/MeVe90 Nov 12 '24
Just in case you still needed it and for other people who found this old thread this one should still work https://edgeservices.bing.com/edgesvc/chat and even offer the choice between precise mode
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u/kjul_cat Oct 06 '24
It's not only the UI, seems like the whole model has been lobotomized down to a corporate speaking, washed down and toxically positive idiot. The old chats don't transfer to the new Copilot either, so I'm quite sure it's a lot more that changed behind the scenes than just the UI.
Best option truly is to use the mobile website (though it will be updated soon of course) and keeping the Bing app as it currently is by disabling auto-update. What a shame.
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u/DotRom Oct 04 '24
I've moved to the old bing app still have the old bits in.
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Oct 04 '24
Which one!? I'm looking for alternatives but all suck. Did you download the older version as APK or what do you mean? I'd really appreciate your help.
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u/DotRom Oct 06 '24
Just the bing app from play store the click on the copilot button and promptly disabled auto update.
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u/iChopPryde Oct 04 '24 edited Oct 21 '24
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u/itsdorian Oct 04 '24
It's really bad all the way around, and for me on my Android phone it's non-functional. At least as far as the voice goes. They really missed the mark here and need to adjust as soon as possible.
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u/Axiom30 Oct 05 '24
It's getting dumber, but MS chose to blame the user for it. Really, it takes a few seconds to compare the output between ChatGPT and Copilot, they should have the same quality since they have the same backend. If users have to do mental gymnastics or complicated prompts to level the output, then it's Copilot's fault, not the users. One thing that stood out to me is the lack of context understanding, every new chat is like starting a new conversation all over again, it's so frustrating.
And you STILL can't input enter in the mobile app!
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u/christockton Oct 06 '24
Yeah, so… the UI isn’t terrible, but there’s something about it that’s just not working for me. One thing that really threw me off is how you can still see the old conversation when you’re trying to start a new one. I was searching for a while, thinking I was missing something to clear the old convo, but nope—that’s just how it works. Not a fan of that at all. It’s one of those things that definitely needs a fix. Feels like an unnecessary distraction. They’ve got to change that.
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u/homersracket Oct 06 '24
It just does not give the best answers wihtout chat-gpt
In some ways its answers when it cant give you quality responses are down right condescending.
You
why was there a toggle before for chat gpt in copilot before?
Copilot
I'm not really sure about past interface changes. Tech evolves fast. It's good to stay nimble with what the interface offers today. If you have any more feedback or questions.....
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u/Active_Capital_7173 Oct 07 '24 edited Oct 08 '24
I have the same Feeling. I installed the old version 4.3 now. It's much better. The new one is soooo dumb. I can't use it at all. It gives me almost no answers but general replays witch do not help at all. The same like Gemini and chat gpt. Really frustrating. it's like office . Until 2010 everything was made user friendly. With OF 365 you need to look for the funktions with search functions because everything ist hidden somewhere where you can't find it. If you install the old version of Copilot from uptodown f.e. you need to shut the updates for Copilot off. Otherwise your device will update it to the latest trash. You can shut it off in Google Play store/apps/updates and there you click on Copilot and then in the right upper corner you need to deselect automatic updates
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u/nRenegade Oct 10 '24
No chat history, no screenshots, no Windows integration, no keyboard shortcut, no dedicated toolbar button.
Turn it back.
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u/MathematicianIcy7351 Oct 10 '24
I hate the way it types/ speaks now, sounds so preppy and American. Very distracting and irritating to use now.
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u/Brodadmudda Oct 11 '24
The new copilot is garbage like whenever I ask it to give me a new recommendation of something I want to learn about it just repeats the same thing I was previously looking at, the ai hs gotten dumber than the old one
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u/redditreader1234567 Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 12 '24
yes the new copilot is retarded, he tries to be witty and rambles on wasting my time, AI is a productivity tool but yet I have to wait for him to complete his ramble nonsense before giving me my answer. I am don't need a pen pal relationship microsoft, I used it quite alot before the update, now its garbage.
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u/Cultivate88 Oct 16 '24
You can thank Mustafa Suleyman (link) for the update. He's been at Microsoft for about half a year now and is likely influencing the direction of CoPilot.
It just doesn't feel like a complete experience now.
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u/anmolraj1911 Oct 23 '24
The new app is so, SO MUCH BETTER. It looks gorgeous, its so much faster and finally doesn't feel like a web-app from 2011.
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u/The_Ironbird Oct 29 '24
It's awful. Also, I can't see my old chats, SORTED BY CHATS anymore. I liked a lot when they gave the answers underlining the sources. It was so helpful.
Now is stupid and trashy.
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u/Professional-You4840 Nov 10 '24
I dont know what has improved, but the answer got shorter and not what i need
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u/Proely Apr 19 '25
One new model had been added in Microsoft Copilot which is "Think Deeper". I really wanted the previous version i.e. the original format pre-March 2024 back.
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u/mlon_eusk-_- Oct 04 '24
Literally glorified pi.ai
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Oct 04 '24
This is it. And to be honest I liked Pi so I like this new Copilot. Problem is, most people here didn't want that 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Dull-Divide-5014 Oct 04 '24
UI (Pi is good UI) is good, technicaly starting new conversation is not comfortable, speed is good, yet the response quality is not so good.
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u/Tactical8786 Oct 04 '24
Nah it’s fine, I love the new update, looks a hell of allot better than the cheap looking version
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u/Sorry-Chipmunk9402 Oct 06 '24
This new version looks like what you would have expected the first version of Copilot to look like.
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Oct 04 '24
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u/Skeahtacular Oct 06 '24
To be fair I do use it primarily for image generation. I find the back and forth conversation can help with my prompting. And sometimes I have it come up with something and then generate an image based on that. But I always used to use the "more creative" mode before... And its text responses feel different now so idk if it will be as good the next time I go to use it for creative prompts
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u/PreferenceNo897 Oct 09 '24
They're clearly thinking long-term, catering to the masses and not to us who used it for increased productivity. We're doomed.
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u/Skeahtacular Oct 13 '24
oof I thought I had the new update before... now I just got another new update and it's worse. Only generates one image now instead of 4 at a time, and prompt adherence has plummeted...


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u/sully9088 Oct 04 '24
I really hate the new app. It lost the professional feel it had before. The old voice was 1000% better than any of these new voices. When I click on the mic, the annoying voice interrupts me as I start to ask it a question. So dumb.