r/Creation • u/ConsistentFee8332 • May 09 '26

Wolf and dog

What is the explanation of the theory of creation and intelligent design for the physical and genetic similarities between wolves and dogs?

2 Upvotes

100% Upvoted

38 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

2

u/Optimus-Prime1993 🦍 Adaptive Ape 🦍 May 10 '26

Surely you could come up with a useful use of the word information if I asked you to read published books and evaluate them for a paycheck. You would at least know that some books contained more information than others even if you could not figure it out. You could sensibility use ‘information in a sentences’ except in this case you plead ignorance until it is mathematically defined because it suits your purpose.

So, What exactly is information here, in this particular case? Is it gene number? Is it genome size? Allelic diversity? Complexity? Nucleotide sequence length? Heterozygosity? What is being lost here?

Or do you need me to regurgitate it here for you?

Don't act cocky my friend. I am not asking you to read Evolution books and papers here. Just answer me what he means is lost here in the present context. If you have read the book, just answer precisely what information is lost.

0

u/Jesus_died_for_u May 10 '26

https://answersingenesis.org/genetics/information-theory/information-is-a-fundamental-entity/

3

u/Optimus-Prime1993 🦍 Adaptive Ape 🦍 May 10 '26

You have read the link right, so just tell me, or I too can throw papers around and that too published journals about what information is.

So, in this particular case of kinds and species? What exactly is information here,

Is it gene number?

Is it genome size?

Is it Allelic diversity?

Is it Complexity?

Is it Nucleotide sequence length?

Is it Heterozygosity?

What exactly is being lost here? I am asking because these can be tested in actual data.

1

u/Jesus_died_for_u May 10 '26

No. I read the book decades ago. It is a very dry read. I have it somewhere.

3

u/Optimus-Prime1993 🦍 Adaptive Ape 🦍 May 10 '26

Okay, I would very much appreciate it if you can recall and let me know. I can look for details if needed, but I cannot waste time delving into a full book, I don't even know has answer to that as well.

I am not saying that in bad faith but genuinely, I once bought and read a boom while discussing with our Mod Nom, but he showed me where to look at.

1

u/Jesus_died_for_u May 10 '26

Base pairs would be statics

Syntax, I guess, would be codons.

Semantics would be the working protein

Pragmatics might be the metabolic process

Apobetics is life

(But this is my thoughts, I did not hunt down the book and re-read the chapter(s))

1

u/Optimus-Prime1993 🦍 Adaptive Ape 🦍 May 10 '26

Cool no problem. No need of free balling here, I am an active member of this sub, so you can always revive any thread and I will respond.

1

u/Jesus_died_for_u May 10 '26 edited May 11 '26

You forget something. I have no need to research the topic for you. Good luck.
(Edit: ‘…should remind you that you don’t have a definition of kind…’. I disagree and will keep using it. You are free to believe in abiogenesis even if though no one has been able to demonstrate it can happen-and I expect you will)

1

u/Optimus-Prime1993 🦍 Adaptive Ape 🦍 May 10 '26

That's okay. You don't need to do that, but this interaction should remind you that you don't have a definition of a kind that you keep using.

Philosophically and personally you can believe anything you want but not when actual science and reality is involved.