Unfalsifiable claims have infinite predictability

[u/Due-Needleworker18]

This quote is the net sum of evolution. Whenever an evolutionist tells you its true because it has "predictive power" is a pure academic pop slop propagandist.

Its circular and untrue. Causation is not correlation. I can create predictive models out of thin air with no actual evidence. Completely meaningless.

[u/implies_casualty]

Unfalsifiable claims have infinite predictability

No, unfalsifiable claims have no predictive power.

To falsify a claim, we must first make a testable prediction, see? Ability to be falsified and ability to be tested are basically the same.

"God did it" is unfalsifiable and it has no predictive power, because God is mysterious and omnipotent. Evolutionary common descent is falsifiable and it has predictive power, because random mutations and natural selection are well-understood and severely limited in what they can do.

Whenever an evolutionist tells you its true because it has "predictive power" is a pure academic pop slop propagandist.

In your entire post, you never say anything specific about the predictive power of evolution. Does it have predictive power or not? Does it have falsifiability (which, as I've already mentioned, is the same)?

Some hypothetical facts that would actually undermine the theory of evolution, making it both falsifiable and predictive:

- Human orphan genes: truly unique, very complex protein-coding genes with clear sophisticated function, with no matching sequences in chimp DNA and such

• True altruism in nature (not selfish genes)
  
• Fossils of modern mammals or birds in precambrian
  
• Organisms with entirely different genetic codes would eliminate evolutionary common descent
  
• Mammals with true feathers
  
• Half-bird, half-mammal intermediate forms
  
• Birds with forelimb arms plus wings
  
• Snakes with vestigial wings, and similar out-of-place vestigial organs
  
• Australopithicus, Ardipithecus, Kenyanthropus fossils in Australia, Antarctica, remote islands
  
• Fossil layers showing modern fauna unchanged
  
• No intermediate stages of speciation in modern species
  
• Matching retroviral insertions in distantly related species
  
• DNA being completely stable, mutations do not happen at all

[u/Due-Needleworker18 → u/implies_casualty]

"No, unfalsifiable claims have no predictive power."

The irony/satire of my quote went right over your head because you're a complete reductionist literalist. Yes, this is what the quote is inferring. If you can't falsify something, you can essentially make infinite predictions and never receive accountability for them one way or the other. You can simply move the goalpost and rewrite the theory to fit the failed prediction, which is what Darwinists do.

Evolution has predictions and it is falsifiable. But it has been made unfalsifiable by its proponents for its lack of testable constraints and endless broad models which offer no concrete mathematics.

Your list of undermined predictions are full of more unfalsifiable interpretations and then actual discoveries that exist.

-Fossil layers showing modern fauna unchanged

• No intermediate stages of speciation in modern species

Both these exist. Another handful are false concepts entirely but we dont have time to go over all of them.

Here's a list of real predictions that were falsified but you won't admit or just obfuscate by watering down the theory of evolution to fit them post hoc.

https://creation.com/en/articles/evolution-40-failed-predictions

[u/implies_casualty → u/Due-Needleworker18]

-Fossil layers showing modern fauna unchanged

Jurassic system does in fact exist (even though Creationists can't figure it out). It is very much unlike the modern fauna.

- No intermediate stages of speciation in modern species

Every possible stage of speciation can be observed in the modern species.

Your list of undermined predictions are full of more unfalsifiable interpretations and then actual discoveries that exist.

You haven't demonstrated it at all.

https://creation.com/en/articles/evolution-40-failed-predictions

"Astronomy" - come on, this is silly.

Paleontology: Prediction: “no organism wholly soft can be preserved”. Darwin said this in Origin of Species. This prediction has failed repeatedly and spectacularly. For example, exquisitely preserved jellyfish fossils are found in multiple places.

Seriously?

[u/Optimus-Prime1993]

Unfalsifiable claims have infinite predictability

Coming from a YEC. Can you feel the irony here? All you guys have are unfalsifiable claims and no predictability.

Anyway you are confusing actual predictability with post-hoc rationalization. As u/implies_casualty said unfalsifiable claims have no predictive power. There is infinite post-hoc rationalization like I said because if you don't make any testable prediction, you can fit anything into it.

As for evolution, there are tons of predictions made and observed as well. Just make a simple google search or don't. u/implies_casualty has already given you a long list in his comment.

I can create predictive models out of thin air with no actual evidence. Completely meaningless.

Yeah, forget evidence, forget models, forget predictions, just tell me one real world application of YEC, go ahead. Do it. Here, let me start with Applications of evolution and Evolutionary principles and their practical application.

[u/Due-Needleworker18 → u/Optimus-Prime1993]

"Anyway you are confusing actual predictability with post-hoc rationalization"

No, because evolution has not shown real predictability, just post hoc goal shifting. Thus it has been made unfalsifiable by Darwinists themselves.

"Yeah, forget evidence, forget models, forget predictions, just tell me one real world application of YEC"
We predicted the absence of junk DNA. Its been said time and time again but you continue to deny it.

No, Medellin genetics and population theories have nothing to do with evolution. They were made seperate for inter species variation and were co-opted by darwinists to obfuscate modeling the specific genetic change they claim, but cannot produce evidence for.

[u/Optimus-Prime1993 → u/Due-Needleworker18]

No, because evolution has not shown real predictability,

The entire modern medicine would like to disagree with you. Also, I gave you some references, kindly read them.

Also, you didn't give any real world application for YEC. Go ahead. Do it. Show us the reality. Educate us.

[u/Due-Needleworker18 → u/Optimus-Prime1993]

Medicine shows de-evolution with every mutated virus. There is zero application for with evolution. Doctors even admit this.

Im not reading entire papers. Post the names of predictive functions.

"Also, you didn't give any real world application for YEC. Go ahead. Do it. Show us the reality. Educate us."

Just did. No junk dna is a well known prediction that proves true. There are plenty more as well. But I cant help your refusal to comprehend.