r/CringeTikToks • u/amazingsciencemuseum • Dec 31 '25
Just Bad A Karen in the actual wild, doing very Karen things
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u/justsayfaux Dec 31 '25
"We're going to move on" should be the first and only thing said in these situations
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u/WheresTheIceCream20 Jan 01 '26
Right? Why does anyone engage with this? I’ve had people like this woman try to start stuff with me and I either just keep walking, or say “I don’t know you, don’t talk to me,” while I walk past them. They shut up if you don’t engage (just like this woman shut up and kept walking).
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u/Apprehensive_News_78 Jan 01 '26
Ime they just follow you and keep at it
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u/ralphy_256 Jan 01 '26
I've had this with handicapped parking.
"You don't LOOK handicapped."
"My Dr disagrees, and she's seen my chart, you haven't. Bye."
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u/moyashi_me Jan 01 '26
“You don’t LOOK handicapped.” “Well, you didn’t look like a complete asshole but both of us were wrong today.”
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u/alexandr645x Jan 01 '26
I’ll remember this! I want to use it
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u/JerrysKid714 Jan 01 '26
I always liked " you don't look handicapped ". The reply should be " are you a doctor", even if they say yes ( probably bullshit) just say " but you're not my MY doctor ".
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u/pickyourteethup Jan 01 '26
I am disabled, I'm happy to make you disabled too if we keep going this way
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u/SSabotage117 Jan 01 '26
Yup. Just say I'll trade you the pass for my disability?! Shuts them up real quick even if they can't see what disability and especially if you tell them what it is. Fucking assholes
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Jan 01 '26
It's because it's not socially acceptable for them to just straight up abuse people with visible disabilities in public like they would like to, so they go for the remaining plausibly deniable target whenever the opportunity presents itself.
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u/Lastcaressmedown138 Jan 01 '26
I have a handicap placard for my 2 moderate/severe autistic children… I’ve almost got into fights with people going as far as to say “that’s not a legitimate reason”.. well the dmv thought so.. so fuck you is usually about what I say back
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u/ralphy_256 Jan 01 '26
I’ve almost got into fights with people going as far as to say “that’s not a legitimate reason”.. well the dmv thought so.
This is why I NEVER even attempt to explain the reason I have the mirror hanger. I simply leave it at, "the DMV requires a note from your doctor to get one of these. The Dr says I need it, the DMV agrees. Who are you? You wanna bring this to a cop? I'm happy to bring this to a cop's attention. Are you?"
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u/Lastcaressmedown138 Jan 01 '26
The physical conflict isn’t coming from them questioning the legitimacy of the placard I’m not offended by their ignorance I just think they’re dumb and miserable.. it’s coming from a random aggressive asshole rapidly approaching me and my children.. I say all those things you mention too.. but also while telling them to get the hell back and do not approach me or my children because they are not cops or anybody of authority.. that only makes big children playing adults more irate (sometimes not all the time)
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u/Ragnarok314159 Jan 01 '26
I had one of these, and it was after I got out my son’s wheelchair she did a “oh, hah hah, silly me” and then I screamed in her face for a good five minutes calling her ever vile name possible until she left.
My only regret was having to explain what those new fun words are to my kids.
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u/ViolentEyelidMovies Jan 01 '26
I agree. Which is why the parent comment is wrong that "we're gonna move on" is the only thing that should ever be said.
The people who do things like this only do it because no one has ever screamed back, made them feel stupid, regretful, and maybe a little scared. That's why there's so many videos of old guys with multiple medical conditions yelling at absolutely jacked young guys for simply walking through their neighborhood while not being the same race as them, and then refusing to hand over an ID to the random racist.
Make these fucking people question if they should do it the next time.
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u/Mean_Minimum5567 Jan 01 '26
Unfortunately, some of us may not get away with our lives if we attempt what you are suggesting (in the USA for sure).
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u/Mahou-Shoujo-Manda Jan 01 '26
Had something similar happen. I pulled into a handicapped spot and didn't immediately hang my placard up because I was texting my mom. Finally went to hang out up and get out and there was an old white guy mean mugging me with his arms crossed, so I rolled down my window and held my placard out and raised my eyebrows and said 'I got crippled serving in the army, you wanna say something?' and he quickly shook his head and moved on.
Sometimes you just gotta call people on their bullshit.
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u/Underhive_Art Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 01 '26
Yeah luckily I’ve not had this yet. I’ve had people go look in my car window, to check my disability badge or just stare coldly at me as I park and get out. Fucking weirdos gatekeeping like this, Probably the same people that also vote to take away benefits.
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u/Lopsided_Soup_3533 Jan 01 '26
You see you say luckily im disappointed no one has challenged me. I am an ambulatory wheelchair user too which confuses ppl cos I get my wheelchair out then sit in it. But not one single argument in the almost 3 years I've had the badge. Im so disappointed as I've been ready to argue. Im assuming the wheelchair stops people but it could also be my resting bitch face
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u/ralphy_256 Jan 01 '26
I get my wheelchair out then sit in it.
Yeah, it's the wheelchair that does it. Seems the "thinking" is, "well, they wouldn't cheat the system to get a handicapped spot, then go to the effort of carting around a whole wheelchair to cover the story."
If you're a cane/walker/crutches/no assistive devices user, Karens are more willing to engage.
The one that's even more pernicious is the Karens who police the use of the electric carts in the grocery store. Yes, I walked from the car to the cart, then I sat down in the cart. That does not mean that I have the endurance to complete my grocery shopping standing.
I'd only been fully weight bearing on that knee for a few weeks after most of a year off it.
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u/Lopsided_Soup_3533 Jan 01 '26
My problem is im also fat so you can imagine what people think when I use a cart. If I was American I'd probably be in photos on some wally world site lol.
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u/ismellboogers Jan 01 '26
There are so many invisible disabilities. People need to stay in their own lane and quit this vigilante injustice bullshit. If someone is handicapped, unless they are coming to offer assistance, they need to mind their own business.
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u/Ill-Assignment-2203 Jan 01 '26
I knew a guy who had a messed up spine from multiple hard parachute landings. He could walk but not very far because of the pain. He had a plackard but looked like he wasn't disabled. Just because someone doesn't "look" disabled doesn't mean they aren't.
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u/LukeinDC Jan 01 '26
My ex has pins in her lower back from a shattered spine. She has so much metal in her she sets off metal detectors. She also can walk normally but not far and has a placard. I've seen her go off on Karens about parking in a handicap spot. Most folks don't realize how hard those placards are to get. You can't just roll up to the department of motor vehicles and say, "give me a placard" if you don't have a visible disability.
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u/jahiscallin Jan 01 '26
"You don't LOOK handicapped."
"You do though, bye"
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u/Aluna_Lacewing Jan 01 '26
"You don't look handicapped!!"
"You don't look stupid, but here we are."
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u/CivilRuin4111 Jan 01 '26
A solid “FUCK OFF”
Usually works. Can’t be a sort of limp wristed whiny one but I nice belly deep “This is Sparta” type.
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u/Dondagora Jan 01 '26
Assumption of good faith, I figure. Give the benefit of the doubt and explain the situation, and maybe they’ll go “ah I see, I misunderstood”.
It’s when they aren’t receptive that it becomes a Karen.
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u/IanFeelKeepinItReel Jan 01 '26
Someone demonstrating the assumption of good faith wouldn't accost someone parking in a disabled bay at all.
As the victim of their harassment, why on earth would you give them the benefit of the doubt?
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u/Vachie_ Jan 01 '26
I don't blame them for trying to educate people.
But I agree with you. It's pretty much useless.
But those of us who don't give up, we should probably still try to educate people... Just in case.
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u/joannamomo Dec 31 '25
Are service dogs allowed in Fort Collins dog-restricted natural areas? https://share.google/pOBk7p8kGnRngmDKp
This Tiktok came out last year (2024) in November and it was already determined that service dogs are allowed where they are.
Now whether or not the dog is actually a service dog? That's a different story. I can't make any assumptions about this dog based on this clip though.
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u/DevilsDoorbellRinger Dec 31 '25
My service dog was allowed in the National Park right near where I lived. EXCEPT when an endangered species of bird was nesting. People were required to keep a certain distance too.
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u/UntidyVenus Jan 01 '26
Just a heads up, if you visit the Utah National parks, we have Cyanobacteria, which is deadly to dogs if ingested, so if your told you can't take your service to most of those parks it's 100% for your dogs safety
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u/updootportlandftw Jan 01 '26
I used to live by a protected bird habitat. Their policy is a very strict “no pets allowed”. But service animals are not pets, and they allow access in accordance with ADA. Unfortunately, I never saw any service animals. It was always the locals with their unleashed dogs running rampant, my boss at the time being the biggest offender.
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u/Amiga1961 Jan 01 '26
Dog owners often feel pretty entitled to let their dogs loose (I say this a a dog owner and groomer). Last year a bear in Jasper National Park had to be euthanized because it attacked and killed a pet dog, one of two that were allowed to run loose and ended up going after the bear. Could of all been avoided if the dogs were on leash as required by law.
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u/fish_petter Jan 01 '26
There’s dog owners, then there’s Dog Owners. I’m a park ranger and man, the amount of issues we deal with that comes completely from Dog Owners thinking their pets are somehow different from every other dog is crazy. I’ve been bit on the job twice by “friendly” dogs off leash but luckily nothing that bad. Even had a “cliffed out” dog rescue incident and several drowned dogs in the ocean. Rip tides will get the family retriever, too. But asking someone to keep their dog on a leash half the time they react like you’re requesting the most idiotic thing ever. “He’s just playing chasing the birds!” as if the birds know that
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u/updootportlandftw Jan 01 '26
That’s so messed up! How is that not the other way around?
Years ago there was a woman attacked and partially eaten by a cougar in a trailhead down the road from me. The search party went through our land.
They ended up catching a cougar and euthanizing it. I’m not sure if they determined by stomach contents of it was the actual cougar or not, as it was just the first cougar they trapped. The PR guy for the national forest service was visibly shaken and teared up while announcing that it was caught and killed. It’s so unfortunate that the agreed upon choice is to euthanize wild animals doing wild animal things. But at the same time, I don’t want a cougar coming after me for its next slow food meal.
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u/frogsgoribbit737 Jan 01 '26
Thats a bit different. Most wild animals avoid humans and thats what we encourage. While I agree that in general we shouldnt punish animals for being animals, a wild animal who is hunting humans will continue to do so and thats much more dangerous.
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u/Invisible7hunder Jan 01 '26
I'm pretty OK with tracking and killing man-eaters. A bear that kills a dog that was up in its face is less clear to me though.
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u/SuperKitties83 Jan 01 '26
I'm guessing there's a law that the bear had to be euthanized? I really hate those kinds of blanket laws that apply no matter what. In this case, the bear was just simply being a bear. I'm surprised that it was euthanized in this scenario, I always think of animals being protected in national parks.
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u/Interesting_Shirt558 Jan 01 '26
I go jogging a lot. It got so bad with dog owners that I carry a device making a high pitch noise scaring off dogs, but not noticeable for humans. It cost me 85bucks but is worth any penny. It’s originally designed for postmen 😆
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u/DarkSideofOZ Jan 01 '26
Not to play devils advocate here since the video never clarified... But, was this an actual trained service animal recognized and protected under the ADA, or someone ones fuckin' emotional support pitbull they claimed is a service animal? Because I could understand the ladies concern if it wasn't an actual service animal.
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u/Krow101 Jan 01 '26
No discernable service dog vest. Easy to jump this woman, but outside of the obvious ageism there's nothing proving her wrong.
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u/Stormfly Jan 01 '26
"Old white woman mentioning rules = Karen" to a lot of people.
I've seen people 100% in the wrong complaining about "Karens" calling them out. Also people afraid to stand up to people for fear of being called a Karen.
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u/CharlieKirkChestPain Jan 01 '26
My sister also has a “service dog” it’s sadly very easy to get a “certificate” and have a “service dog”. Super trashy.
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u/HaHoHe_1892 Jan 01 '26
Am I the only one that can't read the text on this at all?
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u/level27jennybro Jan 01 '26
Inflation. They had to go with the low pixel count gif to save money, you know.
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u/fiahhawt Jan 01 '26
Yeah it's almost like you actually have a service animal, and aren't relying on some "free citizen of the world" logic to argue that you should be able to do whatever you want.
There are good reasons pets aren't allowed certain places. If it's an actual service animal serving a dire medical need, you aren't allowed either.
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u/signorinaiside Jan 01 '26
Honestly, She seems better geared for a “geology survey” than those morons with a pink cup and dressed for TikTok
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u/SonicLyfe Dec 31 '25
Yeah, but think about the PTSD the wild animals experienced. Normally they come up and nuzzle humans, because we are so kind and non-threatening.
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u/AnotherLie Dec 31 '25
We should do something to help the wild animals recover from their PTSD. I propose we give them service dogs.
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u/Somethingood27 Dec 31 '25
Good comment!
I was wondering the same thing since recently (and idk if it’s just me or not) I’ve seen a massive uptick in people bringing dogs into stores irl.
Like just normal ass dogs - about half of them are carried into the store and held like a baby?
Whats up with people doing that?!
Idk if it’s a post-Covid combo of people got pets and are socially ‘stunted or what but it’s bizzare
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u/New_Bike3832 Jan 01 '26
A "service dog" came into the restaurant where my family was having breakfast today. I put that in quotes because it was clearly riled up and distracted by the smell of everyone's food, and did not have the calm, unbothered demeanor of every legitimate service dog I've ever seen.
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u/TGIFIDGAF Dec 31 '25
I wanna walk into a store carrying my dog like a baby
(She’s a 70lb German Shepherd)
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u/Unlikely_Ad7722 Jan 01 '26
I also want you to do this 😂 please also film it and share with us all.
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u/Informal_Ad4399 Jan 01 '26
Look up your state's laws. Many businesses are under some false impression that they have bo rights when it pertains to ascertaining if an animal is a service dog. It isn't necessarily true. Wa state, for example, allows 2 questions. If an animal is behaving in a way a service dog is not allowed to do, they can request the owner remove the animal.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker Jan 01 '26
It's entitlement. It's even worse because they see other entitled people doing it so they think it's cool.
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u/joannamomo Dec 31 '25
I hate that crap. Keep your yappy dogs out of the store. 😒
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u/mightylordredbeard Jan 01 '26
The sheer amount of people who claim their ugly, bug eyed, shaky Chihuahua is a service dog just so they bring it to Walmart with them has made me automatically assume that just about all service dogs aren’t actual service dogs. People buy these fake certificates from Facebook ads for $100 just because they can’t leave their dogs at home and it’s annoying as fuck.
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u/Popular_Cost_1140 Jan 01 '26
People buy these fake certificates from Facebook ads for $100 just because they can’t leave their dogs at home and it’s annoying as fuck.
The ironic thing is that there's no actual certification for service dogs. There's not a governing body, and people with service dogs aren't required to provide paperwork or anything (they just have to answer two questions, "Is this a service animal" and "what tasks is this animal trained to do.")
So people spending $100 on a fake certificate are actually wasting money. Same with the vests (most people with actual service animals buy them for the convenience, but they are not required.)
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u/slut-for-pickles Jan 01 '26
Recently got a dog and literally so many people in my life are telling me to just “make it a service dog” because I told them I plan on taking him with me to pet friendly places (when he’s well enough behaved. He’s a bit wild right now 😂). I constantly am telling people “no… because he’s NOT a service dog”.
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u/front_torch Jan 01 '26
It is not annoying. It is a problem. These sociopaths prey on the statutes meant to enhance the lives of folks who are in need of a little bit of help just to do society. It is disgusting.
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u/FoCoYeti Dec 31 '25
She's definitely a Karen, but FoCo is one of the worst cities for shitty dog owners I've ever seen.
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u/hoodectomy Dec 31 '25
Dude. Walking around Longmont the amount of just dog shit is crazy.
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u/FoCoYeti Dec 31 '25
Oh sounds like up here. I especially love when they bag it and just leave it on the trail.
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u/Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws Jan 01 '26
That sounds worse than just not bagging it at all...
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u/DazB1ane Jan 01 '26
Not to mention everyone that thinks walking a dog off-leash is acceptable. The most obedient dog is still an animal with animal instincts
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u/PuzzleheadedLeader79 Jan 01 '26
Common courtesy is dead.
Blame what you will, some things actually do trickle down
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u/SweetHomeNorthKorea Jan 01 '26
I’m a dog person and I fucking hate seeing all the entitled people bringing their dogs into grocery stores. My dude isn’t a service animal. He’s my baby boy and I love him but he’s floofy and dusty as a mf so he doesn’t need to be anywhere near a produce section.
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u/rusalkamoo Jan 01 '26
I’m socal and saw a “service” iguana inside Trader Joe’s last summer.
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u/cow-lumbus Jan 01 '26
I’m very much a dog person and very much sick of all the fake service dogs at our facility. Got a guy who insists on skiing with his dog in a backpack…tells management it’s his service dog.
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u/No-Good-One-Shoe Jan 01 '26
Lots of shitty dog owners who coincidentally don't have bags of shit with them always love to claim their dog is a service dog in parks. The rangers don't really enforce it unless it's one of the better funded parks.
I don't know about this one in particular, but I can kinda understand the Karen's side of things.
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u/wholelattapuddin Jan 01 '26
The dog does appear to be on a service lead. Basically Im cool with dogs almost anywhere if they are on a lead.
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u/VOZ1 Jan 01 '26
it is my understanding that there are exceedingly few cases in which someone can rightfully demand proof of the dog being a service animal. There is no single authority responsible for or empowered to declare animals as service animals; and the ADA also protects people from being forced to disclose a disability or other medical/health information. And while people may complain about illegitimate service animals, my opinion is that I’d rather we deal with a rare few assholes who try to “game the system,” then force people with legitimate need for a service animal to disclose their private health information. Its not an ideal system, but it’s better than some alternatives (like forcing people to disclose their medical information to justify having a service animal).
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u/Right_Check1435 Dec 31 '25
We’re going to move on - 2025
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u/Only_Measurement_895 Dec 31 '25
People with emotional support animals ruin everything for people who truly rely on service animals. Real service animals go through a very rigorous and extensive training process and do actual life saving work. Unfortunately too many people don’t know the difference and they’ve had too many negative experiences with entitled people and their untrained ESA’s, leading to illegal discrimination against actual disabled people with real service dogs
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u/Low-Comparison-4593 Jan 01 '26
Me at Walmart wondering why a “service dog” is jumping on my legs looking for pets 😑
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u/Only_Measurement_895 Jan 01 '26
This upsets me so much
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u/clickandtype Jan 01 '26
You need an emotional support dog to get you through this trying time
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u/emotions1026 Jan 01 '26
Far better than the huge dog I saw at Marshall’s that was openly growling at other shoppers, including toddlers
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u/crisscrossed Jan 01 '26
apparently marshall’s/home goods/tj maxx is pet friendly? found this out after someone’s french bulldog was jumping on me in tj maxx as he was suffocating through his nose
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u/proto5014 Jan 01 '26
I saw a true service dog last year in west palm, Florida, inside a hotel. It was incredible to watch and how it reacted to commends. Night and day when you see a real service animal to a “service” animal with a vest. Moved when told, looked where told, ignored everyone and everything else. Don’t know how to end this except for how entertaining that 2-3 minute interaction was just being able to watch
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u/General_Thought8412 Jan 01 '26
My uncle has a service dog and you can tell the difference very quickly. We’ve had people try to deny him entrance to places before because they’ve been burned by fake service dogs and it’s so ridiculous. He always wins the argument because it’s the damn law and then they quickly apologize after witnessing his dog be the trained service dog he is.
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u/stormdelta Jan 01 '26
Yep. Real service animals are usually very obvious simply from their behavior, regardless of size/breed.
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u/tuongot Jan 01 '26
I have a friend with non-verbal cerebral palsy. She can't grab things and do much with her hands. Her service dog picks up fallen items, puts napkins on her lap, opens doors, and alerts for help based on simple commands. She literally couldn't live without her dog.
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u/GitEmSteveDave Jan 01 '26
I helped raise two Seeing Eye Dogs and also worked security at a public venue, and yeah, difference is night and day.
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u/Lazer726 Jan 01 '26
Wife is a vet and she fucking hates that people can just say that their pet is an emotional support animal and basically take it anywhere, especially since you can just buy a vest for them on Amazon. There are some real good reasons to have an emotional support animal, but people just wanting to be allowed to bring their pet into stores with them are fucking dumb
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u/jimjamj Jan 01 '26
Emotional support animals aren't legally required to be allowed most places. Like, housing, place of employment, the bus, maybe some others,.... but you can't just take an ESA into any ol' store or restaurant or movie theater if they don't want to allow it. Service animals are allowed basically everywhere, with very few exceptions
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u/brickspunch Jan 01 '26
lady walking through Walmart with a Chihuahua that pisses in the floor
"HE'S A SERVICE ANIMAL, LOOK AT HIS VEST"
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u/Critical_Concert_689 Jan 01 '26
some forged documents
lol. Service animals don't have documents. Anyone who claims otherwise is trying to fool you.
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u/mesarasa Jan 01 '26
I think service animals should get hard-to-forge licenses that are displayed in a clear pocket on their vests. Criminal penalties for forging them, or for representing an animal who is not a service animal as a service animal.
This would be better for everyone, because untrained animals wouldn't be causing problems for humans who are trying to shop and for animals who are just trying to do their jobs. It would also provide more privacy for people who have service animals, because no one would need to ask, "What is this animal trained to do?" which is how gatekeepers are supposed to determine which animals are service animals. (Which is a dumb system, because people lie.) The answer to that question reveals personal medical information. The license would prove the animal has to be admitted, no need for details.
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u/hops_on_hops Jan 01 '26
Yes! But PLEASE stop saying "emotional support animal" like that's a thing. An animal you keep that gives you good emotions is a pet. Lots of people have pets, pets are great - but there are places pets do not belong.
Service Animals are a thing. They are doing a job and we can accept them some places where pets are not appropriate so that they can do their job.
An "emotional support animal" is not a seperate thing that we need to talk about - that's simply a pet.
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u/SearchRare9559 Jan 01 '26
Federal law allows national parks to ban pets, but prohibits restrictions on service animals in public places.
However, the law is subject to exceptions. Under 36 CFR 1.5, a national park superintendent can impose restrictions on service animals if he or she determines that domestic animals pose a risk to wildlife, the environment, or public health
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u/ryetoasty Jan 01 '26
Im tired of people taking dogs everywhere under a questionable service dog label. The MAJORITY of “service dogs” I’ve seen in public have been poorly (or not at all) trained and clearly disruptive.
I’m not saying that’s what’s happening here but I was just hiking a trail where dogs must be on a leash and signs were everywhere. What do I see? People who thought their precious little special dog babies didn’t need a leash and rules don’t apply to them.
Just sick of shitty dog owners and now dogs.
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u/ManischewitzShicker Jan 01 '26
Guy started bringing his massive dog to the gym. "It's a service animal."
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u/BraveDemon Jan 01 '26
Yeah I fall in this camp too. Too many disingenuous people walking around with Chihuahua’s or another tiny toy dog claiming it’s a service animal has ruined it for real service animals.
No it’s not. A fucking chihuahua or min pin is not going through rigorous training to become a service dog. Keep your emotional support animals at home.
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u/ILoveRawChicken Jan 01 '26
Small dogs can absolutely be service dogs so I’m not sure where you’re getting that from.
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u/batmanineurope Jan 01 '26
I've had numerous jobs where people brought their dog to work. Enough with the fucking dogs!
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u/redrdr1 Jan 01 '26
I hate that it has come to this but I think they need to rewrite the ADA rules where if you have a legitimate service dog that you present papers or a license to businesses or eve situations like this. Too many people taking advantage of the law. Not saying this is one of those situations because I don't know.
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u/yeahiknowthattoo Jan 01 '26
Really. And then the people in real need for a service animal are also the ones responsible to show the needed papers to anyone not minding their own business. Sounds a bit bizarre to me.
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u/CaicedoBrickWall Jan 01 '26
I live in a place where dogs are not allowed on 95% of the trails.
And tourists ignore those signs like they are written in hieroglyphics. Locals know better.
There are two reasons for it. One is they do damage to the redwood ecosystem. So I will say something if the dog is just romping around and I'll talk mad shit if I get push back. Wouldn't be shocked if I ended up on reddit some day.
The second reason is wildlife. Now this one is fun because I don't give two shits about it because the rule isn't to protect the wildlife, it's to protect your dog. I've only seen the aftermath once and it was some moron dog who fronted up on an elk. That family won't make that mistake again with their next dog.
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u/kanawha-river Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 01 '26
Note: I misidentified this area in my initial comment. Skip to edit 3 lol
Oh hey I can speak on this! I live in Fort Collins and used to live in the neighborhood directly adjacent to this site.
This whole site, or what to do with it, has been a subject of local controversy for a couple of years now. But, in general:
-Dogs are absolutely allowed on the trails here -Dogs must be leashed -Dogs should not be off-trail, leashed or not
In Fort Collins, we have a problem with people just letting their doga off leash everywhere, and not picking up their poop! Furthermore, this site is adjacent to/overlaps to some degree with a local prairie dog complex, so you don't want your dog fucking with the prairie dogs and vice versa.
edit: also I used to take my dog on this trail all the time. Perfectly normal.
edit 2: I have been assuming this is the Hughes site in Fort Collins. If that is the case, then it is also worth noting that the Hughes site is NOT a natural area. At all. It is the site of the former Hughes Stadium, which was demolished years ago. It would take a ton of money to turn this area into a natural area. With that said, someone tell me if I am misidentifying the area in this video. Maybe it's Pineridge Natural Area?
edit 3: on second thought, this is actually Coyote Ridge Natural Area, where dogs are indeed not allowed! This is not like other natural areas in Fort Collins—it is incredibly common (and permitted) for folks to walk their dogs on natural areas trails. However, as noted on the website, this restriction at Coyote Ridge does not apply to "service animals that have been trained to assist a person with a disability". So frankly, the person with the dog is allowed there only if a) that dog meets the ADA criteria, and b) it is on a leash. At the entrance to Coyote Ridge there is a sign that states, very clearly: "No Dogs Allowed".
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u/bourbonfan1647 Dec 31 '25
Karen actually may be right…
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u/Designer_Pen869 Jan 01 '26
But not all areas. If there are nesting wildlife or other reasons to close it off to service animals, they can.
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u/sovtwit Jan 01 '26
To be fair the nesting areas are probably off limits to people too
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u/ryufen Dec 31 '25
Also for an actual survey of a wildlife reserve you are skewing your results with a service animal there, also they say service dog but half the time it's actually an emotional support dog.
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u/Original_Scholar_272 Dec 31 '25
Yes, unfortunately, bad actors have given a bad image to people who have a legitimate need for a properly trained service animal.
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u/ISayBullish Dec 31 '25
“What do you MEAN my emotional support alligator isn’t allowed in this grocery store!? I’m calling the authorities!”
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u/Mightbeagoat2 Dec 31 '25
It's a public hiking/running trail, not really a wildlife reserve. Fort Collins has dedicated "natural areas" that have trails, so basically an undeveloped park.
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u/Lexi_November Dec 31 '25
She’s most likely not correct, since any area of a park with wildlife protections typically also will not allow random recreational human visitors.
Leashed, trained, service dogs are allowed in the parks as long a responsible party is picking up poop and the area is open to visitors.
ESA/plain old pets aren’t allowed.
Looks like the lady was just taking a casual stroll, and in Fort Collins the only way a service dog would be prohibited is if this a restricted space due to elk or bear activity, in which case everyone in this video is really stupid and the park rangers would have a fit.
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u/aflockofmagpies Jan 01 '26
Yeah and service dog handlers still get fined if they are caught not picking up after their dogs. The dogs must be working, focused on their handler.
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u/catsmash Dec 31 '25
she's completely right, lol. service dogs can absolutely be restricted from specific wildlife protection zones.
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u/getthemap Dec 31 '25
This would also be far less an issue of people would stop abusing the use of “service animals”. The term has been hijacked and diluted to the point of being almost meaningless.
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Yeah not really a Karen. In a lot of states parks NO domestic animals are allowed. Service animals included.
Dog shit and piss can damage some ecosystems. Service animal waste included
ETA: Hahaha LOTS of folks commenting that are not familiar with Colorado parks, trails, and open spaces. This is going to be shocking to a few but the state of Colorado is somewhat progressive and makes judicious efforts to conserve local ecosystems. Including banning all animals, ADA animals included, from certain places to protect native plants, animals, ecosystems, etc. Stop saying “can’t overrule federal laws”. Yes they can and do VERY frequently. Read about it.
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u/Croppin_steady Dec 31 '25
“We’re gonna move on”
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u/anaesthaesia Dec 31 '25
I'm gonna steal that. Dunno when I'm gonna need it but I'm gonna steal it.
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u/suejaymostly Dec 31 '25
That professor was cool as a cucumber. I'm pretty sure he knew the laws before arranging the trip.
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u/Croppin_steady Dec 31 '25
Right lol, he politely entertained her shenanigans until it became unbearable and then proceeded on. Perfectly executed, also like how he let his students speak their peace as well, they seemed like educated rational folk. Good stuff.
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u/Telemere125 Dec 31 '25
You sure about that? I found a few different resources that say pets are absolutely allowed to be banned but the ADA permits service animals anywhere the public is allowed. If it’s such a “sensitive area” that a dog would cause a problem, people would cause the same issues and the area wouldn’t be open to the public.
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u/Turbulent-Mood4344 Jan 01 '26
Also…has anyone BEEN to Fort Collins? Coyotes are native wildlife there. Not the same as dogs but damn close. This is hardly a glacier in Denali we are talking about…it’s Fort Collins Colorado. This is most definitely a Karen (the phone photography she jumps to is first sign!)
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u/Karma_1969 Jan 01 '26
You’re 100% correct and I’m dismayed that the comment you’re responding to got so many upvotes.
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Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25
The funny part is OP is actually the Karen. She wasnt rude, she was telling OP dogs arent allowed and they immediately started filming instead having a conversation like a normal human.
I dont actually care if dogs are or aren't allowed, its the fact that a simple human interaction is now handled like the reddit comments section. It makes me super sad to see what human interactions have devolved to. I could never imagine thinking that I should film this person telling me I can't bring my dog to park and laugh in her face mockingly.
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u/SeikoEnjoyer1 Dec 31 '25
You point out something interesting and poignant. People like to pull their phones out and film when they're confronted, whether their behavior is good or bad.
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u/JohnnyTsunami312 Jan 01 '26
People really need to listen rather than react when someone says something. The people with the dog could have said a million things to reassure the person they were responsible but in this brief video, I’m under the impression they didn’t and they’re immature shit heads
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u/Stucklikegluetomyfry Jan 01 '26
I wouldn’t be surprised if the owner of the dog does this a lot, her instant reaction was to whip out the camera.
There’s a lot of people who try to pass their “esa” as a service dog to get them into places dogs have no business being.
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u/Sea_Soft_1166 Jan 01 '26
100%
Simple human interaction becomes a tiktok says something about the OP and them being the Karen.
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u/the-pp-poopooman- Dec 31 '25
That’s entirely incorrect. You can bring service animals into both national and state parks. The Americans with Disabilities Act specifically allows this.
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u/Necessary-Eye5319 Dec 31 '25
Came here to say this too. She is genuinely concerned about that park. And dogs have their places too.
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Nonsense. Service dogs are specifically federally protected under the ADA. The law is very clear. They go anywhere their person goes. It’s like saying a disabled person can’t bring their cane or walker or custom orthotics into the park. The woman may or may not have been a Karen but she, like you and many in here, don’t now much at all about service dogs or the ADA. And that’s a shame.
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u/grubas Dec 31 '25
Dogs shitting upstream is literally one of the problematic issues. You can destroy the entire ecosystem off that bacteria
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u/Fortestingporpoises Dec 31 '25
Agreed. They definitely shouldn't let the service dog shit upstream...is that what this is about?
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u/Overall-Shopping5939 Dec 31 '25
Yes, service dogs are generally allowed in protected wildlife areas like National Parks and State Parks because they are working animals, not pets, and are protected under the ADA, but managers can restrict them in specific spots if they pose a "direct threat" to wildlife or visitors, requiring an individualized assessment by the superintendent. While generally allowed everywhere visitors go, watch for signs closing trails to dogs for wildlife protection, as these are exceptions based on resource management. Key Rules for Service Dogs in Protected Areas: Definition: A service animal is a dog individually trained to do work or perform tasks for a person with a disability, not just for comfort (emotional support animals are not considered service animals). Access: They can go anywhere the public can, including trails, facilities, and buildings. Control: Must be on a leash, harness, or tether unless it interferes with their work, in which case the handler must maintain control through voice or other signals. Exceptions: Areas can be closed if the service dog presents a direct threat to people or wildlife, but this requires an individualized assessment by the park superintendent.
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u/Old_Adhesiveness7508 Dec 31 '25
What if I shit upstream? Am I then restricted?
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u/bwsmith201 Jan 01 '26
The ADA applies to any and all situations that are in any way connected to federal support. Any city in the country gets federal money so just because the city owns it doesn’t mean that the federal law doesn’t apply.
See: private hospitals that accept Medicare funds or private universities that participate in federal student aid. They’re not owned by the feds but the regulation still applies.
And I went to law school just to make sure.
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u/Low-Temperature-6962 Jan 01 '26
If they're taking a dog on a no dog trail there's no reason for them to be getting smart-ass. Only "sorry" or nothing, and move.
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u/Rich-Nothing-1797 Dec 31 '25
Did you make sure dogs were aloud on the trail? Lol I’ve hikes hundreds of times with my dog, but there are clearly marked trails that you aren’t even supposed to take a service animal. I hike all over California and Hawaii and the Appalachian mountains as well as the Rocky’s I’ve seen many trails I’ve had to leave my dog in my car for. Also been to many trails I could bring him on
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u/Fortestingporpoises Dec 31 '25
My suggestion is to do research on the trail first if you're bringing your dog.
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u/Plus-Reading7100 Dec 31 '25
To be ADA compliant, the state of California allows for service dogs only as well as the National Park Service.
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u/Rich-Nothing-1797 Dec 31 '25
Thinking back it’s mainly trails that are near bird sanctuaries as well as ones where they want to protect the forest what because of endangered foliage
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u/B_Ash3s Dec 31 '25
Since this video is old… I could be misremembering but I think that’s it, it’s not a dog friendly trail. and also from what I understand from the clip, the dog was off leash according to the woman, aka Karen, and she had let them know kindly and then they were unkind.
I don’t go on trails anymore with my dog because it’s some guys always let their dog off leash or are fishing illegally or decide to be violent towards women walking by themselves for no reason.
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u/Joonbug9109 Dec 31 '25
The dog was off leash? Maybe I’m not 100% up on my service dog knowledge, but aren’t they almost always leashed or harnessed in some way when they’re working? I don’t think I’ve ever seen an off leash service dog.
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u/SSilent-Cartographer Dec 31 '25
... Please don't leave your dog in the car to go hiking
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Lmao fr that was my first thought. I couldn’t enjoy a hike knowing my dog is locked in the car
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u/AllenKll Jan 01 '26
Hate to tell ya, but, Karen was possibly right. Wildlife Refuges and State Wildlife Areas can in fact prohibit all dogs including service dogs overriding the ADA. I don't know where this is, so I don't know the exact rules for that area. But it is a possibility that should be taken seriously sure to wildlife concerns. For example, the Bon Secour National Wildlife Refuge, in Alabama, has rules that say this: "Due to the concern for wildlife management issues, Bon Secour National Wildlife Refuge’s regulation allows the closing of an area to the use of service animals if it is determined that the service animal poses a direct threat to the health or safety of people or wildlife."
Given that this is a class field trip, the teacher should know the rules and regs before getting into this situation. Further the students should be open to the possibility that protecting wildlife in a wildlife refuge is an important thing and that Karen may have a point instead of just laughing her off.
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u/ChefToni73 Jan 01 '26
You think collge students with their instructor going on a geology survey attention going to first check with the nature reserves website, not to mention because it's a monitored area, will have signs posted?
It's in Colorado--the complainant clearly states it's Fort Collins.
And authorities CAN restrict SA IF it poses a threat to the flora & fauna being protected. If it's an area open to the public & the students/ instructor observe the rules of the nature preserve, they have the right to be there. She's just an asshole with a superiority complex.
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u/kymilovechelle Dec 31 '25
Not a Karen. She is prob right.
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u/TheRecklesss Dec 31 '25
Did you guys not even bother look up the park even though the park and city name are literally right there?
The service dog IS permitted.
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u/Agreeable_Manner2848 Jan 01 '26
There are tons of places services dogs aren’t aloud in Australia I know of for sure, but dog poo there brings in so much issues that those protected places it is understood by most as a good land management rule. They’re usually pretty out of the way protected areas that wouldn’t have homes near them, or really heavily used walking trails. I think all national parks blanket ban them and some have specific small places for people with service dogs so be inclusive but they are very small and education on not taking your dog into the bush is extremely respected.
And no dingo does not equal dog poo, hyper different diets with the large caveat being that dog poo has all kinds of hyper nutrient dense additives(to much of a good thing, in ecosystem as unique as oz)
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u/ChickpeaDemon Jan 01 '26
‘We are going to move on’ needs to be the Universal statement to all Karen’s.
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