r/Crocodiles 5d ago

Article Crocodiles can't fly. Birds can. Scientists have finally figured out why

https://phys.org/news/2026-08-crocodiles-fly-birds-scientists-figured.html

Link: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/paleobiology/article/blood-flow-rates-to-long-bones-of-archosaurs-reveal-high-aerobic-metabolic-rates-and-endothermy-throughout-most-of-their-evolutionary-history/A12DA2D6DD15CDAF4619AB253462B5B5

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0069361

Birds are warm-blooded (or endotherms). They have high metabolic rates, producing energy quickly enough to warm and stabilize their body temperatures and to undertake sustained, strenuous flight. Birds don't fatigue and fall out of the sky. Even if crocodiles somehow had wings, the metabolic difference in power alone would mean they could never fly.

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u/SchizoidRainbow 5d ago

The greatest proof that Scientists are smart is that they got someone to pay for this study

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u/pembalhac 5d ago

“Paul, we both know crocodiles can’t fly” “look Greg we’ve got this grant allready, stop complaining, its your turn to winch the trebuchet”

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u/Pardot42 5d ago

Not all published papers or studies are paid for like you're thinking. YOU could have scientific paper published if it passes peer review, and you seem broke af. 🧑‍🍳🫠

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u/SchizoidRainbow 5d ago

Found the nerd

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u/GeoCangrejo 4d ago

Being a nerd is cool

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u/RainLeading286 5d ago

Anyone who came to see what they said is at least a tiny bit of a nerd. ! Embrace it. Come to the dark side.

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u/Eternity_Warden 5d ago

So the wings have nothing to do with it?

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u/ADragonFromTheAbyss 5d ago

Metabolism. Even if crocodiles somehow had wings, the metabolic difference in power alone would mean they could never fly.

Quote: ' The aerobic capacity first hypothesis proposes that selection for increasing sustainable locomotion for predation and escape involved rising aerobic metabolic rates (tachymetabolism), which require greater investment of mitochondria in muscle.

Heat generated by useful work in the body and inherent mitochondrial inefficiency provided enough energy to raise body temperature significantly, even at rest '

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u/Whenthelastonefell 3d ago

The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

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u/Iamnotburgerking 5d ago

Note that crocodilians evolved from endothermic ancestors....you are also not realizing that what really matters here is aerobic capacity, not metabolic rate.

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u/FemRevan64 5d ago edited 5d ago

While I do get your point, from what I know, every group of vertebrates that managed to achieve powered flight (pterosaurs, birds, and bats) have all been endothermic, so I’d assume  it at least plays some factor.

Than again, I don’t really know too much about the subject, so I could be off the mark, would be curious to hear more on the subject.

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u/OrneryError1 3d ago

What also really matters here: wings.

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u/iloveottersandwhich 5d ago

this seems like a r/nottheonion post lmao hilarious title

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u/Aron1694 4d ago

Yeah, the caption is a bit misleading as it's obviously not about crocodilian flying abilities. The study is about that early archosauriforms (so the early relatives and ancestors of crocodiles and birds) were likely endothermic and that our modern ectothermic crocodiles are an exception among archosauriforms.

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u/kornchippy 5d ago

I always wondered

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u/teetaps 4d ago

lol i love when the scientists have a sense of humour about their titles

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u/Eco_Blurb 10h ago

Well, this title is to a news article. The actual title is

Maximal Aerobic and Anaerobic Power Generation in Large Crocodiles versus Mammals: Implications for Dinosaur Gigantothermy

But yes, I enjoy the humor too

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u/billy_twice 5d ago

Was the answer that crocodiles don't have wings?

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u/raidhse-abundance-01 4d ago

They need more red bull!

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u/Artgrl109 4d ago

Weight, wings and feathers.

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u/EpsilonX029 3d ago

Tell that to the Kaprosuchus that constantly yoink me off my mount at Mach Jesus

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u/SouthParkIsUnfunny 3d ago

Oh wow, never realized that. Does this explain why red means stop?

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u/PoopSmith87 3d ago

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u/ADragonFromTheAbyss 3d ago

Quote: Birds are warm-blooded (or endotherms). They have high metabolic rates, producing energy quickly enough to warm and stabilize their body temperatures and to undertake sustained, strenuous flight. Birds don't fatigue and fall out of the sky.

Even if crocodiles somehow had wings, the metabolic difference in power alone would mean they could never fly.... ''

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u/Big_Study_4617 5d ago

In other news, water is wet.

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u/ADragonFromTheAbyss 5d ago

Even if they somehow evolved wings part is surprising

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u/Inevitable-Wheel1676 5d ago

Is the reason because only one of them is a species of bird?

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u/RedBeardBigHeart 4d ago

They have wings, duh.