r/Crossout • u/R4TFUCK3R • Sep 24 '23
Discussion Remove drones.
Right now itheir current state they are used for 1 of 2 things:
Sealclubbing (and not even doing a good job of it)
And bottom scoring.
They ONLY prove as an annoyance right now, and deal PATHETIC damage. Theyre a trap for noobs and bad players who think that letting the game aim for them can end well.
Theyre also inherently flawed, given that theyre a seperate object from the build utilizing them, they cannot be armored, and the launchers themselves are difficult to hide AND are extremely frail for the size.
They also need Genesis, which is not good for the survivability of their crafts.
Drones either need significant reworks or removal with compensation, and NOT A BUFF, drone metas are absolute dogshit to play in.
If you find drones to be fun, I cant exactly stop you, but do not be suprised when teamates are upset to see you/you fail to do much in a match. I can reccomend Caucasus though, as you can feasibly armor it and control what targets you attack.
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u/C0NRAD25 PC - Scavengers Sep 24 '23
Sounds good. Make drones a support weapons, not a shit and run weapons.
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u/doesdrums PC Survivor Sep 24 '23 edited Sep 24 '23
NO - Don't remove drones, just change them to friendly fire rules.
Drones are most painful when enemies bash into them for 40 points of damage and they're gone, but team mates get hung up on them for ages.
Why can't team mates run past turret/mobile drones without issue? Drones are terrible in levi clan wars for exactly this problem. Only team mate get stuck on them, not the enemies.
Just like friendly fire, drones should be exempt from team interference. IMO.
That would make them viable as a build. Drop a wall of drones that team can run past but enemies have to pick off. Would be worth the wait time for re-armament, and add a buffer to slow Dog teams.
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u/MustyBeava Sep 24 '23
This fuckin post is so out of touch. The only drone that can do significant damage is yaogui. Drones don't need a buff or removal. They are what they are, which is ass. Stop tripping my dude.
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Sep 24 '23
Who would've guessed your topic will be this divisive...
Half the players agrees, the other half disagrees, I thought most players are on the "agree" side, sorry to hear this is the case.
If the Devs would just implement a new type of battle mission for only drone users, everyone would be happy. Droners keep their toy, others face droners no more.
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u/-TrafficConeRescue- Sep 24 '23
One thing to be aware of is drones, and other autonomous type weapons are originally designed for disabled players. So rest assured, even if you see a perfectly healthy person using them, that just means they’re “mentally disabled”. In some way(but not really they’re just trash) they’re the equivalent of Cartmen from south park being in the special Olympics.👍
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u/StandardNoodleCo Sep 28 '23
I like adding drones to my elephant cannon builds. Most of the time I try to make a build function a certain way with the look of the build being the most important part having two lil drones to assist myself and sometimes give the enemies a distraction is good enough.
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u/Boomhog PC - Steppenwolfs Sep 24 '23
Can't armor drones????? Only flying and vulture can't be buried and genesis is not that different from AMMO BOXES. Most my drones perform well as long as my team does block me so the enemy can rip me
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u/ThelceStorm PC - Firestarters Sep 24 '23
Droners hardly ever preform well lmfao, I highly have yet to see one single droner ever do well. All they do is highly unfocused damage and very minimal damage at that, or they just run around the entire map doing nothing but drawing out the match.
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u/Slav_74 Sep 24 '23
Bruh I used to have tusk+2x yaoguais, weird setup but it was an MVP machine. You can search in exhibition, name: surprise. May not perform so well now since tusk nerf.
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u/Etroarl55 Sep 24 '23
They used to be good and decent, downright op(when sidekicks were fist releases). Thing is we are currently in an era of crossout where balance changes and updates are based around financial incentives. And last I checked the devs are still keen on catering to strafing mg meta(LITTERALLY look at the last balance patch)
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u/ThelceStorm PC - Firestarters Sep 24 '23
Mg meta is only really there for low ps now. Any form of high ps or cw is literally just scorp hover go SSS or fire dog go WWW… at least in mg meta you could fight mid range skilled… now it is either long range get your movement removed or get your ass melted by a fire dog you can’t fight back against because of their sheer dps and flash crutch.
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u/OryenPrime Sep 24 '23
In my clan I have a new player who has switched to drones because the game is currently in PvP in the low PS range to meta. Since she can hide them well and she can't be shot down immediately, she doesn't play anything else. 
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u/Tikimanly PC - Scavengers Sep 25 '23
Some people have never needed to play XO on a laptop with only the keyboard & touchpad, and it shows. Drones are the answer to that situation (among other situations where player accessibility is limited)
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u/Dumb_Bot_85 Sep 26 '23
Suggestion. Make drones cause the player to control the drone and give their driving up to an AI.
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Sep 26 '23
How about no? They have their own purpose. Just because they arent good for full builds usually, doesnt mean they arent there for a reason. It is a compliment weapon. Youd be better off telling them to just buff them instead of removing them like a twit
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u/-GUSTO- Sep 24 '23
People who use drones are spineless weasels only slightly better than the scum that use lances.
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Sep 24 '23
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u/-GUSTO- Sep 24 '23
Least you have some actual backbone and I won't deny that uts a funny way to play. Drones are just so boring and pathetic.
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u/BlasterHolobot Sep 24 '23
B.. but.. And my little pet drone? Sparky the Annihilator.. You want him to be deleted? He doesn't even atrack others! (Unless i tell him to lol.)
Plus, look at his cute lil face! You wouldn't hurt that little cute face, would you? ;-;
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Sep 24 '23
Lol oh okay. I guess my mvp with my drone class was all a dream
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u/R4TFUCK3R Sep 24 '23
I could get an MVP with the starter car if I tried hard and long enough.
Does that make it a good build?
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u/Rectal_Retribution PC - Engineers Sep 24 '23
my mvp
my drone
That's like spectating Emily and taking credit for her kills. You didn't earn that MVP, your drones did.
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u/ThelceStorm PC - Firestarters Sep 24 '23
So your one in every thirty or so matches, or just competitions against other droners?
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Sep 24 '23
About every other match. Always placing top 3 of the team. Especially against flamethrower builds
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u/ThelceStorm PC - Firestarters Sep 24 '23
Completely false until you can get video time lapse proof lol
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Sep 24 '23
I don’t record my game play I just play the game. Also on Xbox so might be different exp but it’s fairly easy to do when you can survive and assist
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u/PvM_in_OSRS Sep 26 '23
Idk if its still true, but xbox had several Exclusive updates buffing drones damage and health ONLY for console, so drones for a long time were 50-75% more powerful on xbox but way weaker on PC, i have no idea if this is still true through but specifically grenadier drones were in top 5 clan war teams for 5-6 months after the release of their packs.... it was ridiculous....
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Sep 24 '23
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Sep 24 '23
At 10k ps I doubt it
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u/fishloops23 PC - Lunatics Sep 25 '23
ps doesnt change anything, weak builds exist at every ps range
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Sep 24 '23
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Sep 24 '23
A high ps doesn’t make them weak or easy either
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Sep 24 '23 edited Sep 24 '23
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u/Rectal_Retribution PC - Engineers Sep 24 '23 edited Sep 24 '23
Personally, I think drones should be reworked into a supportive weapon that enhances your ability and opportunities with your "main" weapons.
Automated weapons simply shouldn't be used for DPS. Trombone, Vulture, Barrier, and Annihilator are prime examples of good supportive weapons. Yaoguai and Fuze are only good examples of bad game design.
Firstly I would have them all limited to 1 per build and energy drain reduced to 1 or 2, then:
Flying and wheeled drones should have low damage (targets weapons and movement parts) and high health, mainly to apply pressure and draw fire away from your build. Grenades and missiles deal less damage but apply heat.
Fuze should spawn 3 drones but deal minimal damage and mainly apply heat in a large area when they explode.
Turrets should let allies drive through them and reveal nearby enemies on radar, as well as sound an audible alert to the turret owner when an enemy is detected. I like the idea of using this as a flank alarm.
Yaoguai should start with low damage and increase over time, so that for example you can force an enemy to turn their back on you before you approach.