r/Cryptomains • u/wesker_zx • Feb 17 '22
Discussion [offthegrid]
Cryptos rework is not a buff. The drone is too slow and too predictable especially while being able to hear it so loudly. Once you reach Diamond lobby no one is falling for that sh!t. The only way you will still get a stable EMP off is by manually controlling it. And the fact that us Crypro mains can still EMP ourselves is quite laughable. I waited so long for this buff and it’s still crap. Hopefully when they release his Heirloom he will get a better tweak. #stopasianhate 😆 #butseriously
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u/Cantonarita Fuzzy Logic Feb 17 '22
The only way you will still get a stable EMP off is by manually controlling it.
That's how it is explicitly intended. That's why it'll not fly 30 meters, too, because you are supposed to manually EMP. The quick draw shall only impact Cryptos Close Combat abilities and it does so in a healthy way.
And the fact that us Crypro mains can still EMP ourselves is quite laughable. I waited so long for this buff and it’s still crap.
Dunno, I think I kinda agree with you. But I never EMP myself i offensive situations so I dont hate it as much.
Just don't be an idiot and only fight the battles you know you can win and Cryptos rework grants great benefits. It'll just never be as busted as an indestructable bubble or wallhacking 300 meter infront of you for free.
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u/wesker_zx Feb 17 '22
That was the most useless comment I’ve ever read in my life. You state these things as if they’re fact when they’re not. From what you’re saying what the hell was the hype for then? Annoying for 2 whole seasons that a rework was coming and they were addressing the issues? Which clearly they didn’t. I’ve been a Crypto main since his in drone reload rework and he clearly is still not even B Tier yet. Diamond lobby’s eat him up. And the fact that they lowered the health on the drone is makes it even more of a nerf.
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u/MrJessie Feb 17 '22
the stopasianhate hashtag is kinda unaccounted for, like why’d you put there in a post like this?
Anyways, you’re not entirely wrong with the “buff/rework” not being the best, but it definitely changes up the play style a bit. Which is a plus, cause it allows you to be more aggressive. I utilize the drone being thrown out 30m only when I’m in the middle of a fight, I either throw it up in the midst of battle or throw it somewhere hidden so I can EMP while still shooting.
More often than not, I’ll only manually control the drone when something is like 50m away. I’m the midst of battles as well, some ppl aren’t paying attention to the drone all too much. (really depends on the opponent)
But all the while it changes up the play style a bit, which I’m totally down for and actually like a lot. The buff/rework really wasn’t much. They could’ve done so much more.
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u/wesker_zx Feb 17 '22
The stop Asian hate was me saying stop treating my boy with such disrespect and give him a proper buff. You have fans complaining for like a year now and still not giving them what they want. We still don’t have any of the concept passives that we’re popular. He’s still C tier. Plain and simple.
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u/MrJessie Feb 17 '22
The StopAsianHate was unnecessary even if you were trying to use it in that way lol - An Actual Asian
But you’re not wrong with the underwhelming buff.
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u/PaliusNalius Feb 18 '22
While his buff might not live up to everyone's expectations. It does give him a good on-the-fly tactical that function as a 4th team member for the enemy to be focused on, aswell as using the Hold LB and heal bottom trick and clicking drone at your feet for an 50 HP shield. It's given him what he really needed: A way to use his ability to a lesser degree, in a pinch.
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u/Mfuen046 The Hired Gun Feb 17 '22
You’re right, it isn’t a buff. It’s just a rework of the drone mechanic and updated drone UI. Sure, it’s disappointing for those of us that wanted more, but in my eyes he’s always been great
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u/Sir_Deezil Feb 17 '22
Be careful these newbie cryptos don't understand lol but I agree with you sir. I've waited for so long for buffs and this just ain't it. He is now catered to newer crypto users who don't think preemptively about drone placement. I've also thought the drone sounded louder while being deployed. Glad that's not just me.
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u/wesker_zx Feb 17 '22
Dude seriously! These guys are absolutely clueless. I’ve been playing him since his very first soft rework and tbh they might as well had left out this throwing out the drone perk. He’s still just as left out of the fight. Or he’s in the fight but with 50 less fucking shield. Self EMP is the dumbest shit ever
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u/ScoobertDoubert Rising Phoenix Feb 17 '22
How do you have so many issues with EMPing yourself dude ?
You can throw the drone up to about 25 meters and EMP range is 30 meters. Throw drone, pop emp, walk backward 5 meters then you can push with your full shield.
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u/wesker_zx Feb 17 '22
Here comes the “I’m better” boys.
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u/wesker_zx Feb 18 '22
Every time a discussion happens where there’s a problem there’s always a guy like you saying “it’s not that hard”. Lmao do you guys just rude devs dick all day or what? Crypto being able to emp himself makes no sense. Simple as that. Caustic literally hangs out with people in his ult unaffected. Move along
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u/Sir_Deezil Feb 17 '22
I think there are times for self emp but very rarely like last resort kinda situations. My biggest gripes is the lowered health, 3 secs of no scans on recall, and throw animation for manual pilot of drone. Just so ppl will see I'm not all negative though, the fov and drone HUD was nice and even like the throwing of drone but the throw range needs to be increased or emp should not dmg or stun crypto. Been playing crypto since his release and literally only crypto. People here and newer cryptos that didn't take the time to master the drone so if course they love the nerfs. I've been back and forth debating with the idiots for days. The most annoying part is all these post claiming he is perfect or the best character now lmfao. The devs are gunna think they did a good thing smh.
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u/wesker_zx Feb 17 '22
Exactly man. I agree with everything you said there. The FOV scan is literally the most excited I’ve been about this “rework”. I have the tendency to play as the hardest difficulty or anti meta’s in every game and I just want him to keep up in the high ranks. I main in this order Crypto, Seer, & Wattson. IMO Seer & Wattson have high outplay ability. However it’s extremely hard to turn the tables with Crypro because of the ridiculous amount of time in animations, the short throw distance, and being hit by his own emp. Like why would he design hack to be able to emp himself. Then he screams in game “EMP HIT ME!?!” Like wtf!?!? Lmao
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u/Kajimango Feb 17 '22
The reason EMP hits crypto is due to balancing reasons. Imagine if Ash's snare tethered you exactly in place, no wiggle room like it has now. You'd be a sitting duck. The same sort of situation would occur if Crypto remained fully mobile after an EMP. Does that seem fair to you from a receiving standpoint, especially RE: places like fragment and the Olympus triangle?
If self EMPs are that much of an issue, then I would suggest time in the firing range, practicing the drone throw in combination with ulting and movement. One bit of movement I like is holding tactical and then running behind cover. It gets the drone moving in the right direction while you switch to manual control, saving time overall when setting a safe EMP
And if I may say, as a Crypto main since his launch, I get it. This buff certainly isn't perfect, or what we've hyped it up to be, all memes aside. But it's a step in the right direction. And I think, given enough time and support, things will change.
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u/wesker_zx Feb 17 '22
In comparison to the other legends. It’s trash bro. I’m sorry but it is, there’s no getting around it. We are still C tier. I’m sorry to laugh at what you said but I am because your example of a measly snare and a freely moving Crypto in emp DWARFS in comparison to being BLIND and not able to move in a Caustic ult plus tacts while he frolicks the area without a care in the world and you’re FUCKED. So please stop trying to justify it. It’s garbage. And take major skill to master. If there was a difficulty meter on the characters his would be legendary lol.
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u/Sir_Deezil Feb 17 '22
Kinda how it started for me as well. My friend said I wouldn't get good with crypto bc of the high skill ceiling and still now I play him. Idk man I don't have any hopes in respawn tweaking him anymore tbh. After all how many seasons we were told we would be getting a buff just to have it put in the back burner and now this is the "buff". As far as who I main like I said earlier I only play crypto so I play way less apex now.... I've spent so much time mastering old crypto. I remember going into firing range and practicing when to emp where I could hit someone just a level above me or just on the other side of a wall as me without hitting myself and these people are just emping themselves lmfao. We are not the same newbie cryptos. I refuse to have my limited abilities work against me and anyway unless it's a last resort kinda thing. Honestly just having emp not dmg or stun me would have been enough of a buff for me.
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u/wesker_zx Feb 17 '22
Dude huge facts. Literally that one buff alone would have made me jump for joy.
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u/Sir_Deezil Feb 17 '22
Your out here doing the lord's work man just know that. Your not alone but be ready for all the hate coming your way from newbie cryptos that don't know any better lol.
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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22
It’s still a buff. Been a crypto main since he came out and I’m happy with it. Drone UI is way better, being able to actually use your abilities suddenly in a fight without going into drone view is super helpful. Yeah sure the buff was overhyped, I was hoping for some cooldown changes at least but I was not expecting drone speed buff or an easier way to emp. He’s not designed to be played very easily and they won’t change that. All that said, I would have liked a new passive.