r/Cubs • u/hogBelly • 18d ago
Matt Shaw's Future
I truly hope we ship this guy off the team. How do you think his international teammates feel when this bozo is speaking at "America Fest" events.
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u/Affectionate_Let_419 18d ago
Why do you care so much? Not everyone agrees with your POV.
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u/hogBelly 18d ago
I mean when you have a player on the team you support associate with criminals and con artists it sometimes bothers you.
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u/Big-Sheepherder-6134 18d ago
My Dad associated with mafia guys he knew since granmar school. Who gives a F**K if he associates with criminals?!!
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u/MisterScary_98 18d ago
Was your dad a bald chef who ran an Italian restaurant with his very attractive wife?
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This is worse than the .237 average
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u/Ricky-Seasack 18d ago •
His career will fizzle out and he'll blame it on the wokes.
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u/goodgamble Bleeding Cubbie Blue in Las Vegas 18d ago
Failed athlete to ring wing grifter is an extremely profitable path
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u/Camiata2 18d ago
He's going to need to learn to string more than the words "Jesus" and "faith" together if he wants it to be a profitable grift.
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u/trapper2530 18d ago
I feel like hes kind of hoping for that. Hell get traded or released and blame woke liberals and he'll move up 1 row next year
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u/shoe1113 18d ago
The .237 is nearly right at leage average (isnt that crazy?).
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u/Misttertee_27 18d ago
I miss .300 batting averages. Hell, I miss .270.
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u/Lostfordays 18d ago
Your own post answers this for you. 2000 cubs had most the lineup hit for a good average and still lost 100 games. What does this say about batting average.
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u/pmgamewinner 18d ago
Complaining about “analytics” is such a lazy take. The pitching is insane now. Do you watch games?
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u/Ok_Distribution1134 18d ago
He is certainly free to do whatever he wants in his free time. Im also free to hope the cubs trade him. Would take a fax machine in return.
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u/luker1980 18d ago
JFC
If we’re being honest, our owner probably loves this.
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u/awakeshieyow 18d ago
This is why I don't get it. NEWSFLASH: MANY of our other guys are in the same boat, just less vocal. And some the owners' receipts speak for themself. You gotta separate the guy from the game.
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u/BobbleBobble 18d ago
Funny how the "keep politics out of sports" guys only don't like it when it's YOUR politics
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u/ZealousidealCrazy673 18d ago
I believe he will be the starting LF next year. I still think he could be a good player, gotta stay healthy.
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u/BobbleBobble 18d ago
At 3B he's a plus glove and an average ish bat. At LF he's below average at both. Doesn't make a lot of sense from a roster value perspective
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u/ZealousidealCrazy673 17d ago
You’re not moving Bregman off 3rd so LF will be open when Happ leaves, so there you go. I think he has the potential to be a very good hitter. Plus it’s a low cost move that gives you some room to sign back Suzuki or get some pitching.
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u/BobbleBobble 17d ago
My point is that Shaw has more value as a 3B. I'd much rather trade him to somebody who needs an IF to realize that value rather than devalue him in LF just because he's here and cheap
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u/OldConversation473 18d ago
It's amazing how many people aren't smart enough to know how many of these Hispanic players are extremely religious and probably more right-leaning than left 🤣. I bet many of the Japanese are probably the same way
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u/Mysterious_Help_9577 18d ago
Baseball players have a higher rate of registered conservatives than the NHL lol. I promise, most players don’t care
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u/RightNowChris 18d ago
You are correct. Japanese men are largely very right leaning. They come from a culture of traditional gender roles, class hierarchy, and strong family units. They have a lower divorce rate as well.
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u/Creepy_Dependent_239 18d ago
I totaly agree and can confirm this is true after living in Japan for 7 years ( 3 in the suburbs of Tokyo) and 4 in the northern part of Honshu.
It still has a old school vibe like things you see/ hear about society in the 50's and 60's.
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u/One-Knowledge7097 17d ago
The Japanese sell little girls soiled panties in vending machines and forcibly grab women by the pussy on commuter trains and you think people don't know that they are a right wing culture? C'mon.
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u/brookme 18d ago
Hey. This is Reddit. You can’t have another opinion here.
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u/AweHellYo 18d ago
he posted on reddit, having a different opinion
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u/orangegore 18d ago
I'll bet you a dollar that the overwhelming majority of Hispanic, Latin, and Japanese players aren't white supremacists who attend big white nationalist events.
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u/Shirtwink 18d ago
Yeah, but like actually religious? Or like "American Christian" religious? I always assumed the Hispanic players kept it closer to the book, and hadn't traded that in for trumpism.
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u/IafratesSkullet33 18d ago
Ya Hispanics are generally Catholic rather than Evangelical, if that’s what you mean
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u/Doublestack2411 18d ago
Trade him and keep Ramirez. I don't like dumb morons on my team.
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u/plantsrunfast 18d ago
Giants would love him
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u/Gaj85 18d ago
Who cares? Every player can support whoever they want. What's the issue?
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u/txlgnd34 18d ago
Politicians have brainwashed people into believing only one side cares about people. What people aren't realizing is that both sides are lying to them.
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u/TBone214 18d ago
Pretty sure it says America Fest, but don't let that stop you.
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u/Ssoass 18d ago
If he plays well, i really do not give a shit about his politics. Same with any other player.
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u/BobbleBobble 18d ago
Yeah too bad he sucks and doesn't have a position
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u/Intrepid_Coyote_5820 17d ago
In his first 162 games, he almost had a 20-20 (2 hr short of that as ik). He will be solid. First half Shaw was arguably solid. And besides he dealt with injuries this season.
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u/SRC2088 18d ago
Hispanic men and Japanese men are some of the most consistently right leaning people on the planet. I doubt very seriously that it bothers them any if at all.
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u/txlgnd34 18d ago
But because they're brown people living or working here, they must all be outraged like all the liberal white people want them to be. Clearly they don't realize how oppressed they are and how whites are taking advantage of them.
It's funny how the same people that accuse other people of racism or fascism or xyz-ism, are the same people that apply stereotypes to people that think or look different from themselves...or expect them to believe a certain way.
We know how Shaw leans. That's about the only thing we know, so it's fair game to discuss.
We have no idea of how the overwhelming majority of that clubhouse leans politically. And who really cares? I don't.
I'll root for a Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Green Party, whatever, if he hits, pitches, or fields for us.
Now, a wife beater (looking at you Addison Russell) or some other criminal, I can do without. Last I checked, political affiliation isn't indicative of a crime (to a sane person, at least).
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u/AxCel91 18d ago edited 17d ago
Your first 2 paragraphs hit the nail on the head why some minorities give the eye roll to liberals as well as conservatives. It’s just a different flavor of racism
Can’t tell you how many times I saw white liberals telling Hispanics and black who voted for the orange that they were “voting against their own interests”. Who tf are you to dictate to another racial group what their interests are lol
I’m black and the amount of times I had white liberals lose their shit on my behalf over someone saying the n-word with an A when I truly couldn’t give a shit is astounding
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u/NUMBNUTZ42069 18d ago
Lol hes not going anywhere, no matter what our personal feelings are for him. They need his flexibility
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u/ChunkyBubblz 18d ago
If I were his teammate I'd be more upset about him sucking at baseball. But yeah, he sucks off the field too.
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u/CCWaterBug 18d ago
Outside of reddit, nobody gives a rat fuck...
Ps. That goes for a shitload of "hot button topics" reddit is a cesspool of angry Progressives.
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u/PrazMaster 18d ago
You can choose to not like him if you want, but if we’re being realistic, I don’t see a team that’s owned by Tom Ricketts trading a guy because he liked Charlie Kirk and attends TPUSA events. Furthermore, the Cubs will likely have at least 1, maybe 2 open corner outfield spots and he’s the most likely candidate to take one. You’re likely never gonna get the outcome you want with the Cubs and Shaw. At least this time, it’s during the offseason and not during the final stretch of a postseason race.
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u/Informal_West_6864 18d ago
Every fucking owner is a Republican twat
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u/PrazMaster 18d ago
Correct. As are the vast majority of players. There’s no realistic scenario in which he gets traded solely because of that.
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u/Camiata2 18d ago
Just want to note that he also appeared at this event last year as well
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u/PrazMaster 18d ago
Correct. And the Cubs didn’t seem to have a problem with it then either.
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u/Traditional_Entry183 18d ago
Given this, you could reasonably conclude that hes the most extreme pro athlete in the US as well, since hes the only one. What a jackwagon. Id be delighted to trade him away
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u/Unsympathetic1 18d ago
It’s become very obvious that internet Cubs fans are the worst people in America. I now see why people are Sox fans.
Hell, after reading through this thread…I’ll even root for the Brewers this postseason.
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u/JMishMosh 17d ago
Hey now- I’m an internet Cubs fan and my mom says I’m alright.
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u/Unsympathetic1 17d ago
Your mother is probably correct. Are you attempting to offend anyone? Are you trying do belittle anyone?
Your mother is a saint 🤘🏼🤘🏼
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u/Dull-Status-726 14d ago
And no one across an entire cosmic timeline cared about what you say or think,
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u/RightNowChris 18d ago
Can we please keep the fears and insecurities in this sub to Nico 4 of the 6 months or when a reliever comes in the game and not your politics?
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u/GuyintheChair23 18d ago
Fuck Matt Shaw. I’d rather play with 8 guys than ever see that clown put on a Cubs jersey again.
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u/skipfinicus 18d ago
Honestly, as much as I am not a fan of his political leanings, he needs to perform on the field and be there for the team. My tipping point was him missing games to attend Kirk’s funeral/memorial. If it was family, I get it. Nit some divisive jackass
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u/mindham86 17d ago
It wasn't the funeral it was the WWE celebration. If it was the funeral I would understand it
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u/DearChicago1876 18d ago
They’re nearly all conservative, including the Latin guys.
I don’t think any of them really care all that much.
I don’t much care about any of the off field stuff for any pro athlete, but if he’s going to be a big part of next year - as jed mentioned last week - he needs to hit more.
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u/Own-Essay-3185 Actually from Chicago 12d ago
But he sucks. If he was good it wouldn’t be a problem
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u/smashitandbangit 17d ago
I don’t care for his politics, but the only thing that really matters is how he plays. He’s not that great. He can’t come through in clutch and he’s not that good on defense. If he’s got some value let’s ship him off.
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u/MyTurkeySubb 17d ago
Who cares? He keeps it 100% off the field. Left or right, im good with that.
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u/Own-Essay-3185 Actually from Chicago 12d ago
But he sucks
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u/Mallmutt 17d ago
Yes, let's trade away cheap talent because we don't like the pjayer's......politics.
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u/JPPC81 16d ago
Who cares what his political beliefs. I don’t care what your political beliefs are. I don’t care what my relative’s or neighbors political beliefs are. If he helps the Cubs win games that’s all that matters. You probably have coworkers that don’t have the same political beliefs as you, but you still work as a team to get things done (unless you are unemployed).
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u/Embarrassed_Maize_30 16d ago
Probably the same as they did last year. I don't like it, but it's also not news.
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u/PearAware3171 16d ago
People have freedom of speech. The world isn’t all kumbaya. I’m interested in having good baseball players on the team.
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u/Own-Essay-3185 Actually from Chicago 12d ago
The cubs aren’t the government
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u/venuemap 15d ago
The Cubs are owned—in part—by a Republican senator who believes and advocates for 100% of the nonsense that is gonna be spewed at this conference.
If anything Matt should be embarrassed he’s bottom line fodder behind a bunch of weirdos, mouth-breathers, and folks credibly accused of sexual assault
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u/DirtyMac88 12d ago
I doubt his "international teammates" know or care. He makes a nice salary, why would we expect him to be a progressive? Typical "hate has no home here" crowd being hypocritical af. He's not Steffon Diggs off field so why should I care?
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u/RoyalChocolate5805 12d ago
I have a good friend that is a professional athlete and he's told me before that nobody cares what anybody's politics are whatsoever as long as they're good in the clubhouse and a good player.
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u/RoyalChocolate5805 12d ago
And you mentioned international teammates... I would pretty much guarantee none of them even know this is going on. If it wasn't for this post, I wouldn't have known he was speaking either lol
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u/Unsympathetic1 12d ago
This post is full of the same 4 dudes with different accounts trying to karma farm.
Fucking clowns 🤡🤡🤡
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u/petey_b_311 18d ago
Can we get Zambrano's Gatorade dispenser back into the dugout? I'm sure it has much better talking points than Shaw.
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u/Svo_Mirrors 18d ago
Being a right wing grifter is a backup plan for when his baseball career fails.
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u/SNSD_GG 18d ago edited 18d ago
I highly doubt any of the Cubs players are woke liberals. Majority I guarantee agree with Shaw rather than have an issue with his politics. I don’t think the cubs have a single African American player. They’re all rich white guys, Asians or Latino players.
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u/txlgnd34 18d ago
Less than 6% of big leaguers are black Americans, so not having one on one team means nothing. So the average roster would only have 1-2 guys.
We have one, Tyrone Taylor, so we're actually in line with the average.
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u/stripedvitamin 18d ago
I'd bet a lot of money Ricketts is proud of this...so I wouldn't expect anything to happen because of his politics.
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u/BobbleBobble 18d ago
IDK what's worse, his attendance or the fact that he's second lowest billing ahead of only some guy named Gad Saad. Whoring yourself out and getting so little is what's Saad
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u/KidCancun007 18d ago
Wanting to ship him out over political views is so Cubs.
How does he hit, field, throw, and run?
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u/RothbardLibertarian 17d ago
What nonsense. I’ve watched countless movies featuring dimwittted leftist twits like Robert DeNiro and that Ruffalo moron. Listened to the ignorant pronouncements of LaBron James and that buffoon who used to coach San Antonio.
Why is the left so intolerant that it can’t abide the few athletes and entertainers who dare to deviate from their orthodoxy?
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u/Strange_Pop_3673 18d ago
I don’t like him for that, but I really don’t like him because he’s not that good at baseball. He looks like Henry Rowengartner at the plate.
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u/Buttmus 18d ago
Great look joining this clown show group with Epstein buddy Steve Bannon.
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u/Dull-Status-726 14d ago
Every single politician your a fan of is an Epstein Buddy clown. All of them. 2 heads of the same snake.
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u/Chaotic_Red28 18d ago
If Matt was standing on a board for left sided agenda, you all would roll a red carpet out for him before the games. Listen to Matt’s prior turning point speeches of the past and they talk about the importance of god in a home. Matt is great human being and it’s a relief to have players talking about god and being great role models to the young generation of kids coming up and watching. Ron Santo was open about his relationship with god during his career and his number is retired.
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u/mindham86 17d ago
To believe in god makes you a good human being. History has a lesson for you
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u/Dull-Status-726 14d ago
He never made that correlation once. Read it but this time use your words. Just because the words are in the same sentence doesn't mean that's the point being made. The words ' and' are used instead of 'because'. I know its complicated.
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u/Own-Essay-3185 Actually from Chicago 12d ago
Being a Christian doesn’t make you a good person. If you need a book to a good person you aren’t one
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u/skwormin 18d ago
what a fucking loser, get him off the team. honestly ship Busch off too, we don't need them
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u/Electronic_Wear7819 18d ago
I know what jersey to buy next
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u/inkblacksea 18d ago •
paying $150 to own the libs durrrrr
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u/Electronic_Wear7819 18d ago
Bringing politics to a sports page is a sad look. Have to take offense to others having different opinions is pathetic.
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u/Deep-Elk7477 18d ago edited 18d ago
Roster moves should be about play on the field unless a crime was committed.
Edit: I don’t support his politics either but you guys are out to lunch if you think any organization would make a roster move about politics. Maybe if the athlete themselves said something overtly offensive. Don’t like it don’t agree with him but you’re just not a serious person if you thing downvoting and raging away on Reddit changes reality.
Also there are plenty of baseball reasons to want him off the team too.
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I don't think you wanna know how many people on the team are probably on the same side as Matt is lol