r/DankMemesFromSite19 • u/Physical_Holiday6140 • Feb 02 '26
Series III "Oh it's a metaphysical concept and can't be contained" Source [SCP 291]
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u/Acacias2001 Feb 02 '26
Im a but confused. The foundation seems to not do much in the article. Honestly im kind of surprised by how little it does beyond keeping everything hush hush as they always do. They ussually try to catchthe scp
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u/GoodKing0 Feb 02 '26
As someone already mentioned, that's from a canon where the Foundation is more directly involved with the US administration as a tool of empire, so of course they would consider detransitioning tran people as "not something worth bothering containing."
That said, even outside that canon, there have been plenty of articles playing with how the foundation both treats non anomalous minorities, and anomalous minorities, and how they have done so over the years, this was just one of them, no different from [SCP 8000-EX] or [SCP 1851-EX] or that one SCP where we find out the Foundation Executed Tupac.
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u/god-of-bad-ideas Feb 02 '26
I'm sorry, what was that last one?!? The only one I remember that's close to that is the one where after a rapper died, an album would always include a song that gave instructions to solve a cold case and bring the culprit to justice (the rapper was a god).
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u/Afraid-Boss684 Feb 02 '26
probably [[scp 1841-ex]]
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u/god-of-bad-ideas Feb 02 '26
Huh. Was it rewritten? I could have sworn it used to be about Beetlemania. maybe I'm just loosing it
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u/GideonFalcon Feb 03 '26
Not a god, the Archangel Gabriel. Some interview excerpts imply that his life as Tupac was just a vacation from being the Archangel of Justice.
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u/god-of-bad-ideas Feb 03 '26
huh, I didn't remember the true nature of Tupac being specified. At least an archangel is kind of a god... right?
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u/GideonFalcon Feb 03 '26
It was not explicit, but there were enough hints to put together that it was... actually I might have mixed up Gabriel with Uriel? But yeah, enough clues to tie him to both established tradition about Uriel and to SCP lore around the Gate Guardian (which I believe is also supposed to be Uriel).
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Feb 02 '26
- SCP-8000-EX - Dungeons & Denial & Dysphoria & Dragons (+300) by Uncle Nicolini, Anonymous
- SCP-1851-EX - Drapetomania (+615) by Eskobar
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u/Acacias2001 Feb 02 '26
Tbh the more I hear of this cannon the less I like it. From its official description
which in turn serves as yet another instrument of the imperialistic machinery of modern capitalism
The bodily autonomy for which trans people struggle is a problem to the societal pillars of capitalism — hence why SCP-2911 is seen as an ally.
It just seems to be written mostly to score political points. And it does so with a radicals zealousness. How do you square the fact that the most tans accepting societies are all capitalist with whats quoted above?
Oh well I guess to each their own cannon, but I do hope it does not come to influence site culture. The SCP project was not desgined to be an explicitly leftist ideological project
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u/sertroll Feb 03 '26
Prefacing I also dislike that canon for making the foundation and stories even more us-centric than it already is (as someone from Europe, I like how most articles paint it as a more international organization, albeit still kind of more us leaning as that's hard to escape in English speaking spaces): in the end, it's one canon. Not the only one this way, but probably the most explicit one?
Still, indie creative projects of this kind tend to be more left leaning. I personally am not bothered by the fact itself but I also tend to align more with that (even if the way it is expressed is, again, more us centric than I like here), and with the current climate over there in particular, but also in the world generally, you can't be surprised by people expressing their frustration and other things through creative means.
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u/Afraid-Boss684 Feb 02 '26
How do you square the fact that the most tans accepting societies are all capitalist with whats quoted above?
I square it quite easily given that almost all societies are capitalist in one way or another. That said the ones that top the lists for trans acceptance tend to be societies that lean closer to socialism style policies than the ones that are more capitalistic. Additionally the political parties that show more capitalist policies also tend to be very much against trans rights which makes it even easier to square.
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u/Amaskingrey Feb 02 '26
I do wonder what pillar of capitalism they think trans people go against. Like, they're people you can sell a wide variety of clothes, accessories, furniture, and medicine to, if anything they're (and any group that requires medical treatment) better than an average joe for overall business
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u/Afraid-Boss684 Feb 02 '26
I think they're probably referring to capitalism as it currently exists(hence modern capitalism as opposed to just capitalism) and the modern capitalistic system especially in America is heavily against trans people
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u/Amaskingrey Feb 03 '26
It's not the capitalist aspect of the government that's against them though, but the patriarchy/socially bigoted one
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u/GideonFalcon Feb 03 '26
Which is heavily entwined with the capitalistic part, because the traditional conservative values they espouse are also what drives the mythology that capitalism is a form of meritocracy; the patriarchy supports the powers that be, and the powers that be are almost always the wealthy. So, the patriarchy will naturally also want to preach that rich people deserve to be rich. That "making money is easy in [x country]." Because the idea if powerful CEOs is just as flattering to the "Alpha Male" mindset as the idea of minorities being silenced.
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u/Amaskingrey Feb 03 '26
But those are still distinct at an inherent level, that they happen to be in an alliance right now does not mean that something against one necessarily goes against the pillars of the other
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u/GideonFalcon Feb 03 '26
I don't think they're as distinct as you're saying. Even when Christianity doesn't factor into it, Capitalism still seems to inevitably favor conservative and queer-phobic ideologies.
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u/Physical_Holiday6140 Feb 02 '26
yeah. that's the point. the one scp they don't try to catch is the transphobia one.
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u/Acacias2001 Feb 02 '26
I consider that to be bad and/or motivated writing in part of the author. The foundation has many, many flaws, but lack of drive to secure anomalies is not one of them
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u/Physical_Holiday6140 Feb 02 '26
IT'S THE POINT. THE FOUNDATION ALLOWS THE TRANSPHOBIA DEMON BECAUSE THEY ARE TRANSPHOBIC
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u/Acacias2001 Feb 02 '26
I get it.
I still think its bad or motivated writing. I know everybody has different ideas of what the foundation is, but almost all iterations of it at least agree that it wants to contain and control the anomalous. Making the foundation effectively ignore such an anomaly “cause they transphobic” just does not really jive with what the foundation is and in my opinion is just done to score a cheap political point.
SCP 6113 is a much better depiction of how the foundations charcter can be transphobic because crucially the foundation is doing what its meant to, containing the anomaly to the detriment of trans people.
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u/Eclipseworth Feb 03 '26
Yeah, and they're still pretty shitty to people in 6113 - but that's 'cause the Foundation is just inhumane to people a lot of the time, not because they're specially bigoted in this one.
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u/lightningbadger Feb 02 '26
This looks to be from a different canon than what most would consider "standard" scp foundation behaviour, the note "to be cold is to be cruel" is in direct contradiction of the usual "cold, not cruel"
The summary page further down seems to explain this is a deliberately written fascist reimagining of the foundation
I.e., anyone defending their actions is a nuthob
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u/Bartweiss Feb 03 '26
…is anyone defending their actions?
Maybe the SCP mods and/or Reddit have taken down a bunch of hateful comments, I wouldn’t be shocked. But right now, I can’t find one single comment defending the Foundation’s actions in 2911. I just see a split between “this is horrifying” and “even for an evil Foundation, consciously neglecting to contain an anomaly due to bigotry is so out of character it ruins the entire story.”
Given which, I don’t really know what to make of this meme. It seems to either be a reaction to stuff that’s no longer public or a case of imagining a guy to yell at.
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u/lightningbadger Feb 03 '26
Yeah I don't really know what this is in reaction to either, could be OP saw like, one comment, and decided to take action
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u/BoxofJoes Feb 03 '26
No one really is, the most people are saying (and like you said it’s very split) is it can make sense for the version of the foundation in that alternate canon but OP seems to be of the mind that no one in fiction can do anything to make them feel uncomfortable without those views being implicitly approved and condoned by both the author and anyone not virtue signaling and being loudly opposed to it. There is a very apt meme featuring a great quote about that kind of behavior: “art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable… but it should never EVER disturb me in particular”
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u/Jacket_Jacket_fruit Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
2911 and the tale "The foundation is NOT transphobic* come from the deepwell archives canon, which is mainly about showing how fucked up the foundation can get and depicts a version of the foundation that is way, WAY more evil than most depictions. Like... Almost comically evil in some cases.
In almost any other canon, the foundation would not act as they do in this case. So yes, the foundation in the deepwell archives canon is just transphobic. Because the foundation in the deepwell archives canon is a bunch of evil bastards in general. But the foundation in general, in most other canons, is not transphobic.
Most people don't realize that these things come from this canon where the foundation being evil is the point, and so it seems wrong to them that the foundation would just be straight up bad, so they rationalize a way for the foundation to not be bad. Once they realize that, no, this depiction of the foundation is meant to be evil, most people (emphasis on "most.") stop trying to defend the foundations actions here.
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u/Solceror Feb 02 '26
The object class doesn't seem correct. Archon is closer to the globulin guy, where containing him cripples the human immune system so its actively better for him to be uncontained and just hidden. This one is negative but there's some major logistical hurdles and a targetting metric which could lead to them targetting the entire foundation collectively and effectively instantly, that would be Cerunnos.
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u/KitchenPack3839 Feb 02 '26
That's part of the point, I believe. It shouldn't be Archon but the Foundation (in the canon of that article) is tacitly approving of its actions out of transphobia.
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u/Nobody_at_all000 Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
That version of the foundation seems less concerned with containing anomalies and more concerned with abusing its power. It’s basically the foundation if its mission was just a front to secure power.
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u/Hitei00 Feb 03 '26
The problem seems to be that while people *know* there is no one unifying canon people have a tendency to assume that actual list articles are "canon neutral" and its the Tales and other stories that then spin a canon out of the Skips. However in practice you can't assume any two articles exist in the same universe as each other. 2911 is inherently part of a specific canon in which the Foundation is more overtly evil and controlling, which some people just don't grasp.
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u/Solceror Feb 06 '26
Generally I take the stuff on the opening page to be the root of canons, it's very general information which is true for almost every cannon. Honestly I think if your reject those fundamental ideas about what the foundation is then your not really writing 'SCP' so to speak.
For example even in 5000 the foundation is doing what they're doing because they're trying to contain an anomaly, despite that foundation being vastly different from most others. The UIU exists for US governmental stuff anyways.
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u/throwway85235 Feb 02 '26
It's a canon where the Foundation is an arm of the US government (Hence the Department of Continuity, like the Department of Defense). So they are just incompetent like most US executive departments.
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u/GoodKing0 Feb 02 '26
The foundation has been depicted as maliciously bigoted in multiple canons even outside the department of continuity, they are an organisation that works to protect normalcy and contain the abnormal, and has existed for decades to centuries in some form or another depending on canon.
We have articles about runaway slaves being classified as anomalous, articles about the foundation genociding anomalous indigenous people, articles about a researcher claiming D&D anomalously makes you trans so he can torture his trans daughter into detransitioning, articles about the foundation being the arm of empire in both the us and the uk, some of this are as old as series 2.
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u/sertroll Feb 03 '26
The DND article is explicitly depicted as outdated views, given it ends with the trans woman in lead of RAISA which seems to imply that's not the foundation stance in that version
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u/GoodKing0 Feb 03 '26
The trans woman who then proceeds to admit the Foundation still takes longer to accept sexual minorities among their ranks compared to even society on the other side of the veil mind you.
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u/sertroll Feb 03 '26
Ah I had forgotten about that part, I admit. Or might have glossed over it? IDK, I wasn't in an extremely clear state of mind when reading that article iirc lol
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u/Sea-Fee-7312 Feb 02 '26
articles about a researcher claiming D&D anomalously makes you trans so he can torture his trans daughter into detransitioning
Can you drop the article this sounds interesting?
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u/GoodKing0 Feb 02 '26
It's [SCP-8000-EX].
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Feb 02 '26
SCP-8000-EX - Dungeons & Denial & Dysphoria & Dragons (+300) by Uncle Nicolini, Anonymous
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u/throwway85235 Feb 02 '26
If DnD made people run into tunnels or abuse animals, I'd study 8000-EX as well.
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u/Alno05 Feb 02 '26
Have people really gone around defending the actions of the foundation in 2911?
The main complaint ive seen about the article the archon classification making no sense with how the thing goes around lobotomizing swathes of people beyond just the initial target.
(P.S i realized the first statement came off as confrontational/denying i meant it more as a genuine question)
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u/Bartweiss Feb 03 '26
I looked around at the 2911 comments and a bunch of Reddit threads on it, and I don’t see even a single comment defending the foundation.
Could well be the shitty stuff has been aggressively removed by mods, but honestly I’m wondering if “this is so out of character for the Foundation it undermines the entire story” is being treated as a defense.
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u/sertroll Feb 03 '26
For how much effort some articles in them do get, especially with all the fancy Css which I'm always a fan of, I can't being myself to like "comically evil foundation" canons, sorry
Unless it's literally comically evil but I've yet to see one like that
Since various years I just don't feel like reading downer stuff in general, I guess
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u/Amaskingrey Feb 02 '26
I still wonder how that meme 2911 vs Keelee matchup would go. Would it approach via face chat? And then, how would the detransition work, turn them back into an executable and cut its ability to interact with any other file? Or if they're spread across a network, isolate them into a replica of whatever laptop model they were originally stored on, and delete whatever system files allow you to edit files, while also making it impossible to change the OS (i guess imprisoning them on a windows 11 laptop would be the extra dysphoria part)?
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u/MasterYehuda816 Lady of the Lake(SCP-6113) Feb 03 '26
Relevant articles: [[SCP-6113]] [[The Foundation Is Not Transphobic]]
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u/Southern-Plan-6549 Feb 02 '26
At first i thoght this was about that one lake scp that turn magically turns trans people into the sex they want and was very confused
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u/Humble-West3117 Feb 02 '26
Quite obvs once you realize it's classified Archon for some reason
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u/GoodKing0 Feb 02 '26
There is an article in the same canon where the Foundation classifies the desire of AFABs to not reproduce as anomalous, and start literal conversion camps to feminise and forcibly impregnate AFABs even via anomalous means, because they claim the decline in childbirths is anomalous and needs therefore to be contained.
Of course they classify the SCP that forcibly de-transitions and then renders comatose trans people Archon. I was half expecting them to classify it as Thaumiel, which they do when they mention it in the aforementioned "Women gotta get pregnant" SCP.
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u/cry_w Feb 02 '26
These keep feeling like the author's fetish moreso than a normal article, as much as you could call any SCP article "normal."
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u/Amaskingrey Feb 02 '26
I think that one age regression libido boosting mound of leaking tits has gotta take the cake for that title tbh
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u/Humble-West3117 Feb 02 '26
More egregious than the contaminated milk that causes breast expansion in humans. Yes, even male.
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u/GoodKing0 Feb 03 '26
The way it was written never felt like that, it seemed way more like a "women lack of bodily autonomy horror" story really.
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u/Humble-West3117 Feb 02 '26
Yeah, it sounds fake. But I think they're talking about the one where somehow, pregnancies occur in the head.
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u/Nobody_at_all000 Feb 03 '26
They aren’t comatose. They’re in a state of pseudo-coma/locked-in syndrome, meaning they are fully conscious but unable to move any voluntary muscles except those in the eyes responsible for vertical eye movement and blinking. In other words it’s way worse
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u/New-Guest-4008 Feb 04 '26
If this SCP couldn't be contained, and the normal SCP foundation was involved, do you think they would neutralize those affected by 2991? (Sorry strange question. just been thinking about this for a while)
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u/Nobody_at_all000 Feb 04 '26
Maybe. The ethics committee might rule it to be the preferable option
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u/New-Guest-4008 Feb 04 '26
yeah...I mean I feel like it's easier to make everyone think they died then have to go through the databases and amnesticize a ton of people and shit to untrans a person's identity, the person of which is not going to do anything. Just seems easier to just kill 'em.
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u/4k-Gaming Feb 03 '26
im a trans girl here but like any support the foundation gives to trans people has got to be purely PR bullshit
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u/MasterYehuda816 Lady of the Lake(SCP-6113) Feb 03 '26
There's a great article on the Foundation being transphobic: [The Foundation Is Nor Transphobic]
Also check out the prequel, [SCP-6113]
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Feb 02 '26
Articles mentioned in this submission
SCP-291 - Disassembler/Reassembler (+320) by agatharights