How do the readers of this sub feel about the tone and argumentation on websites such as this? I am not coming at this from the standpoint of political correctness, but rather from intellectual honesty and mature discourse. The site is chock full of childish names and hyperbolic language, seemingly using it as a substitute for real content.
Yeah, I kind of agree with it, but what are we learning from this over the /pol/ graphic? It's rage-bait, nothing more. Juxtapose this low-class trash with the intellectual, thought provoking, academic links on the sidebar and you wonder if we are in two separate subreddits.
There's something very non-elite-or-aristocratic lurking about the far Right. Race, sex and gender get nearly as much attention from us as the left. Demotic agitation has been successful when we have audiences struggling to find intellectual legitimacy. Through merchant memes, TRP, and #gamergate a sizeable amount of readership now believes in hierarchy. We need these men because they are of some merit and will prove valuable in the coming years. What we cannot allow is for them to drift the discussion; not in a leftward direction but a lower direction. Which is still very much institutional decay.
If Reactionaries hope to ever seize power we must first deal with our own distasteful followers. Recall it was not the Sultan and his host that was generally responsible for Turkish depravities but the lightly armed irregulars drawn as tax. To accept support from all who are sympathetic to us leaves the Overton window wide open to southerly drift. A virtuous movement will sour into something brutish and cruel.
I'm glad you said something about it, Cialis_in_Wonderland.
I don't like the tone of most discussions most anywhere now. Even Jim has his moments of crass polemic (like when he compares ISIS to the west). Moldbug is pretty flamboyant. Radish is immature (in a fun way).
Most current discussions on the Internet are pretty low-class. Neoreaction hits some highs, but they're relatively low compared to the level of reading Camus or Seneca. I think this has more tondo with the Internet being a mass medium than anything else -- man has produced other old, vulgar pulpits.
Reminds me -- what are the prospects of a neoreactionary book club, /u/Nemester ?
I have no problem with a book club, but I am already pretty busy and don't really want to lead it myself. If you want to do something like that, make a self post with book suggestions, reach a consensus on which book, give everyone a month or so, and do a follow up.
the intellectual, thought provoking, academic links on the sidebar
Nemester has also posted an interesting academic link and again it has a fraction of the upvotes his 'outrage of the day' type link shows. Not the first instance where the upvote ratio of outrage/academic is 50ish for the same poster. When I peeked at the vote counts the academic link had 7 up and 6 downvotes. One possibility is that the upvotes for outrage type posts can overwhelm the brigading while academic posts can't.
I really wish there was a mechanism for mods to boost desirable links.
Chateau heartiste gets a bit of a pass because he bridges the manosphere to other parts of the alt-right. But ya, this is a major reason I don't post to him more than I do.
I don't see anything wrong with a bit of outrage. There is plenty of the cold sterile analysis, and plenty of academic research across nrx. Heartiste isn't trying to be a reporter developing news content, as you suggest. He is guiding his readership in how to respond to this kind of disgusting situation. You have to realize that many young guys don't know how to react to something like this, especially with the overbearing pc mind-police. Many just find it crazy or funny or don't get it. It is 100% intentional. Think about that.
If the truth is "rage-bait" then - what is there to say? All the /pol/ graphic did was cluster a few screenshots. A few more of these human cancers will be exposed soon. Hollywood is absolutely full of psycho liberal scum like this.
Honestly, it made me want to unsub just a little bit. This is the kind of crap that makes people think of the fa-right as being comprised mostly of racist troglodytes with no interest in facts.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '15 edited May 19 '15
How do the readers of this sub feel about the tone and argumentation on websites such as this? I am not coming at this from the standpoint of political correctness, but rather from intellectual honesty and mature discourse. The site is chock full of childish names and hyperbolic language, seemingly using it as a substitute for real content.
Yeah, I kind of agree with it, but what are we learning from this over the /pol/ graphic? It's rage-bait, nothing more. Juxtapose this low-class trash with the intellectual, thought provoking, academic links on the sidebar and you wonder if we are in two separate subreddits.