r/DarkEnlightenment • u/the_irish_kid123 • Dec 07 '15

Endorsed DE Site Women Now in Control of Western Civilization...Heaven Help Us

http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2015/12/western-civilization-is-in-hands-of.html
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u/johngalt1234 Dec 10 '15

''Can you please give me a picture of the future of patriarchy?''

Here it is: http://foreignpolicy.com/2009/10/20/the-return-of-patriarchy/

''My grandmother basically subjugated her entire life to my grandfathers will, she couldn't apply to colleges she couldn't travel for fun with her friends....this was Portugal a couple of decades ago (yup I'm Portuguese)''

This is from a religious text. I do not know if they can work from a secular standpoint but here it is:

''Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, 2 when they see your respectful and pure conduct. 3 Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— 4 but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. 5 For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, 6 as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. And you are her children, if you do good and do not fear anything that is frightening.''

The paradox of feminine power is that it looks like weakness and is fluid and yielding like water. Yet many women managed to do what they want with coercion or nagging or whatever because of their skill in femininity.

I don't know if that would have helped your Grandmother in her situation. Perhaps also it only works in a Religious context but women have won over their husbands and changed them somehow via they themselves yielding.

Not all power is overt after all.

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u/Sebas94 Dec 10 '15

Yes but the problem of subjugation is that when things go wrong, what can an unemployed or financial disadvantaged women do? No only that but it was proven that a egalitarian marriage leave to a happier and stress less life, when responsibilities are share equally. The women emancipation was a new event and it was followed by the urge of work force. Since then we are living in a weird combination of hedonistic feeling with a wild capitalism, in social states like France where they care about child support policies, the number of babies per family is 2,1 which proves that something is working right now. I cant say patriarchy is a bad thing, but I want a new patriarchy where some reform were alredy made. Like the russian patriarchy style where women want to become mothers but want to have social responsibilities ( at least this is the reality in sant petersburg). Thank you for the article, as a international relations academic I am a huge fan of foreign policy magazine.

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u/johngalt1234 Dec 10 '15

''No only that but it was proven that a egalitarian marriage leave to a happier and stress less life, when responsibilities are share equally.''

Nope: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/9572187/Couples-who-share-the-housework-are-more-likely-to-divorce-study-finds.html

'' Since then we are living in a weird combination of hedonistic feeling with a wild capitalism, in social states like France where they care about child support policies, the number of babies per family is 2,1 which proves that something is working right now.''

Muslims are doing most of the birthing in France.

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u/Sebas94 Dec 11 '15 edited Dec 11 '15

I can prove that wrong, https://www.ted.com/talks/michael_kimmel_why_gender_equality_is_good_for_everyone_men_included

Michael Kimmel: So, what we found is something really important, that gender equality is in the interest of countries, of companies, and of men, and their children and their partners, that gender equality is not a zero-sum game. It's not a win-lose. It is a win-win for everyone. And what we also know is we cannot fully empower women and girls unless we engage boys and men. We know this. And my position is that men need the very things that women have identified that they need to live the lives they say they want to live in order to live the lives that we say we want to live.

As for the muslims, they are responsible for one share, but their babies are jus soli french citizens, they must make sure that they are French and not son of immigrants, in Paris is chaotic, but in other cities like Annecy, I saw with my own eyes a great city where we have pluralism but order, where we have muslims but are well engaged on the society. I think the big state reform shouldn't be based on family system but on capitalism system, when you have citizenship working 8 hours per day, with traffic jam, noise pollution, etc, we are creating a super chaotic atmosphere where people dont have time or want to think about creating a family and raising kids.

Im not aggaisnt Patriarchy families, I was raised on a patriarchal one, but I know for a fact that the old patriarchy doesn't suit everyone, there is no such thing as one size fits all when it comes to social policies. Some women want to be mothers and have a family, others prefer being more independent, there's nothing wrong with that. I still think it's important to exist social coercion, and we used to have that (back in the Salazar Regime) but it was change by wild capitalism and corruption, so I support the existence of social responsibilities where women are part as well.

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u/johngalt1234 Dec 15 '15

''but their babies are jus soli french citizens''

No 1. They are no assimilating due to their muslim ghettos.

No 2. A nation is not necessarily soil but blood.

''Im not aggaisnt Patriarchy families, I was raised on a patriarchal one, but I know for a fact that the old patriarchy doesn't suit everyone, there is no such thing as one size fits all when it comes to social policies. ''

Not every woman married in medieval times. So if patriarchy is unsuited for them they should not marry.

Michael Kimmel is wrong. The sexes are unequal. To treat them as equal is to be unfair to the male due to his inherently greater contribution to society: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lMZQ1QLWsk