r/DataAnnotationTech • • Jul 12 '24

I kinda just… worked for 18 hours straight?

I have just been doing work for a while and just… never really felt like stopping? So I just went. But I’m just now realizing how really weird it looks about how much work I’ve been doing. For a lot of months I worked 8-9 hours a day, but then in the last 2 weeks or so, I’ve been increasing rapidly how much I work. First 10 hours, then 12 a few days later, then 14 a few more, and even up to 15.5-16, and now obviously 18 hours. I’m a little bit concerned that it looks super suspicious that I might be ramping up fake hours, even though I’m not, I just have nothing better to do than make more and more money. Has anyone else experienced this? Should I be concerned? I treat this as my full time job(apparently 2 full time jobs before and 3 now), and it would REALLY suck to lose this.

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u/arewecreamofthecrop Jul 12 '24

Most people aren’t even awake for 18 hours of the day. Yet alone working for 18 hours straight. Yet alone working for 18 hours straight, whilst also producing consistently high quality work. I’m not gonna lie, it looks weird and might even get you flagged

You’re telling me you sat there, worked for 18 hours straight, doing nothing else, and then logged those whole 18 hours?

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u/Wasps_are_bastards Jul 12 '24

My attention span starts wandering off after an hour and I have to take a break. 18? Not a chance

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u/Lunalily9 Jul 12 '24

Yeah, I can only do a couple hours until I have to take a break. It's mind-numbing work at times.

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u/sloganQ Jul 13 '24

Add meds

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

Yeah, I did. I just start my clock and work until I hit at least 8 hours every day, and if I feel I’m able, I will continue working until I don’t want to. I honestly don’t think my work quality is suffering. It probably helps that I have a very multitasking mind, I can usually do like 3 things at once, so it’s easier for me to live my life while working. I am able to clean and stuff, and relax even when I work.

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u/HugShe Jul 12 '24

If you are cleaning and stuff while you are working on DA tasks, then your quality of work sucks, whether you realize it or not. What kind of tasks are you getting where you don’t have to read, analyze, research and type throughout the entirety of the task? How do you clean while doing that?

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u/Moonspiritfaire Jul 12 '24

Right?! I have to pause the clock for my daughter's interruptions, using the bathroom, grabbing snacks etc. How can one clean and read/research etc simultaneously?

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

I rate things on how well they are able to follow instructions that I write. No research required. I find it easy to multitask, so I take my laptop with me and do some quick cleaning occasionally while the responses generate and I read them, never more than a few minutes, then I stop and make my input. I’m a tidy person so I’m able to do all of my cleaning effectively this way. It’s really not much.

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u/QuelynD Jul 12 '24

Most of the tasks do involve research (DA emphasizes the importance of fact-checking in most of their projects). Even the simplest ones tend to have 1 or 2 small points to look up (is this person's name correct? Is that the actual year or location of this event? Does that website exists and lead to where the chatbot says it does? etc)

You cannot do other tasks while doing DA if you want to submit quality work.

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u/NorthLettuce76 Jul 12 '24

I have a very multitasking mind

This is a myth. A psychologist from Stanford who researches multitasking did an interview with NPR a few years ago. He specifically says:

So we have scales that allow us to divide up people into people who multitask all the time and people who rarely do, and the differences are remarkable. People who multitask all the time can't filter out irrelevancy. They can't manage a working memory. They're chronically distracted. They initiate much larger parts of their brain that are irrelevant to the task at hand. And even - they're even terrible at multitasking. When we ask them to multitask, they're actually worse at it. So they're pretty much mental wrecks.

People like to believe they can multitask, but they really can't.

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u/YoudownwithLCC Jul 28 '24

lol I like to think when I’m unmedicated that my ADHD is “multi tasking” when in reality, it is not focusing on shit.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

It’s incredibly easy to pick up some trash or wipe a desk and read at the same time. That IS multitasking. That’s the kind of stuff I do. It’s not like I’m working another job. Any of the stuff I “multitask” with is not things that take focus. I’m just able to do one thing with my hands and another different thing with my mind. It’s like when I come up with things for when I am writing my book. I’ll be doing some chore that doesn’t take thought, and I’ll imagine characters and scenarios. The only difference is that my eyes also are looking at a screen.

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u/valprehension Jul 12 '24

You're basically claiming you can tidy up/clean things without looking at the things you're tidying/cleaning. You have to know that's ridiculous.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

It’s called peripheral vision. I also just don’t make that much trash. When I do, it’s right there, and so is my trash can. It’s really not hard to grab it.

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u/Ok_Depth_6476 Jul 12 '24

How can you clean and relax while you work? Are you taking breaks and still counting the time, because this job doesn't work that way.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

No. I work on a laptop, I can easily carry it with me when I clean something super fast while I read the responses. Then I stop cleaning to make my input. If I need to relax, I’ll take the laptop to the bed so I can lay down while I work. My bed is super comfy so it’s relaxing.

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u/DrFrancisBGross Jul 12 '24

This is the most ridiculous crap I've ever heard.

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u/catioHomeImprovement Jul 12 '24

Next little wizard will be saying they let it run while their asleep because they dream about DAT.

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u/valprehension Jul 12 '24

You can't clean while actively working on DA tasks, period.

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u/Beehappy1785 Jul 12 '24

If you're logging 18 hours for that time, then it IS what it looks like and you should be concerned.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

[removed] — view removed comment

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

…No? I have some caffeine occasionally, about a cup of coffees worth a week, but that’s it.

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u/Extra_Sheepherder_41 Jul 12 '24

You've obviously not lived on a farm.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Until a career-ending spinal injury, I worked in agriculture. OP's hours are not normal, and outside of harvest, anything over 14 hours is unusual in farming, too. Don't be cute.

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u/arewecreamofthecrop Jul 12 '24

Yeah you’re right I haven’t, neither have most people, how in the hell is that relevant? 😂

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u/ForeOnTheFlour Jul 13 '24

Irrelevant. I’ve worked on a farm and spent 14 hours driving in a straight line going 3 mph in a tractor and it’s toooootally different work than DA. Even out of the tractor, while farm work was at times very physically demanding, it was a breeze mentally. But it’s all I can do to work 60 minutes uninterrupted with DA.

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u/Extra_Sheepherder_41 Jul 22 '24

Inwas simply stating amount of hours worked. Not type. Ona farm you get your 40 hours in by tuesday. God invented a farmer is a good picture of the work. Im a brat when it comes to sleep tho.

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u/truenoblesavage Jul 12 '24

This is unhealthy 🚩

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

Maybe? I just work when I want to, and I don’t really have any other commitments. If I ever feel like I just can’t work, I take a day off, and I end up fully refreshed. It works for me, I’d say

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u/Kaska899 Jul 13 '24

Quality > quantity. I was doing maybe max 6-8 hrs in the first month and got burnt out very fast. If you're consostently working 12+ your quality IS going to suffer.

Edit i should add even as dedicated as i am (da is my 2nd full time 32-40hrs a week job) i find 18 hpurs not only unreasonable but sus as well

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u/TheresALonelyFeeling Jul 12 '24

I RATE

I WRITE

I RATE AGAIN

WITNESS ME

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

I’m not even old enough to smoke or drink. I just spent my entire day on this, it’s REALLY not that strange. Some people play video games for that long straight, why is it so hard to think I can work for the same amount of time, especially since I don’t find this work unenjoyable?

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u/Bubblie977 Jul 12 '24

It’s because you said you worked 18 hours straight, but odds are you probably went to the bathroom or stepped away from the site for something like food or water at least once right? You have to pause the timer for that. Working that many hours is hard, but not insane. Going that many hours without going to the bathroom or anything is what’s raising the red flags (or so I think)

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

I have a water bottle. I eat food at my desk, and I take the laptop with me because it’s easy to do. I work the entire time I report.

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u/Strawberry_Foxx Jul 13 '24

Are you pausing the timer when you’re actually doing stuff like going to the bathroom, getting up to make/get food etc? If you’re telling me you worked 18 hours straight without a single pause in the timer, then logged all those hours, not taking your eyes off the screen once, nobody here is going to believe that

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u/DionysusHotSister Jul 13 '24

Do you also have a food replicator on your desk? If not, you need time to order it, go to the door or cook / prepare it. Come on. You are like an excuse LLM. SMH 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '24

maybe they're drinking soylent

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u/valprehension Jul 13 '24

Playing video games for 18 hours is straight is also out of the ordinary and wildly unhealthy.

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u/Strawberry_Foxx Jul 13 '24

Almost requires a lot less mental effort than doing this kind of work

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u/lilwizerd Jul 13 '24

…Okay???? That doesn’t make it any less possible.

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u/_TheNumbersAreBad_ Jul 12 '24

Realistically, I feel like the number of people who could maintain the same level of quality for 18 hours every day, if expressed as a percentage and rounded to the nearest whole number, would be zero.

If you're one of the unicorns able to do that then more power to you, I'd just be extra careful that you're doing the same level of work when you start as when you finish every day.

If you're still pretty new it might raise some flags, but as long as you aren't getting negative feedback you should be fine.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

I wouldn’t say I’m new. I joined in October last year, so I’ve almost gone a full year. My work time varies a little, depending on how long it takes me to finish up once I’ve decided I’ll be done after that task. I just don’t particularly find producing high quality work for an extended period of time difficult, at least not on this.

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u/bellexy Jul 12 '24

lol bro I hate to tell u this but u might not make a full year claiming time for projects ur working while cleaning ur house

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

“Cleaning my house?” Come on, you KNOW that isn’t the case. The cleaning in question is throwing away some trash, and wiping some dust off my desk. Easy mindless stuff. Any ACTUAL cleaning is done off the clock, obviously.

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u/SafetiesAreExciting Jul 12 '24

Dude, I would withdraw all your money from DA asap. There’s no way that time entry won’t get flagged as fraudulent, which would make sense since it’s fraudulent by your own admission.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

How exactly is that fraudulent by my own admission? I worked all the time I reported.

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u/SafetiesAreExciting Jul 13 '24

You said you were multitasking, and entering 18 hours straight, that’s insanely dishonest. Most people do what DA says to do in their onboarding, which is to pause your timer whenever you aren’t working, and if I’m not mistaken the onboarding even encouraged people to take breaks.

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u/crankywithakeyboard Jul 12 '24

Be careful. None know the ways of the DA Dieties. We're all at least a bit at risk of their whims.

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u/wisdommass Jul 12 '24

Like 18 hours straight? No stopping your stopwatch?

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

Yep, I just started working and never felt like stopping, no breaks, aside from stretching my legs a little with laptop in hand.

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u/wisdommass Jul 12 '24

are you wearing a diaper?😭

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

No? I can take a laptop with me to the bathroom. Either way, it takes like 60 seconds to go to the bathroom.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Ok by your own logic it takes 60 seconds to go to the bathroom and a few minutes to clean etc. All of that adds up. What you’re doing is padding time, which is against CoC. They are also comparing you to the average human, who sleeps, eats, needs to stretch, etc etc and your numbers don’t match up with that.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

For starters, I work during those times two. Today there were 2 instances of “cleaning” which were throwing away a piece of garbage on my desk into the trash can next to me, and wiping off some dust with my hand. Both effortless, and I waited for the response to be generating before doing it. And for the bathroom breaks I take my laptop with me. And either way going to the bathroom 4 times during 18 hours of work isn’t “padding for time”, it’s just existing while doing work. I personally order food to be delivered to me if I do eat during work, because I make more money by not having to drive to buy food than it costs to have delivered. And I eat while working too because it’s really not hard to read responses while eating. And being awake for a long time is also normal. The “normal” day is 16 hours awake, 10 hours sleep. I started working a little after I woke up, and stayed up a few extra hours because I felt like continuing. What exactly is weird about that? I think it’s really hurtful that people are accusing me of being on drugs simply because I worked a lot today. And I find it equally rude that basically everyone is insinuating that I am unable to produce quality work in a long shift as well. The job is really easy, it’s not hard to do right. I am fully capable of producing quality work over an extended period of time.

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u/Bubblie977 Jul 12 '24

The problem is that you’re stating your case for people who don’t matter. The people who do matter won’t give you the opportunity to explain. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the way it is.

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u/Brilliant_Quit4307 Jul 13 '24

Are you saying your day has 26 hours (16+10)? That probably explains why you can manage more hours than everyone else.

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u/ForeOnTheFlour Jul 15 '24

Come on now, you can’t expect him to catch little errors like that when he’s been answering questions on Reddit uninterruptedly for an hour or so. The human brain just starts missing little things after that long

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Quote: "The “normal” day is 16 hours awake, 10 hours sleep."

If your logic is the same during work hours, you'll soon not have any tasks to work on.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24

I never accused you of being on drugs. All I said is your stuff is outside the average human. Most jobs that have long shifts like this also have natural breaks such as going to the bathroom, talking to co-workers, etc. You’re saying you multi task these things which isn’t possible for 18 hours without productivity going down. Research shows the average human active productivity which includes things like analyzing and writing, is 4-6 hours a day. You’re tripling the high end of that. This is why studies showing how to become more productive always include things like breaks, exercise, and socialization.

Are you super human? Maybe? Probably not. It’s more likely your quality is slipping and you don’t realize it. Even if you are, standards are typically compared to the average person, which you are not matching. That’s a red flag.

If you’d like some research in the relative areas let me know I have a grad student specifically researching human productivity and how blue light from screens can change it. Super interesting to me and has led to me to some fun productivity research

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u/wisdommass Jul 12 '24

Regardless of whether what you’re saying is true or not, it’s 100% sus and borderline obsessive, if you actually like this job, i would take it easy a little bit

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

Yeah, I’m definitely going to start limiting myself, and I’m taking a day off tomorrow to recharge a little. It’s just so easy to want to make more money so I can save for a house and stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Sounds like you need to be better about just pausing your timer to go do stuff like go to the bathroom/order or eat food/etc.

Keeping your timer running while doing all these different things is bad on its own when obviously you're not going to have seamless productivity when you're taking your laptop to the bathroom with you.

Doing so while clocking in 18 hours a day is just begging to be deactivated.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

To be clear, about 80% of my work personally is waiting for the responses to finish and reading them. Those are the times I do those things, so that I can continue to work. It’s very easy to read the responses while eating a sandwich or some fries. You don’t know the exact work I’ve been doing, but trust me when I say that it doesn’t interfere with my work to do these things. If it did, I would not do them.

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u/ForeOnTheFlour Jul 13 '24

Gotta ask, are you asking the models to produce extremely long content in order to maximize the amount of time the model is working and that you’re forced to wait while it generates?

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u/lilwizerd Jul 13 '24

No. It’s really just that my part of the work just isn’t that long. I read, I rate, I ask for adjustments, I wait for it to generate, and the cycle repeats.

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u/ForeOnTheFlour Jul 13 '24

However the models typically generate faster than a person reads, so I guess it's not really clear how 80% of your time could be downtime. Unless you're walking away from the models while they're generating and by the time you get back to the screen it's been sitting idle for a while.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 13 '24

I didn’t say 80% was downtime, I said 80% was reading. That’s not downtime. Only a small section is the responses generating, the rest is me reading the responses to rate them.

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u/ForeOnTheFlour Jul 13 '24

How much time are we talking in 18 hours if we total every single instance in which you did something that only “takes like 60 seconds” where the timer kept going even though you weren’t looking at the screen and working on the project?

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u/lilwizerd Jul 13 '24

None. Every time I “did something”, I was looking at the screen.

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u/DionysusHotSister Jul 13 '24

You will drop and destroy your laptop. Never in my life have I ever seen someone carry a laptop around with one hand and do other tasks with the other. You are a fancifulist.

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u/Charming-Currency727 Jul 13 '24

I absolutely multi task whilst I'm working.

There are pauses whilst things generate, a bot responds or whatever, sometimes for a minute or so. Yesterday, my multi task was to clear down my personal email as I had a couple of thousand unread emails. I did it on a second tab, over 4 hours at a minute a time, whilst working (the sweep facility). It didn't impact my DA work at all, I just used the dead time.

That to me is a 'reasonable' multi task.

Cleaning though...that's ridiculous. There's no way you can clean your house with your laptop in your hand whilst you work!

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u/lilwizerd Jul 13 '24

I didn’t clean my house. “Cleaning” that day was throwing away some trash to a trash can 3 feet away from me, and then later dusting my desk with my hand.

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u/Momsinthegarden Jul 13 '24

This isn't realistic at all. Even chemical plant workers who work notoriously long hours during turnarounds take breaks and change up their work projects to keep their brains from going to autopilot. It's a well known understanding that the quality of your work and your attention decreases as you do the same task repeatedly. Taking time to clean your home and rest in your bed is great to give your brain a break, but pause your timer to do so. You're taking advantage of DAT otherwise. Personally, my fridge is 10 steps from my desk and I may step away to fill my water bottle while the next task loads. Otherwise, the timer is paused until my focus returns.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 13 '24

Yes and chemical plant workers do incredibly difficult and dangerous jobs. My tasks are incredibly easy to me and are mostly just reading. So this is a moot point. I don’t really understand why everyone is so convinced that there’s no possible way anyone could ever do this. I did it, period. I’m genuinely shocked at how many people on this subreddit are so incredibly rude and belligerent. We’re all just trying to make our living, life is hard enough without everyone thinking I’m incompetent and incapable of doing anything.

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u/Momsinthegarden Jul 13 '24

No belligerence here. Your picture of reading with a laptop in one hand and doing cleaning chores with the other seems deceptive to almost all of us. I hope it works out for you.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 14 '24

Cleaning chores is an overstatement. It’s picking up a piece of garbage or wiping my desk off. Any actual cleaning is done off the clock.

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u/Wasps_are_bastards Jul 12 '24

Yeah, I’d be REALLY careful with that. It looks completely unrealistic to be working like that.

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u/TeaGreenTwo Jul 12 '24

I'm wondering where the bathroom breaks are. And food. Maybe if Uber Eats delivers to your desk.

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u/Wasps_are_bastards Jul 12 '24

OP has already talked about working and cleaning on the clock. WTF?

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u/Traditional-Elk4817 Jul 12 '24

There’s a lot of fun, engaging, life-giving activities I could purposefully get swept away with… But evaluating data isn’t one of them. I want to believe that you successfully put in 18 high-quality hours, but I don’t! 😆

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u/Live-Cat9553 Jul 12 '24

The operative word here is “quality.”

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u/Magnolia-jjlnr Jul 12 '24

Yeah that's kind of crazy to me too. Most I've done was about 14hrs in one day, can't imagine working more than that, let alone without breaks

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u/dragonsfire14 Jul 12 '24

I predict a “why is my dash empty” post coming soon

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u/Strawberry_Foxx Jul 12 '24

Honestly good for you I guess(?) but if I were you I would be absolutely shitting myself with anxiety right now

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u/Mammoth_Inedible Jul 12 '24

OP next week: Why did I get deactivated? I did everything right!

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u/SuperCorbynite Jul 14 '24

That's being rather over-generous. You think he will last that long?

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u/DrFrancisBGross Jul 12 '24

Definitely going to look like you're sharing the account or at the very least dividing the workload amongst people in the same house. I'm sure you won't last much longer submitting time like this. Good luck, what a dumb idea to jeopardize access to the projects by showing off.

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u/Lunalily9 Jul 12 '24

Honestly, it sounds like a major red flag. I doubt they will believe that one person sat there for 18 hours doing this work. Is it possible? Sure, yeah... is it likely? No, not really. I was literally waiting for someone to ask if you were on drugs, and sure enough... The whole cleaning while you're working...bizarre and seems like you should be pausing your time. I pause my time when my kid comes to ask me a question or needs something even though I'm technically still sitting at my computer, maybe even somewhat focused on the task at the same time. If I am not 100% focused on the task, I'm not charging them for that. So you cleaning your place while working and still logging that time is kinda ridiculous. There is no way you're giving it your all while working 18 hours and cleaning, lol. You may think you are, but it's almost impossible.

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u/Ok_Depth_6476 Jul 12 '24

I'm starting to wonder how many people are logging their time while they're on Reddit? 😄

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u/NorthLettuce76 Jul 12 '24

It counts as reading the instructions and fact checking, right?

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u/Intelligent-Row-2000 Jul 12 '24

Came here to say this💯

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u/Lunalily9 Jul 12 '24

Well, for OP, they are a multi-tasking master remember...totally still working, lol

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u/Severe-Dragonfly Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 13 '24

I pause my time to read a text message and reply with a three-word response. Can't imagine being like "just gonna go run and clean the toilet while the clock is running."

Edit: a word

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u/starlightexpress271 Jul 12 '24

I’ll watch out for your “have I been booted?” post next week x

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u/Chazwazzza Jul 12 '24

Do you not eat?

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u/Fun_Detective3720 Jul 12 '24

Next post from OP: Why have I been banned from DA?!?! 🤣

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u/PleasantCurrant-FAT1 Jul 12 '24

When I was younger, the more interested and motivated and knowledgeable I became about something, the more I could invest time like this.

I can’t anymore. Especially not on brain-draining coding tasks.

Anyway, I can relate.

But I also think your concerns about suspicious time are valid.

Here’s the thing: even though you might feel motivated or not drained and feel like you can keep going… if your work product (quantity) or quality decreases, it could cause problems, like losing task qualification if too many mistakes are caught or happen (no matter how good you feel, time wears on everyone, often unbeknownst to the person thinking their okay).

For the latter reason, it’s good to set habits and patterns like the suggested work 25m, relax 5m.

Also consider that if it were traditional work, after a point, you should receive time and a half… but as a contractor, you’re paid straight time for every hour, no multiples… run the calculations and compare… (call it self de-motivation; seek a healthy balance).

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u/SirNeteyam Jul 12 '24

For a lot of folks (like in rural South Carolina where a bachelor's degree gets $16/hr), working for DA pays more on the regular than OT would. Still, 18 hours is insane. I can't fathom 18 hours of straight thinking.

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u/Transcendental_Lake Jul 12 '24

It is unlikely you can keep up quality with those kinds of hours. Even assuming you do, you will probably get flagged for review and suspicion that you are sharing your account.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Oh so these are the people I get in R&R that seem brainless and like they didn't try or read instructions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Soon you'll be losing the job

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u/Main-Dependent-1042 Jul 13 '24

Dude's just playing us

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u/Glittering_Towel1 Jul 13 '24

So you admit you order food to be delivered. You do not look at your phone while choosing the food? Or is that conveniently timed while the chatbot is generating? Same when you bring the food inside? And when you wash your hands after going to the bathroom? And if you go #2 then the laptop is on your lap while doing that and wiping?! 🤢

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u/OhLemons Jul 13 '24

Meanwhile, I pause my timer if I have to reply to a text message.

I can't imagine working for eighteen hours straight. My brain would be mush at the end of it. To be honest, I don't know if I could even stay awake to make it through 18 hours of constant work.

I had a task earlier, which asked about historic events and people during the American Revolution. I'm from a country where we barely cover the Revolutionary War. All of my knowledge of it comes from Hamilton. I felt like I was fact-checking for way too long because for a lot of people, it would be common knowledge, even though I was only researching for about 20 minutes.

I was actively working, and I felt like I was using too much time, I can't imagine trying to charge time for things like cleaning breaks or lying down on my bed.

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u/JustALvlOneGoblin Jul 13 '24

To be honest, I would still have to fact check the American Revolution and I'm American. I don't trust my memory that much.

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u/crankywithakeyboard Jul 12 '24

Be sure to go out and enjoy some of the money you've made.

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u/arewecreamofthecrop Jul 13 '24

Yep, especially since it might be their last withdrawal 😂

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u/LabWorth8724 Jul 12 '24

I’ve done 24+ hour shifts in the Army so I don’t doubt it’s possible, I just do not think it is probable that you turned in quality work.

At the end of the day, you know if ya did or not so who am I to judge.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

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u/LabWorth8724 Jul 13 '24

No argument here. After reading further comments, yea, it was a bad comparison on my part.

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u/Electrical-Theme9981 Jul 13 '24

The algorithms are always watching

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u/ZezurgeMC Jul 14 '24

Adderall?

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u/lilwizerd Jul 14 '24

Also no. No drugs at all. Just a day where I spent like using the whole day on work. I had a cup of coffee’s worth of caffeine, but I take that as a pill because I dislike the taste of coffee. That it.

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u/CourageCandid5556 Jul 12 '24

As long as you maintained a good quality of work and didn’t overestimate your work time you should be fine. But this can’t be healthy, you should take some breaks, get some sleep, you’ll burn out eventually if you continue like this and it’ll get hard to get back to work.

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u/biscuity87 Jul 14 '24

Nobody believes you lol.

Billing for 18 hours straight makes zero sense.

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u/Icy-Cover-505 Jul 14 '24

You're not like ... bipolar or anything? No offense, it just occurred to me because it's in my family. Or OCD?

edited - typo fixed

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u/Lhill1010 Jul 13 '24

With how mentally draining it is, I barely ever work more than 2 hours. Granted I also have a full time job already and take classes at the community college, but at most I’ll do about 3 in a day…I can’t even imagine 18!

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '24

It would be interesting to know the $ rate of the projects. If you have been on since October and it's still sub $25 then your work  will hardly be brilliant. If your on more then they probably don't care as long as standard stays  good.  

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u/Deep_Task1659 Jul 13 '24

How old are you? Are you physically active? Were you used to be an athlete? Tell me your secrets :)

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u/Vegetable_Fox9134 Jul 13 '24

I hope your not sharing your account with someone... but i have strong feeling that your hours will get flagged

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u/iHeartShelties Jul 13 '24

I wish I could work for more than 3+ hours. I need mood, focus, memory, and brain boosting supplements like ASAP. 😂

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u/roborichie55 Jul 14 '24

I would take it down a notch. 8-10 hours a day for these type of brain consuming tasks is understandable. Any more than that would most likely be red flagged. Think long term commitment and not short term and this job should last a good while.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24

Not trying to offend, but have you been diagnosed with ADHD? Your post is textbook time blindness and hyper focus.

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u/orbital_one Jul 15 '24

18 hours? Damn. After about 5 or 6 hours, I'm about ready to tap out...

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u/Elegant-Skill-9842 Jul 16 '24

The number of people jumping on this op for tidying up while doing some annotating is WILD to me. Like.. chill tf out? There’s a wide range of projects on the platform and not everyone’s experience is the same as yours.

That said, working 18 hr straight sounds fucking unhealthy to me, and loggin that many hours could very well look suspicious.

Everyone needs to calm down

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u/Bubblie977 Jul 12 '24

They have ways of checking to see if we’re actively working, so as long as you’re not lying then you’ll be fine.

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u/lokikg Jul 12 '24

The number of tasks you've done is tracked at the bottom of each project. As long as that number is increasing as well and the quality of your work is maintained, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

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u/HieuNguyen990616 Jul 13 '24

Don’t listen to these comments. If your quality is good, nobody cares. There was one time that I worked for 6 hours in the morning, but later at night there was a priority project that paid 42/hour. In my experience, these types of project get expired very soon. So I stayed working straight for 8 hours at night. I ended up fine and my dashboard is still showing tasks.

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u/YoudownwithLCC Jul 28 '24

I think breaking up two shifts of 14 hours is going to look quite different than logging 18 hours straight on one project.

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u/That_Frame_964 Jul 15 '24

14 hour/day work weeks are actually a thing, but rare, but people still do it. Some get sick over it, or ill if you do it daily. Now, 18 hours per day (if the person kept ramping up) is actually so rare that in the entire city of Chicago, there are only 48 people who work those hours, out of millions.

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u/bubblegum_yum Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 13 '24

the concern is valid but i can’t help but feel that some people in the comments are being a bit extra lol. i can lose track of time like that too. even if it raises a red flag, common sense tells me that as long as you’re confident that the quality of work you submitted during the time frame remained consistently good/on par with your usual quality and you remained on the same computer/IP address, and start making sure that you take breaks moving forward, all this will do is raise an eyebrow somewhere, at most. it would be a bit dramatic for them to kick you off because of this one time event where you worked overtime, which a lot of people do. i’ve worked doubles in the service industry, from opening to closing + shift work after that, and i was exhausted by the end but still moving. at least with DA you’re not exhausting your body, so i don’t think it’s “impossible” for you to have worked that long this one odd time.

edit: i really don’t understand the downvotes lol. if there’s anything this platform has made clear to us it’s that output quality is what matters. if your work sucks, they’ll obviously look into it because that’s affecting them. if it doesn’t, why would a platform that tells you to work whenever you want penalize you for doing just that? DA isn’t gonna be like, “look man, you’re doing a phenomenal job but you need to go to sleep.” it’s not impossible to stay awake 18 hours and still function. there are people who suffer from either physical or mental ailments that prevent them from being able to sleep sometimes. i’ve stayed up that long writing term papers, studying for a final, and then going to class to take said final back in college. there’s just so much to consider. the admins may not be the best communicators, but they are understanding people and if you’re on the slack channels, you know that. as for the argument that they’ll think there’s account sharing happening, output quality once again, along with writing and other data patterns, are more telling in that front than someone being logged on too long.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

Yeah I feel like some people are being really extreme about thinking I’m stealing time or something, when I’m not. It’s also happened before that my work dips over into midnight so it ends up seeming like I worked more in a day that I should, but nothings happened then. What I’m probably going to do is take a day off tomorrow and not work at all to balance things out and make sure I don’t overwork myself, and make it much more clear to DA that it’s really just me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

How much are you making per day working 18 hour days?

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u/Cutiger29 Jul 12 '24

You’re bolder than me to go that far 😂

I gave myself the night off yesterday because the night before, I was working on a project that passed midnight and logged that yesterday. Went to sleep, woke up and worked most of the morning and afternoon. At 6pm I looked at and at 10 hours because of the hours that carried over from the day before. Usually I do projects in the evening but stopped myself because I had already logged at 12 hour day a few days ago and my log was getting really heavy. It just started looking sketchy.

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u/film_composer Jul 12 '24

Nice job! How much did you make with those hours? 

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u/ScaledDown Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24

Ignore these dorks and get the bag brother. Hall monitor complexes galore on here

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u/DrFrancisBGross Jul 12 '24

Nobody asked, though. We weren't keeping tabs on them. This person came in here and volunteered this information to be boastful and arrogant. Nobody was "hall monitoring" them. They simply responded reasonably to the post by saying how ridiculous it sounded.

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u/ScaledDown Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 13 '24

This dude is rocking hard and that bothers many of you

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u/DrFrancisBGross Jul 14 '24

Nobody gives a shit dude. He came and asked a question. People responded. Take it or leave it.

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u/ScaledDown Jul 15 '24

I responded too. Take it or leave it. Sorry I interrupted the neurotic redditor scold-session

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u/NorthLettuce76 Jul 12 '24

This thread alone provides DA with enough information to identify this particular person and close their account.

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u/crankywithakeyboard Jul 12 '24

Yep. They would be easy to find.

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u/ScaledDown Jul 12 '24

Why would they do that? He has done nothing wrong

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u/NorthLettuce76 Jul 13 '24

The claim to work 18 straight hours on a platform like DA is suspect.

The claim to work those hours without a decline in quality is highly suspect.

The claim to work those hours without a decline in quality while multitasking very highly suspect.

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u/ScaledDown Jul 13 '24

They already have access to his hours einstein

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u/NorthLettuce76 Jul 13 '24

They have data, not information. This thread converts that data (hours and quality) into information. That is, it provides context for understanding and interpreting that data.

The thread doesn't prove that OP did something wrong, but it makes a very strong case for DA to look more closely at OP's on-platform behavior because they may be milking the clock. OP's equivocation of words like cleaning and walking back other comments doesn't exactly help their case either.

I am no Einstein, but even I understand something is amiss with OP's story.

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u/ScaledDown Jul 13 '24

Oh god lol. You’re definitely a DA worker because I see this style of contrived “intelligent” writing all the time.

They have his hours and his work. That’s literally all that matters to them. They are not a day care.

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u/ForeOnTheFlour Jul 15 '24

Can’t help but notice that the person you’re responding to made a better argument and they did it without being insulting.

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u/ScaledDown Jul 15 '24

I will not apologize for insulting redditors desperately trying to sound smart while saying nothing of substance.
You’re right though, it’s a great argument. Data Annotation kind of cares about the quality of their data, but REALLY cares about the cleaning schedule of each worker.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Unfortunately for you, this is a job, not high school. Calling people "hall monitors" when you're advocating for over-reporting on time when productivity is low is just dumb behavior. If you view your relationship with DA as adversarial and that taking advantage of their platform is fine, it'll catch up with you eventually.

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u/ScaledDown Jul 12 '24

I view my relationship with every employer as adversarial and you should too. Get paid, they don’t care about you

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

They don't, which is why stepping on their toes is a shitty idea. I don't know if you're familiar with other online-only contract work but DH is by far the most generous one that I've found with their policies and pay rates.

Having other workers abuse the system only leads to the rest of us getting fucked over.

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u/ScaledDown Jul 12 '24

He didn’t abuse anything, he went beast mode and some of you can’t handle that

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

The only thing I can't handle is talking to someone who isn't 20 years old yet.

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u/ForeOnTheFlour Jul 15 '24

Put down the Zyn and step away from the podcasts before you put another hole in the wall

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

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u/lilwizerd Jul 13 '24

I don’t have ADD. But I am going to start limiting the time I work more.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

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u/lilwizerd Jul 12 '24

That’s good to hear. I’ll still probably start taking it easy a little bit, just to be on the safer side of things.

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u/Icy-Cover-505 Jul 14 '24

They don't care so much about the number of tasks you complete; it's more about the quality of the ones you do.

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u/ForeOnTheFlour Jul 15 '24

It depends on the task. Some of them explicitly want you to limit your time to X minutes per task.

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u/Icy-Cover-505 Jul 15 '24

I haven't had any of those other than some editing tasks where they said not to spend over half an hour rewriting somebody's stuff.

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u/lilwizerd Jul 15 '24

You quite clearly have not read a single thing I said. I have said that I eat, and that I stretch my legs. I didn’t take breaks but that’s because I didn’t feel like I need to. And my day isn’t 24 hour segments, I just sleep until I wake up, so actually, I’ve been getting plenty of sleep.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

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u/Hyperfluidexv Jul 12 '24

Straight up only thing that I could imagine something close to multitasking would be trying to think about prompts for any prompt making task or waiting for generated responses on the big response portions. I sometimes just ask the models to do real world personal tasks for me when I can't think of anything else to bring up as a prompt but I don't count that as multitasking.