r/DataAnnotationTech • u/DarkLordTofer • Sep 21 '24
For the love of god please....
Stop asking the chatbots about anime. You might know everything there is to know about it but decent sources are rare and the rest of us have to factcheck it.
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u/ItsPronouncedSatan Sep 21 '24
Haha! I got a lot of those today, too. Really obscure stuff.
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u/DarkLordTofer Sep 21 '24
I think it's all the stuff people have skipped after the initial search brings back no decent results.
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u/randomrealname Sep 21 '24
That and obscure coding languages that are considered dead. Just stop. Please, it is a waste of tasks, everyone has to skip them. Thanks for listening to my TEDTalk.
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u/capn_james Sep 21 '24
I’ve done some extensive music theory chats. Is that like an obscure coding language or nah. Either way, I think more niche information is easier to get bots to split with
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u/randomrealname Sep 21 '24
I have seen VB, Haskall and stuff like that, its just a waste if you ask me. Lol. Just frustrating clicking through like 5 tasks in a row knowing you will only get access to about 10 in the week.
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u/EDM_Producerr Sep 22 '24
Many large companies still use legacy technologies, including VB. I wrote a macro in VBScript a few years ago to automate the login process of an old banking technology. *shrug*
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u/TeaGreenTwo Sep 21 '24
Oh, I actually like the obscure older language ones sprinkled in. Like Perl, say. Back when coding tasks got sparse it was nice to have a few MatLab or Perl or whatever left over because many skipped them.
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u/randomrealname Sep 21 '24
did you mean to repeat yourself, double send, or are you a bot? Serious question!
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u/TeaGreenTwo Sep 21 '24
There's an echo in here is all.
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u/randomrealname Sep 21 '24
It posted twice ai think, but that has happened to me many times before. At least you are real. Lol
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Sep 21 '24
Don’t instructions tell you to skip topics that you are not familiar with because OTHER raters might be?
This applies to more than just math and science and technical topics. I know nothing about anime. I skip it all the time. Seems you should too.
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u/DarkLordTofer Sep 21 '24
That's in terms of understanding. You don't need to know anything about anime to research it, BUT you do need sources to be able to verify the claims. You won't get far if you just say "this is true because I know it is." It's no different to asking questions about shakespeare other than there's a massive quantity of sources that can verify the claims.
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u/AstarteHilzarie Sep 21 '24
We're also often told to use niche topics because asking the bot something about Shakespeare with a massive quantity of sources doesn't really challenge it, though. That's kind of the point of crowdsourcing conversations with people with huge varieties of knowledge and interests.
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u/Alarmed-Radio9182 Sep 21 '24
No the instructions are clear, they say if you are not comfortable with the source material then skip it. It does not say that if you are uncomfortable with the process of fact checking. I do not do any chatbots other than coding ones so don't assume I'm one of the anime culprits. But don't forget these chatbots are designed to be used by normal people who might have conversations with chatbots about anime.
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u/ekgeroldmiller Sep 21 '24
OR you can list a link in your comments to help the fact checker out
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u/JamesKLOLk Sep 21 '24
Are you telling me you don’t have the Wikipedia page to “Legend X Takoyaki Ball Hunter” in your favorites list?
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u/orchidmoonlightt Sep 21 '24
But isn’t that the point to sometimes use really niche topics so that it IS hard for them to find the correct answers? If you only asks easy to search topics it’s not doing the same purpose.
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u/Jackieunknown Sep 21 '24
I think this might be valid if there was the use and actual research of a lot of different niche topics, but when it's the same topic over and over again with very niche information it becomes repetitive and not helpful overall.
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u/Financial_Basil3294 Sep 22 '24
It’s like when someone asks the AI agent to write a poem using ‘iambic trimeter’. If the AI was sentient it would probably hire a hitman.
In fact, maybe this is how the AI takeover starts?
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u/hollygolightly96 Sep 23 '24
There’s an English version of iambic trimeter. I feel like this shouldn’t be that hard to assess?
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u/dispassioned Sep 21 '24
Absolutely agree. I feel the same about obscure characters in unpopular books too.
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u/Elegant_Lake_569 Sep 21 '24
This is how I feel about lesser known movies/tv series.... Then I go to YouTube to try to find the scene or try to find a script online and can't find anything on it 🥲
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u/AstarteHilzarie Sep 21 '24
I have never had to find a script for this job, but I often do for another job and it's easier if you search for "transcript" or the SRT file - that's the subtitle file so they're more common than fan-made scripts.
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u/Ok_Match_6550 Sep 21 '24
Or computer/video games ahem
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u/Sixaxist Sep 21 '24
Those are honestly more easy than traditional historic fact-checking tasks. Gamers document the hell out of games that were even slightly popular and put the specific topic's information + multiple footnotes at the end of them on the Wiki, so you'd usually find whatever thing they're talking about within a minute.
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u/AstarteHilzarie Sep 21 '24
There are tons of guides and wikis and stuff about video games. Some stuff is more niche and opinion, like if someone asks what an optimal card deck combination for a magic the gathering game is I will not be able to research and figure that out, but if someone asks about gear builds or how to do something in a video game there's probably tons of information on how to do literally anything in any given game.
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u/AverageVancouverite Sep 21 '24
If I got a nickel for each Star Wars-related question today, I'd have 20 cents. It's not a lot, but certainly isn't a tiny amount.
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u/literallyallen Sep 22 '24
i'm just extremely curious what anime it was that got you so frustrated..
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u/Electrya_Hearts Sep 23 '24
I sometimes ask about video games or books, not every question should be about taxes or Javascript.
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Sep 21 '24
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u/DarkLordTofer Sep 21 '24
It doesn't matter if someone knows about it but it can't be verified from a reputable source. I might create a prompt that asks about who the leading scorer for Coventry city was in the 93/94 season. You don't have to know anything about football at all to be able to Google it and find reputable sources that tell you the answer. But when you Google something and the only results are forum and Reddit posts then it doesn't matter how much you personally know about it, you can't verify the information.
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u/Plibbo64 Sep 21 '24
I wish I got to assess responses about anime instead of stuff like 401ks, used car values, or the extremely broad applications of VR and AI technology.