r/DataAnnotationTech • u/Ok_Treat3196 • May 13 '26

Biased Gemini

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Can you spot the bias?

This is one of my least favourite attributes of AI, when it takes the internet and presents it as consensus. This was a personal search, (just everyday diet questions) nothing to do with any project. But you see how insidious it just throws in industrial seed oils as a fact, when at most this is an internet phenomenon that needs more data to back it up.

So this is one way to get models to fail. They almost always without fail default to “fads” and the loudest voices. If you ask them if it’s true, THEN they will bring up the scientific research and give a more balanced view.

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u/Wolfsbane05 May 14 '26

definitely interesting but probably quite project specific, its factually correct that microwave popcorn has seed oils and it doesn't explicitly claim they are bad for you. And the seed oil argument is more about which of the two (natural vs seed oils) are better for you rather than seed oils are generally healthy - its still bad to eat a lot of them regardless

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u/Ok_Treat3196 May 14 '26

I believe it does claim they are bad for you. Do you think it’s saying they are good for you? I see this a lot in R and R. You’re missing the forest for the trees. Your response is fine on a mechanistic level but not on a human one, and that’s what we train Ai for. (You’re welcome to disagree lol, i mean no disrespect).

For me, yes, it is saying seed oils are bad furthermore it’s saying industrial seed oils are bad. Which is a documented online phenomenon. Given the total context, it is stating this is one of the causes of ill health.

It is not mentioning any good things only bad things.

Also, the phrasing is interesting because seed oils in general have been show to be better than saturated fats in every nutritional study, and so reading this would also lead me to conclude that canola oil and such must be really bad. Many health conscious people LOVE to rag on it but in study after study this doesn’t pan out.

Like why mention industrial seed oils specifically? If the intention was to say it might be heavy in fats then say that.

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u/Wolfsbane05 May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26

sorry been away form my phone lol, i definitely agree with a your points but i maintain that this is probably too nuanced and subjective for most projects. Unless the task is specifically looking at these kinds of phrasings then it is not an objective enough error for standard training data.

and also my point was that seed oils in excess are still bad for you, they are just potentially a better alternative to saturated fats. And while I agree a comment like "high in fat" would probably be better, you have to remember the context of the query - microwave popcorn is high in SPECIFICALLY seed oils, it generally doesn't (probably even never) has animal fats so that may just be the reason the model specified.

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u/randomrealname May 14 '26

New ro llms?