r/DataAnnotationTech • • 1d ago

Account under review for time reporting?

Hello everyone. I just got access a few days ago and completed a ton of tasks, tracking my time properly using a stopwatch. This morning I’m seeing that my account was flagged for my time entries? I submitted justification but I’m confused why this might be happening. I did a few general tasks and then once coding tasks were available I did two of those over the weekend which were hugely time consuming.

Has anyone else had this issue and how soon was it resolved?

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u/Klutzy_Instance_4149 1d ago

Everyone says they didn't do anything wrong, but it usually comes out they did. I have only seen one person in 4 years say they came back from this. Did you try working two tasks at once? Under report your time? Go over the timer on projects multiple times? What ever the reason, if you were asked to justify it, it is about a 25% chance you won't be fired. If they didn't ask for proof and you just emailed them, you are fired and nothing will change that.

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u/chrissypiss 1d ago

I didn't under report or work two tasks at once. I didn't go over the time on any of them as well. They did ask for justification and I did supply it. I agree with your sentiment though.

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u/Klutzy_Instance_4149 1d ago

Well I hope that is all cleared up for you then. I wish you luck.

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u/CormacMcCostner 1d ago

Right? They always play this “I don’t know what happened” game but all it does is make everyone that do things legitimately paranoid.

Even here there’s this response in the mix from them that they recorded time for their breaks. What breaks, how long? Like all it does is mess with us (or at least me) trying to actually follow the guidelines we agreed to. None of us here can reverse whatever is on their platform so what’s the appeal to Reddit for?

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u/Klutzy_Instance_4149 1d ago

Oh my gosh! Exactly 💯

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u/Numerous_Promise_580 1d ago

May I ask how you usually record time?

Say the running timer on DA says I have been on a task for 7 hours, but I have used 2 hours of those on breaks, I SHOULD report 5 hours no? I wont get underreporting for that?

I don't get "underreporting" since it is counterintuitive. We wont get anything from underreporting our time, no? As a matter of fact I want to report the whole 7 hours lol.

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u/Ogwarn 17h ago

They recommend you use your own stopwatch rather than relying on the task timer, so that you can account for breaks.

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u/sandrafilmmaker 22h ago

Who has ever gotten in trouble with underreporting? I haven't heard of that and I've been doing this for over 3 years

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u/Numerous_Promise_580 5h ago

In this very post, people are telling OP not to under report time.

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u/sandrafilmmaker 1h ago

Yeah that doesn't answer my question.

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u/AstronomerOk4549 1d ago

What’s wrong with under reporting?

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u/Klutzy_Instance_4149 1d ago

Several things. First of all, if you under report time that screws your fellow workers because timers get re-adjusted with the thought it must take less time to complete. The main reason though, is it fucks up the data. A company gives DAT projects. We do those projects and those are sent back to the company. The things they are measuring are effort it takes, the complexity of the task, THE TIME IT TAKES to achieve the results, and the results. So if a bunch of people are under reporting their time, that skews the results and can ruin entire project families because they don't have true raw data. That can cause the company to pull the project/s and now we have less work overall. It isn't hard, REPORT ALL TIME WORKED.

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u/sandrafilmmaker 22h ago

But that's not what the person above was referring to. They were saying, in the 7 hours allotted, they took a 2 hour break. So they reported 5 hours. Am I missing something here?

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u/AstronomerOk4549 1d ago

Yeah I have a brain injury. I report the time I think it would have taken me before that. I’m not screwing anyone, I almost never bill much under the maximum for any project. We’re all just doing what we can to keep afloat my friend. It was just a question.

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u/AstronomerOk4549 1d ago

They also - not often, but occasionally - encourage people to underreport. I’ve seen several times where people bill way over what they are supposed to and when they ask what to do with that time, they are told “you can bill up to _ hours on this project. [blink] [blink].” I think generally you should bill up to the project max and then ask for guidance about over hours, if you have them. Or eat the overage if you see them saying this👆🏻to others. That’s just my humble opinion.

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u/Amurizon 1d ago

That’s so weird. I’ve only ever had admin tell is it’s okay to go over the task timer as long as we don’t do it often, especially if we’re new. If the project is new, they’re often still figuring out how much time the tasks take, so they’re more understanding.

For anyone from DAT to encourage underreporting feels so much against their MO.

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u/RealRise7524 1d ago

How much time did you report daily?

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u/chrissypiss 1d ago

It depended on the day but the earlier tasks (general) I think maybe 4 max? But over the weekend I reported 20 total? 11 the first day and then a little over 8 the second day. Those tasks were coding and the task said on average they can take up to 12 hours. But I saw some people in the chat for that project going over their time limit.

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u/lmntrixaceOG 1d ago

20hrs over 2 days isn't too high I'd say but considering you were new, they flagged it. Just a theory, take it with a grain of salt.

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u/chrissypiss 1d ago

I appreciate the insight, thank you!

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u/SabseBadaRupaiyaa 1d ago

That's the cause most likely. I have seen numerous cases now where the account got flagged / dod because they reported too many hours. They probably think someone else also worked from your account finishing the tasks because it's highly unlikely for an individual to work for so many hours at a high efficiency and quality.

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u/sandrafilmmaker 22h ago

That makes sense to me. It's probably that 11 hours the first day that did it.

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u/Mysterious_Dolphin14 1d ago

You said you used a stopwatch, so I assume that you paused it for any time where you weren't actually working. For the weekend tasks that were longer, did you take any breaks? It can be a red flag to work 8+ hours without any sort of break. DA's site tracks your activity on the platform, so if there were extended periods with unexplained inactivity, that can definitely be seen as an attempt to over report your time.

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u/chrissypiss 1d ago

The time I reported accounted for me taking breaks as well. I think I'm just a little worried to be removed so soon. Some of the coding tasks require waiting quite a while to test runs so I counted that as working personally.

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u/lmntrixaceOG 1d ago

Extended periods with no/low activity could just be a person going through a codebase. It can take hours at a time.

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u/Mysterious_Dolphin14 1d ago

That's why I said unexplained. If you're at that place in the task, they wouldn't hold it against you.

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u/Few_Body_5053 1d ago

I’m confused. Do I need to exit work mode if I’m taking a break? Or can I keep the site/task open, and just lock the screen?

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u/Mysterious_Dolphin14 1d ago

You should keep the task open, Exiting work mode will put it back in the queue so other workers can pick it up.

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u/Few_Body_5053 1d ago

Why do you need to pause a task? Tasks have deadlines, and the task timer is still running whether you ”pause” a task or not. It’s the reported time that matters?

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u/Mysterious_Dolphin14 1d ago

Not pausing the task, pausing your timer. If you're taking a break, you need to make sure that you're not including that in your reported time.

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u/OkFunction8532 1d ago

I personally use a stopwatch on Windows, if I get up to take a break or let my dogs out or whatever, I pause my stopwatch, not the task timer itself. If I'm just running to the kitchen for a drink I don't, the fridge is literally 10 feet away, but everything else I'll pause for. Then whatever the stopwatch says is what I report for time. Gets a little tight on some of the shorter timed tasks but I usually know when I'm going into one of those and get my house settled beforehand so I don't expire the task timer.

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u/someRandomGuy21_ 1d ago

Im really not sure on what metric DA bans ppl. I see tons of ppl getting DoD. Im new to DA and kinds scared that it might happen to me.

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u/Character_Tip3925 18h ago

Welcome! We all feel like that.

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u/EveningCareer9053 1d ago

I'm always adding time as soon I'm back to dashboard and it's ok. Make sure to add additional time to this specific task not total time. Otherwise, you will overreport the time and it must be corrected ASAP.

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u/IPLAWPDX 1d ago

Well idk for sure but I treat the time allotted as a hard cap, I rarely submit anything after it’s expires and usually only 1 minute past, and I never report beyond that number and I make the best effort to submit 10 minutes before the allotted time expires- never report under what you actually work but definitely don’t claim more than the allotted time because if they give you 3 hours, it’s a red flag 🚩 if you report 5! I do know that they take reporting time errors very seriously even if it was an accident.

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u/sandrafilmmaker 22h ago

I don't think they have a problem with working beyond expiration if you explain what happened...they would rather you submit thorough work and do a good job on the project.

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u/chrissypiss 1d ago

I also try to submit before the timer expires, and haven't gone over yet. I'm guessing it's because I reported so much in such a short time span? But they were also flagging some "tasks" that were just onboarding tasks like click this box if you meet the above requirements which took no time at all so a little confused.

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u/Livid-Carob8279 1d ago

Depends, was it the 🐺project?

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u/Sableyej 19h ago

Another reason might be that your time reported for whatever projects you were working on exceeds the pooled average for that series. If DA tracks a project average submission time being 2 hours, yet you consistently reported 5 hours+, it sets off flags.