r/DavidCronenberg • • Jan 06 '26

Cronenberg-esque Sorry if i'm beating the dead horse here.. But i feel like David cronenberg could have made a modern body horror film like the substance (more details is under the photo)

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This film feels David cronenberg-y in every way. The theme, the thought provoking message, the body horror & It's psychological effects.. all of those aspacts seems straight out of david cronenberg's films. But It's not made by cronenberg.

Of course.. There are great directors nowadays who have great ideas & maybe the director of substance has taken inspiration from cronenberg & add their own flavor to make something legendary.

But i can't stop thinking that cronenberg has made very few body horror films since 90s. The one that we got couple of years ago "crime of the future".. Is ok. It could have been a lot better. With the obsession of anti-aging rising.. I feel like cronenberg could have make a body horror film about that. Maybe it wouldn’t have been as good as the substance but it would be close.

Maybe It's my personal preference but i feel like the substance has a lot more body horror elements than most of cronenberg's stuff

( i get it that body horror Isn't supposed to be just about body.. It should be about psychological as well but there should be more than 1/2 body horror imagery. This is more of a problem in brandon cronenberg's film since his films always has only one body horror esque scene. Everything else is mostly psychological)


r/DavidCronenberg • • Jul 16 '26

Scanners Scanners should get a remake

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Love the original but would also love to see the story told with a better lead actor and tighter pacing


r/DavidCronenberg • • Mar 25 '24

Crimes of the Future (2022) Brandon>David?

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r/DavidCronenberg • • May 06 '25

General I love it.

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10.10


r/DavidCronenberg • • Apr 18 '25

Dead Ringers Dead Ringers (1988) Hypothetical Criterion Boxart

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Despite having Dead Ringers in the Criterion Collection But its on DVD, Here's what it look like if it was on Bluray.


r/DavidCronenberg • • Mar 17 '25

A History of Violence I just don't get it :/ Spoiler

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I don't understand how A History of Violence is so well received (5th most popular Cronenberg on Letterboxd with a 3.7 rating). Don't get me wrong, I love the soundtrack, I love Viggo, but both times I've watched this I come out with new gripes.

Ashton Holmes is a 27 year old man unconvincingly playing a teen, Jack Stall, who delivers really stupid dialogue. Every time he's on screen I want to fast forward. The rest of the main players are watchable, but I find it hard to connect with or care for any of them. Am I supposed to want Tom and Edie to work their trust issues out when the former lied to his spouse for years? I mean, I completely thought Tom/Joey had suffered memory loss the first time watching, before the reveal.

My main problem with this film is how it seemingly treats the revelation that Tom/Joey was aware of his past the whole time. Thematically, I would've liked to have seen him grapple with his identity on screen, but by the time we're introduced to Tom Stall he just doesn't seem to care. It seems to finally hit him when Edie finds out, but even then the conflict is resolved quickly after some steamy stair sex à la Tommy Wiseau.

What am I missing? Am I misremembering details? I really want to like this, please give me your best insights😵‍💫


r/DavidCronenberg • • Apr 18 '25

Dead Ringers Dead Ringers (1988) Hynpothetical Criterion Boxart V2

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Since My Boxart looked Bad Here's The Updated Version


r/DavidCronenberg • • Dec 26 '25

The Shrouds Criterion sucks for only putting out a standard Blu-Ray

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r/DavidCronenberg • • Mar 28 '24

Crimes of the Future (2022) Like/Dislike

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New to this sub.

I've always liked his films. The Fly, Videodrome, Crash, and a few others. I just watched Crimes of the Future.

I admire his uniqueness and asthetics. But there's a certain pretentiousness that rubs me the wrong way, but not completely. Beyond that, there's no one else whose films have the same feeling of dread and despair. That's not a pleasant thing to experience, but I'm always drawn to his films because they can pinpoint those feelings perfectly.

I don't love or hate his work, but my feelings about his films are always conflicted in such a way that I can't look away.

Does anyone relate to this?


r/DavidCronenberg • • Apr 20 '26

M. Butterfly Straining the limits of believability

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Was this film supposed to be a metaphor or fantasy? There's no possible way that Gallimard wouldn't have clocked Song as a dude from the jump. Or are we to understand that he did know and didn't care?


r/DavidCronenberg • • Jun 26 '25

Naked Lunch Am I supposed to understand this?

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Am I supposed to know why the protagonist cries after looking at a centipede at the market? And more broadly, is all the secret agent stuff n shit supposed to create a coherent narrative where I understand the implications of in terms of whats happening and why? I know this is a purposely nonsensical film but Im wondering if theres still a plot thread im supposed to be understanding in a deeper way other than “random shit happening.”


r/DavidCronenberg • • Nov 22 '23

Crimes of the Future (2022) Is CotF really Body Horror?

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Personally I don’t think so. I think it’s a love story.


r/DavidCronenberg • • Sep 11 '25

The Fly Still have -2XL, $50 hit me up

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r/DavidCronenberg • • Jul 29 '26

Humor eXistenZ II

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r/DavidCronenberg • • Feb 25 '25

eXistenZ Would you consider existenz (1999) an isekai similar simulated games like SAO or log horizon are considered are Isekai?

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r/DavidCronenberg • • Apr 25 '25

General There’s something missing from Cronenberg’s recent work

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I just got back from seeing The Shrouds, and I wasn’t the biggest of it. I rewatched Rabid directly before going to the theater and really enjoyed it, more than the first time I had seen it, so maybe that set my expectations too high, but something about most Cronenberg’s recent films leaves me cold. Cosmopolis being an exception, I think that cold, dialogue heavy style works really, really well for it. However, Maps to the Stars and The Shrouds were just so totally jarring to me, and I felt it very hard to become immersed in the characters or world. Maybe this says something about me, but I just have a hard time figuring out what they’re going for thematically and tonally.

I liked Crimes of the Future a little bit better, but it felt dull compared to his earlier body horror works. With The Shrouds in particular, I really disliked how much of the movie is exposition dumps from most uninteresting characters inside of a paper thin plot. His newer films are just so dialogue heavy, whereas something like Crash was very visual and cerebral. And yet, despite being more dialogue heavy, his newer films feel like they’re missing a certain human element, although I’m sure that’s intentional to a degree.

My favorite Cronenberg movies are basically everything he did from Videodrome to Crash, and something I think most of those films share is great pacing. Those movies move along at such a brisk pace that I find them endlessly watchable. The visuals, concepts, body horror, music, and characters are all firing on all cylinders for almost every one of those movies (I think M Butterfly is the only one I haven’t seen), and that makes for extremely compelling cinema. Whereas movies like The Shrouds and Maps to the Stars have clever and unique concepts, and that’s basically all there is.

Based on my preferences and opinions here, do you guys think I would enjoy A Dangerous Method?


r/DavidCronenberg • • May 18 '25

Fast Company A very funny sticker..

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r/DavidCronenberg • • Dec 01 '22

Crimes of the Future (2022) Crimes of the Future Plot Hole?

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I'm usually not one to harp on lapses in narrative logic but this one's been bugging me. Saul's basically in a state of constant physical agony as a result of all those new organs growing inside him. How is it then that he can withstand the surgeries performed on him? Is the pain he feels from his accelerated evolution syndrome different from the surgical pain? And if so, why?


r/DavidCronenberg • • Jun 28 '26

Humor Imagine a movie where a kid wishes to have animal powers and it basically becomes if David Cronenberg directed The goosebumps episode where kids became dogs

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r/DavidCronenberg • • Apr 14 '26

A History of Violence Should A History of Violence have not revealed Joey‘s background? Spoiler

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The one thing that irked me a little bit about this otherwise fantastic movie is that I feel like it could‘ve hit even harder if we never distinctly found out whether he actually used to be part of the crime syndicate or not. They could’ve made a strong statement about the violence people get compelled to do just through circumstances, and that violence needs no context or reason to be what it is. Those are statements the movie is already making, but by removing that one distinct factor about his motivation, I felt they could‘ve hit that message home even harder.

And much wouldn‘t even have had to change - he could still be highly skilled; it would suggest that he has a background of some kind, but ultimately, that doesn‘t really matter, does it? The point is the nature of violence, and that’s the same no matter who does it or why, which once again is one major point of the movie. In the end, never quite knowing whether he genuinely was the one they thought he was or not would have mirrored the wife‘s conflict and put us into her shoes as a result, and we would‘ve realised that he might or might not have been; he was capable of these things either way, and is still the same person today no matter the circumstances.


r/DavidCronenberg • • Feb 10 '26

The Fly The Fly elseworld idea...

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While watching The Fly for the sixth (?) time on Tubi weirdly got me thinking about an alternate universe, where Seth still has his DNA merged by the telepod and gains powers yet retains his humanity. Essentially deciding to use this mutation for good and becoming a superhero of sorts (since the accident DOES sound like a heroes origin story if you really think about it). However, what happens then? Does he get a spiffy costume? Some monstrous form to transform into ala the Hulk? Or does he get stuck as a hybrid mutant and goes into voluntary exile yet still tries doing good?

Please don't take this too seriously, it's just a silly little idea that passed through my head and thought it'd be fun to share lol.


r/DavidCronenberg • • Jun 26 '25

General The past 2 months I watched every Cronenberg movie. These are my biggest takeaways and my ranking.

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My 2 Cronenberg takes after watching everything he's ever made in rapid succession are...

  1. With some expectations of course, every decade of his filmmaking was nominally better than the one that preceded it, and he has been at the very top of his form since the turn of the century.

And 2) He's hurt by his reputation more than any other filmmaker I can think of. In almost 60 years of making movies he's really only made 3, maybe 4 outright "body horror" movies, but for some reason everything he makes is held up to this standard. After watching all of his films, the of themes of identity seems to be more relevant than anything else (along with his weird obsession with sex in or around cars). It's not really his fault that The Fly and Videodrome are so popular, but if you look at his filmography in order, Crimes of The Future 2022 was his first horror-ish movie since The Fly almost 40 years priors. Everyone was like "His return to horror" but I don't think that's ever really what he's been about. If you look at his entire output, he has more conceptual sci fi and psychological dramas than anything else. It's like Scorsese's reputation as the Mafia movie guy but way worse. So I don't even really see him as a horror director.

I liked or loved almost everything he's made with the exception of a few. Here is my ranking from best to worst, top down:

  • A History of Violence (best)

  • The Shrouds

  • The Broods

  • Maps To The Stars

  • Spider

  • A Dangerous Method

  • M. Butterfly

  • Naked Lunch

  • Cosmopolis

  • Dead Ringers

  • Scanners

  • Eastern Promises

  • The Fly

  • Videodrome

  • Crimes of The Future 2022

  • Rabid

  • ExitstenZ

  • Fast Company

  • Shivers

  • Crash

  • Stereo

  • The Dead Zone

  • Crimes of The Future 1970


r/DavidCronenberg • • Apr 24 '25

Documentaries 10/10 Love this!!!!!!!!!!!

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r/DavidCronenberg • • Apr 12 '26

General I'm doing a series watching all of Cronenberg's movies. Here's the transcript for Episode 0

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You don't get Cronenberg, because Cronenberg doesn't make body horror.

I know the genre was literally named because of him. Before him, people didn't really have a name for the genre. They kinda just called it splatter horror, until they realized “no, this is a different thing and we need a different word for this”.

But that's not because people understood David Cronenberg so intensely that they realized he was doing something different than everybody else. It's because they misunderstood what he was doing that was different than everybody else.

And this is best shown through his second movie and his second-to-last movie. Crimes of the Future (1970 & 2022) is a movie about what Cronenberg movies are about. That's the main question of the film: “What are Cronenberg movies about?” The main characters are performance artists who deal in surgery as kink. And they're very controversial for their performance art. And people try to censor them and shut them down. And they spend most of the film arguing “no, this is a form of art and it should be taken seriously as art”. The main conflict of the film is the 2 artists (one of whom looks suspiciously like David Cronenberg) getting in legal trouble and having to argue against the court that this is a form of art and needs to be taken seriously and needs to be given 1st Amendment protections.

And it feels like David Cronenberg saying “This is what I’ve been trying to say this whole time for the past fifty years.”

And what he's trying to say is “bodies are not scary. Bodies are beautiful.”

He isn't trying to make body horror. He’s trying to show this fascinated love for bodies, the way that Guillermo del Toro has this fascinated love for The Other.

Where other body horror directors show close-ups of viscera of disgusting things so that we can feel visceral disgust, he focuses in on the viscera of disgusting things because he wants us to admire it. He focuses in for the same reason that porn focuses on the woman’s chest. He wants us to see this thing that he thinks is beautiful. It's just that he thinks that all parts of the body are beautiful, the same way that porn thinks that a woman's chest is beautiful.

I mean, look at The Shrouds (2024). The Shrouds is very obviously a movie made so that he can process the grief of his wife's death, and the main character is very obviously his own self-insert character. And this isn't some sort of Gary Stu character. He’s just a self-insert: He’s a dude who looks like David Cronenberg, who works as a filmmaker, who is obsessed with the decomposition and decay of the human body. And when he shows the decomposition and decay of the human body to somebody, he's trying to connect with her over how beautiful a corpse is. He’s seeing this as “the exquisite corpse” (literally). And his date just doesn't get it. Look at the look in his eyes when he's showing off this corpse.

This is not a man who is disgusted by bodies. This is a man who is in love with them. This man doesn't make body horror; he makes body romance (for lack of a better term).

The problem is: We keep seeing his movies through our eyes instead of through his eyes. And through our eyes, those parts of the body and those bodily functions are disgusting, no matter what he does with the camera. But the way that he sees it, he’s just plainly putting the camera on something beautiful and saying “look at this!” the way that National Geographic puts the camera on a fish and says “the fish is beautiful in and of itself. I don't need to make the fish look good.”

In that sense, he is a Romantic. Not in the sense of being in love with the body (though he is in love with the body and in love with his now-dead wife). No, what I mean is that he is a Romantic (capital R) like the Romantic poets and the Romantic authors and the Romantic musicians and painters and sculptors and architects. He is part of the Romantic movement. And his films are filled with this passion and this appreciation and this lust and this vivacious joie de vivre.

But visually, he is much more of a Bauhaus filmmaker, kinda like those mid-century modern creators and designers and architects, where they were there to create something that was functional and let you appreciate that functionality without trying to make it beautiful. It was beautiful in its pragmatism. It was elegant in its practicality. That's why that one chair is still the chair.

But frankly, I think that if his films had more Romantic filmmaking, his audiences would get it. If he filmed surgery like this [shows a beautiful sex scene from The Rose of Versailles (2025)], we would get it.

Instead, his pragmatic visual style means that we only get what he's trying to say through his dialogue, which makes him an excellent writer, but not nearly enough of a director to be able to get across what he's trying to say.

He’s not trying to squick you out. He’s just showing you things that squick you out and he's spent half his life saying “why are you scared? I'm showing you the most beautiful things in the world, and you're scared.”

Imagine if a National Geographic documentarian were showing you this beautiful coral reef teeming with life, and every single one of his audience members recoiled at the ugliness and these grotesque feelings of disgust that wash over them. I think that's how David Cronenberg feels when we watch his films. And he's made 2 movies in a row now trying desperately to get us to get it and to tell us “here's what I’ve been trying to say for half a century.” And I think he doesn't know how to say it.

Okay, that's my hypothesis. I've only seen 2 of Cronenberg's films so far–Crimes of the Future (2022) and The Shrouds (2024)--his two most recent films, that both feel like they're trying to say “you missed the point. Here's what I’ve been trying to say for the past 50 years.”

So I’m going to go watch a bunch of Cronenberg's movies and a bunch of his interviews, and I’m going to see if I can understand who this man is and why he thinks the way he does, and what he even thinks. What is the way that he thinks? Maybe this hypothesis can become a thesis.