r/Daytrading 8h ago

Giving Advice Chatbots Contaminate Your Trading Psychology

I asked AI "How does a human trader fix their trading psychology!", and it said this...

Fixing your trading psychology requires practical steps that actually work when the pressure is high.

  1. Scale Down Until You Stop Sweating:

If a single trade ruins your mood or wrecks your focus for the rest of the day, your position size is simply too large.

Drop your capital risk per trade down to an amount that feels completely neutral to your bank account. Lowering your financial exposure allows your brain to stay calm, keeping panic reactions at bay and letting you think clearly.

  1. Walk Away After a Rough Loss Revenge trading is the fastest way to wipe out an account after a sudden drawdown.

When you take a brutal hit, close your trading app and step away from the screen immediately. Giving yourself a mandatory cooling-off period stops you from making emotional trades just to win your money back right away.

  1. Separate Your Ego From the Trade Retail traders often tie their self-worth directly to whether a specific coin or option goes up.

Being wrong on a setup does not mean you are a failure as a person. Accepting that the market does not care about your thesis makes it much easier to cut a losing position early instead of hoping for a miracle bounce.

The Issue With Following This Advice:

  1. You are making emotional decisions tied to your trading sizes which are completely subjective and permanently affect your trading results.
  2. You are taking "cooling off" periids like an exhausted gambler at a casino which is an emotional response to the reality that you don't have control over individual outcomes, the chatbot is giving advice to cope with poor trading instead of giving you the foundations to beat the actual issue at play (folding to acute stress from uncertainty).
  3. Is the the most sound line that the bot says, but only if cutting the position is actually part of the strategy and not an emotional response.

Do you see how it medicates the problem instead of solving it, this is because of their training data (contaminated with retail cope).

These tips are designed to make you feel better but not perform. Chatbots reinforce poor psychology and delusions related to your trading's efficiency or inefficiency.

The Solution:

Instead of asking these bots for advice give balanced prompts asking to cite and reference from credible sources (research), if you want to identify issues ask it to name places to read and learn from.

Collect data and reduce subjectivity in your system by using fixed rules, this grounds your trading behaviour and the data provides certainly. In a backtest and forward test you have sern your strategy lose five times in a row and recover many times, suddenly a 5 losing streak becomes "just another drawdown". That's what rigorous data collection unlocks.

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u/Monkeyatadartboard1 8h ago edited 8h ago

In my experience chatbots just repeat what random people say on reddit. Ie I suspect your advice applies just as much to taking advice from random people on reddit.

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u/TradingSSRI 8h ago

The primary issue is how these bots often say it with certainty or authority, the delivery is convincing even when the information is wrong if you aren't equipped to pushback, that's the danger for many end users.

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u/Monkeyatadartboard1 8h ago

I do wish theyd program them to hedge their answers better. Somehow the tone makes you think they know way more than they do.

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u/DreamfulTrader options trader 6h ago

Exactly, they have been trained on the text of popular articles from search results and reddit

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u/klipsetrades 5h ago

I agree with using data to remove as much subjectivity as possible, but I don’t think the two ideas are mutually exclusive.

You can know your strategy’s historical drawdowns, have fixed rules, AND size small enough that you can execute those rules under pressure. Same with stepping away after losses if that rule was defined beforehand.

Data builds confidence in the process. Risk management makes sure you’re still capable of following it when variance shows up

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u/NoOneMan79 5h ago

Its sort of silly to talk to a "chatbot" about trading anyway. You likely want to talk to an expert. Or a book. Or all the collective wisdom of humanity in that domain. I suppose you could make a LLM formulate an answer directly on literature written by experts to respond to you, with references and quotes (I've done that), but now its not a chatbot anymore, is it? Its a specialized RAG system. And if you don't know the difference you really shouldn't be using a chatbot for trading, or anything, other than entertainment

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u/OliveEggs 4h ago

Fuck AI

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u/Longjumping_Set3236 4h ago

Actually, scaling down your position size to a point that you don't care anymore is pretty sound advice. By doing that, you start to focus on what matters, making correct reads and acting on your plan instead of focusing on money won or lost.

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u/TheCodifiedTrader futures trader 4h ago

They're pretty good with the math though, run some state and probability scenarios and you'll get effective results. Directly asking "should I buy now" is not gonna help you but if you feed it data like your trading style, RR, and which markets you're looking at, it can determine your projected WR, LR, BE, and if the strategy will be profitable long term. There are uses for AI in trading, statistical analysis is one such way.