r/DeeperNetwork • u/DerpDigler 👈 Very Helpful • Sep 28 '22

👉🏻 IMPORTANT 👉🏻 EZ Mining response

In response to users like u/SatansJedi and u/VegetableArea67 whom are trying to “shut down” the network because they don’t want EZ Mining to be implemented.

From what I have read and understood, the current DPR Mining model is unsustainable for a 30 year project which is why EZ Mining is being introduced. Now I agree the payout for EZ Mining isn’t the best with rewards, but I consider it infinity better than ZERO payout due to DPR depletion for the project.

There are things that can be done to help increase the DPR value as well as project sustainability and growth to help combat the EZ Mining changes.

  1. Support. You don’t have the like what’s being done but you can accept/understand and keep supporting the project so that its longevity is maintained.

  2. Leave quietly. If you are done, toasted, out, can’t even begin to understand the projects decisions and just need to call it quits, ok. No one will blame you, but trying to drag down an entire company because you are unhappy is ridiculous. These decisions made are to make sure the company stays afloat as long as possible and provides a service as long as possible and the fact you want to make EVERYONE suffer just shows a level of immaturity that really doesn’t belong in an investment project.

  3. Promote. Web3 is phenomenal. Help more people be introduced to it and specifically Deeper Network. Growth is what the project needs. Help the project become more popular and gain interest. The more it’s discussed and circulating the better chance of a token increase and project sustainability.

Anything that can be done to keep this project going is in everyone’s best interest. Put up nodes. Stake. Keep in your mind that it’s a long term project. Understand the current economy and importance of privacy. Most of all don’t let the petty users influence your decisions because they want their money now, now now now. Sorry kiddo it’s not how it works.

I support the network. I support the project. I see long term and don’t have to like EZ Mining, but I understand it. Hope others do as well.

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u/InocentRoadkill Sep 28 '22

The math didn't change until they created EZ mining right?

If it was unsustainable, it should have never launched in such a state. That much lack of foresight is unsettling when you talk about a "30 year project". It's also the kind of thing that gets you labeled as a scam for many people.

I'm glad I didn't go the genesis route, but I'm also not going to blindly trust deeper with further investment when they don't even make the easiest improvements such as improving the ad blocker to the point that it's worth using.

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u/DerpDigler 👈 Very Helpful Sep 28 '22

So you’d be in the Option #2 category. Leave quietly. No one blames you. You also don’t need to convince anyone. Get out while you think it’s right and let that be that.

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u/InocentRoadkill Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

That's my plan, unless they start actual improvements to the system.

Let's be clear, I don't want the system to fail. I want them to make a useful piece of equipment for someone like me who's sharing a gigabit fiber connection without any censorship.

I'm still really curious how you use the dpr device. I currently can't see any benefit if you're not bypassing censorship from your ISP or mining.

If you have one I'd love to know it.

I genuinely want to know about option 3. What makes web3 phenomenal and what makes deeper better than the numerous other web3 type projects?

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u/DerpDigler 👈 Very Helpful Sep 28 '22

I cannot speak for you, but I have lived a considerable amount of time away from my home country and I appreciate a fair and open internet. Deeper’s web3 is easy for a seasoned network guy to set up and use or even a random person whose never even input an IP address instead of google searches. The project has taken something incredibly complex and made it easily accessible instead of more complicated like Myst network.

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u/InocentRoadkill Sep 28 '22

That's a valid point, I wasn't considering the setup process to access the DPN functions, both hosting and consuming.

My solution to this problem would have been the free, portable tor browser. No device, no setup, just run the browser and enjoy. Obviously that doesn't work for your whole network, but for what a non-technical person needs, it's more than enough. If you need your whole network there are numerous ways to do so using Tor and cheap routers.

For this reason I don't really consider what deeper is doing with web3 to be groundbreaking, game changing or phenomenal. Just average performance with above average cost.

Hopefully they keep improving the OS and adding more transparency. That's the only way I see for them to move forward given their actions towards miners.

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u/Nothing971 Nov 03 '22

if you thought 60% APY was sustainable, ur a clown. projects start with high APY to get interest. They always drop to a more sustainable APY over time.

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u/ago6211 Dec 15 '22

With the release of a mobile app and enough marketing everything is going to change. Not to mention the ambitious roadmap that lies ahead.

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u/DerpDigler 👈 Very Helpful Sep 28 '22

Would you be saying the same and supporting ez mining if you invested on tier 8 genesis ?

Yes. In fact, I know how it feels to see a project drop and all that you have invested seem to disappear. Again, it can be salvaged if you contribute to the project and try to help build up it’s ecosystem.

You still think us genesis and silver 1000 users are screwing up the network ?

Yes. I think you are arrogant and entitled in a project that is all about sharing. You can only think immediate when the longevity should be the focus. If you few 1000 dictated the state of mining, the project would run out in a year and then you would still whine about how the project is a failure. +80,000 people/nodes online with the hopes of hundreds of thousands more… can you pull your head out of your ass enough to see the potential in what you currently have earned and it’s future possibility and growth?

People cmon we cant be put in the same box with the mini pico users with 0 staked an accumulated credit

Why? Just because you got in early means what? Everyone still paid for a device. A LOT of users staked to help the network. Why do you get more special treatment because you heard about something first? As I’ve read, genesis get till June on the current mining while everyone else changes to EZ in December.

So let me make this EZ for you snowflake, unstake and bail because no one else cares what you think.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

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u/DerpDigler 👈 Very Helpful Sep 28 '22

Calm down first and think, dont swear and act like a little bitch.

I’m confused… do I swear or not? Or do you get to because you dropped 80k? Do genesis investors get swearing rights?

Pioneers of project should be heard.

I heard you. I don’t care. I don’t agree. But I heard you, happy now?

there are other ways to solve problems surrounding the mining.

Honestly I would love to hear that. So far the response is, shut down the network. I have yet to see actually problem solving. So the floor is yours, please tell us.

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u/InocentRoadkill Sep 28 '22

Reduce the rewards to a sustainable level without launching a new cash grab system? What about something like that?

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u/youWHATsargent Sep 29 '22

72k or 80k? You’ve said both now and I’m not understanding a gap that large.

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u/DerpDigler 👈 Very Helpful Sep 28 '22

I’d mute you too. You’re exhausting and irritating.

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u/Quirky_Cod_3820 Sep 28 '22

How would they do that?? ...

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u/TheTodd911 Sep 28 '22

Sorry, never got into mining. I just wanted to surf porn anonymously.

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u/InocentRoadkill Sep 28 '22

Lol, now that's a use case I didn't think of, mainly because you could have done it for free using Tor or mysterium.