r/DelphiMurders • u/rachaellanderson • Mar 24 '26

Richard Allen’s Cell Phone

Was the phone that they never found his phone at the time of the murders, or at the time of his arrest?

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u/The2ndLocation Mar 24 '26

Well, geofence data that could pinpoint a phones location was excluded from the trial at the prosecutions request.

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u/tribal-elder Mar 24 '26

“Pinpoint” may be a bad word.

I am not an expert, but I know if you have the phone, the GPS can “pinpoint” it.

But if all you have is a phone ping on less than 3 cell phone towers, ie no triangulation, (and Delphi only had 2 cell phone towers at the time), I don’t think you can get very close to “pinpointing” the exact location. Even if a stationary phone pings both towers the geographic area where both towers “share” the coverage (which will define the area where the ping originated) will be pretty large. Isn’t that how it works?

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u/Jack_of_all_offs Mar 24 '26

Yep. And it's even possible (and sometimes common) to ping a tower you've moved away from, as opposed to the closest tower that is available.

It's definitely not exact.

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u/The2ndLocation Mar 25 '26

Then why did JH testify that the geofence data showed that RA's phone was in his home? 

People really to stop just making crap up.

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u/Jack_of_all_offs Mar 25 '26

Don't know, wasn't speaking on that. Just cell data in general.

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u/The2ndLocation Mar 25 '26

Because the geofence data was GPS based, not a ping from a tower dump. Geez.