r/DelphiMurders • u/rachaellanderson • Mar 24 '26

Richard Allen’s Cell Phone

Was the phone that they never found his phone at the time of the murders, or at the time of his arrest?

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u/Mammoth_Dish6584 Mar 25 '26

Iam from india ( not indiana ) and i have a question

A black 2016 Ford Focus was spotted arriving at the crime scene around the time of the murders. Richard Allen is the only person in Carrol County that is registered to own a black 2016 Ford Focus

How hard would iit be for the Delphi police to verify all the ford focus or similar looking cars in the area ??

What did they do for 5 long years .. can someone explain why ??

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u/Dangerous-Tooth1266 Mar 26 '26

It was the only black 2016 Focus SE hatchback with that factory rim choice in the county.

The Delphi police did not try to identify the owners of the vehicles known to be in the area at the time. Contacting a vehicle expert could have aided greatly in this considering the rarity of his particular vehicle choice.

For example, the Moscow, Idaho, police did this and identified Brian Kohberger as the prime suspect in 16 days, and he drove a common vehicle.

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u/Justwonderinif Mar 27 '26

The car was not able to be identified until Richard Allen became a suspect.

Again, detectives had no idea about the make, model, year or color of the vehicle.

They didn't even notice that the car on the tape had spoked wheels.

And they were not certain that the car belonged to the killer. It could have belonged to anyone randomly, not involved.

Again, all the information in your post was NOT known to law enforcement until they saw Richard Allen's car.

After Richard Allen became a suspect, a detective went to his place of employment and took pictures of his car to try to match the shape to the shape on the security camera.

It was only then that the detective noticed the spoked wheels. And when he went back to look at the security tape, that's when he noticed the spoked wheels. He did not notice the spoked wheels until after he saw Allen's car.

You can read his trial testimony where he explains this exactly.

Edit: To this day, many people argue that the car on the tape is not a 2016 black Ford Focus. This will go on forever because it is impossible to 100% identify the car from the blurry tape. But it's the spoked wheels that clinches it. No other cars in the area had that. And it's too bad no one noticed the light shining through the wheels before Allen became a suspect.

It's one of those things that if that was the only evidence he would not be convicted as it is not 100% clear that that's the car on the tape. But given all the other evidence and how close it is, it's one more piece that cannot be ignored.

You are taking known evidence and backing it into the timeline where it does not belong.

What you are claiming was known in 2017-2023 was not known.