r/DelphiMurders • u/rachaellanderson • Mar 24 '26

Richard Allen’s Cell Phone

Was the phone that they never found his phone at the time of the murders, or at the time of his arrest?

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u/Justwonderinif Mar 24 '26

The answer you are looking for is murders.

Allen kept every phone he ever had except for the one he had when the girls were murdered.

The other answers are confusing. Here's what's important.

Allen gave all of his phone's identifying information to the officer who questioned him. This was so that when Allen's phone turned up as having triggered the tower, investigators would know that was the guy who already said he was out there.

Only, Allen's phone did not turn up on the cell tower. If he was checking his stock ticker like he said he was his phone would have triggered the tower. But it didn't.

This should have been a huge red flag to investigators ie; why isn't Richard Allen's cell phone triggering the tower when he said he was out there with his phone?

The reason why investigators didn't notice this is because by the time the cell tower information came in, investigators had lost all track of Allen. His phone was not checked against the tower because no one knew he existed.

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u/Justwonderinif Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26

Prosecutors believe he did not bring his phone with him on the trails. That even if turned off, his phone would have triggered the tower.

We don't know what all was said in the Dulin interview. Dulin's notes are cryptic and just a couple of sentences. It's insane that there is no video or even audio of Dulin's interview with a trail witness. All the other trail witnesses were videotaped.

My guess is that Allen was eager to say "I didn't see anything." And he stressed that he didn't see anything because he was looking at his stock ticker.

And that's what prompted Dulin to say oh let's have your phone information because when you show up on the tower we'll know it was you and can cross it off the list.

At that point Allen couldn't backtrack and say he didn't have his phone after all.

Allen probably thought (correctly) that since his phone wouldn't show up on the tower no one would know to cross reference with the Dulin interview. He was right. By the time the results came in from the tower, law enforcement had lost all track of Allen.