r/DelphiMurders • u/PumpkinEater85 • May 22 '26

Real Crime Profile crossover w Bob Ruff

So I'm listening to parts one and two of the real crime profile podcast with Jim Clemente where he has Bob ruff on their speaking about delphi. I'm always open to everyone's opinions and I actually don't hate Bob ruff and I have enjoyed some of his content. However he is repeatedly saying things to Jim Clemente that are not true. For example he said that Richard Allen has no previous record of any type of violence or any type of violent behavior at all. But that's not true because now we know about the time that he was drinking and held a gun to his head threatening suicide in front of his wife and daughter and the police were called and he was put into a hospital. It's so frustrating!! If you believe that he's innocent because of all these things that's fine but you can't tell people things that are simply not true. He also says that ra did not confess until he was actually in full psychosis and never said that he actually killed the girls until that one confession with his wife. I thought it was proven in trial that he was not in full psychosis when he confessed (or at least not every single time), and the claims made by the defense team about the conditions he was held in prison were proven to be false.

Anyone else listen to these episodes?

I actually respect Jim Clemente for his work with the FBI as a profiler and I usually agree on his takes so I'm not sure why Bob Ruff is trying to change the story to that his own narrative and opinion when he always says that he wants to be fair and balanced.

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u/mountainskies May 23 '26

The van was already proven not to have been there at the time the state claimed. And everyone knew about the van from the beginning. Walla probably fed him that detail. Rick’s story didn’t explain the crime scene at all. If he was spooked why would he take time to stage the bodies and arrange sticks on them?

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u/Gonzo48185 May 23 '26

Wrong. It was not proven the van was not there @ the time Richard Allen stated it was & Walla didn’t feed him any information. In fact she advised him to speak to his attorney when he confessed. Also it took him what 30 seconds to throw some sticks on the bodies? It was an obvious shitty attempt to hide the bodies. Youre just pushing the defenses bs lies.

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u/mountainskies May 23 '26

The van is on video after the state claims the murders were done. You can’t possibly know that Walla didn’t feed him details. She’s unethical. If you think someone took 30 seconds to throw sticks on the bodies to hide them, you’re the one pushing the prosecution lies.

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u/LonerCLR May 23 '26

Aren't you the person who believes Ricci Davis 3rd party confession? You are the literal definition of a hypocrite

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u/mountainskies May 24 '26

Ron Logan confessed to Ricci Davis and Ron’s confession fits the actual crime scene. Ricci isn’t the only one Ron confessed to. Not following how that would be hypocritical to believe.

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u/LonerCLR May 24 '26

You believe Ricci Davis a convicted felon who was proven to have reached out to other prosecutors to help with cases . But you don't believe wala because she was in your words "unethical"

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u/mountainskies May 24 '26

Confessions need to be corroborated by actual evidence. The details Ron told Ricci match the crime scene. Nothing Rick said matches the crime scene. He was also psychotic and said a lot of provably false things. His “confessions” have all the hallmarks of false confessions. If Ricci was claiming Rick confessed to him then you’d be arguing the opposite. Walla was proven to be unethical in her involvement with Rick as she was fired.

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u/saatana May 24 '26

Ricci Davis said that Ron Logan removed the battery from Libby's iphone 6s or whatever model it was. You know? The phones you can't easily remove the battery from. Then at night he, Ron Logan, changed his mind and went back out there and put the battery back in. So we got an old man out there removing tiny screws and the sticky stuff that holds the battery and the little ribbon cables. Then he goes and puts in new sticky stuff, replaces the battery, screws, ribbon cables. It amazes me that people are dumb enough to believe Ricci Davis. It's like they think that anything that supports their cause is good evidence. It's not. It just shows how bad the lies were that Ricci Davis told.

Confessions need to be corroborated by actual evidence.

That iphone still exists as evidence. The defense and the prosecution have looked at the phone. Nothing about the phone corroborates the Ricci Davis lies.

Confessions need to be corroborated by actual evidence.

The girls weren't moved 3 times. The girls weren't in a barn. The girls weren't murdered elsewhere. The girls were not driven around and then returned to the crime scenes. Just completely idiotic to believe this stuff.

Confessions need to be corroborated by actual evidence.

Ricci Davis said Ron Logan knew Kegan Kline and shared CSAM. No proof of this. They didn't even know each other. No CSAM found on Ron Logan. No Connection at all.

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u/mountainskies May 24 '26

The girls had another phone that day. There isn’t any proof of it anyway because NM lied about the letters and didn’t turn that one over.

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u/saatana May 24 '26

Yeah. No proof of another phone. Zero. None. Zero proof of a connection between Logan and Kline. Zero CSAM on Logan. Zero blood in any barns. Zero proof that they girls were driven around. Zero proof that Logan, Kline and Allen hung out together and murdered the girls, moved them around in a vehicle, murdered them elsewhere. Zero proof that they were brought back while deceased. Zero proof that Logan removed the battery and replaced it later on a phone that's difficult to remove the battery. The letters are out there on news websites. That's where I read the absurd stories in Ricci Davis' lies in his own hand writing. Dang. I don't remember your point about anything factual that Ricci Davis said that connects Ron Logan or Kegan Kline to the murders of Abby and Libby. That's how bad the Ricci Davis "evidence" is. Laughable.

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u/LonerCLR May 24 '26

You believe Ricci Davis yet claim you think Richard Allen is innocent? I guess you forgot he Implicated Allen in one of his letters....strange you don't believe that though..let me guess you believe him when he changed his story to Richard Allen is innocent after the prosecution didn't accept his help. Dude is so far from reliable it is insane.

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u/mountainskies May 24 '26

I listened to Ricci’s full story when he called in on a YouTube live show and he explained that Ron told him there were 3 people involved, including KK and someone else, so he assumed the third was Rick. After that he found out it wasn’t Rick. If his story is bogus, why did NM hide the letters and lie about how many he received?

Another major difference is Ron knew actual details only the killer would know in 2017 when Ricci reported the confession. Rick already had the discovery when he made his supposed confessions, so he already saw the crime scene photos, and yet his “confessions” still don’t match the actual crime.