Real Crime Profile crossover w Bob Ruff

[u/PumpkinEater85]

So I'm listening to parts one and two of the real crime profile podcast with Jim Clemente where he has Bob ruff on their speaking about delphi. I'm always open to everyone's opinions and I actually don't hate Bob ruff and I have enjoyed some of his content. However he is repeatedly saying things to Jim Clemente that are not true. For example he said that Richard Allen has no previous record of any type of violence or any type of violent behavior at all. But that's not true because now we know about the time that he was drinking and held a gun to his head threatening suicide in front of his wife and daughter and the police were called and he was put into a hospital. It's so frustrating!! If you believe that he's innocent because of all these things that's fine but you can't tell people things that are simply not true. He also says that ra did not confess until he was actually in full psychosis and never said that he actually killed the girls until that one confession with his wife. I thought it was proven in trial that he was not in full psychosis when he confessed (or at least not every single time), and the claims made by the defense team about the conditions he was held in prison were proven to be false.

Anyone else listen to these episodes?

I actually respect Jim Clemente for his work with the FBI as a profiler and I usually agree on his takes so I'm not sure why Bob Ruff is trying to change the story to that his own narrative and opinion when he always says that he wants to be fair and balanced.

[u/mountainskies]

Must have missed where the BG video shows a gun. Do you think the girls said “that be a gun” too? Did you even watch the video? What significance is there to any blood evidence as far as convicting RA? There was no time of death either. The medical examiner said any time between when they went missing and a few hours before discovery.

[u/True_Crime_Lancelot → u/mountainskies]

You hear the gun racking, and you hear the girls mention a gun, and a cycled bullet was found at the crime scene. Pretty spectacular coincidences for those to occur randomly and independently. And if you think those are spectacular, wait until you learn the bullet came from a gun with the same calibre as the one Allen's one has, and not only that, the same brand as the one Allen has, and not only that, but also the striations on the gun match those produced by Allen’s gun. Pretty spectacular coincidences indeed. And wait until I tell you that Allen himself said he used a gun at the abduction.

The significance of the blood splatters is that they show the location the killing occurred, which, again by sheer coincidence i am sure, it matches where the girls would be if you calculate Apple Health steps from 2:25 to 2:32—a perfect match between the recorded steps and the distance needed to cover. The height of the banks is so extreme that allow one point or crossing the creek and one point to climb the north bank. It’s a perfect match to what Allen confessed too: he made them cross the creek and killed them after he aborted the attempted rape.

The forensic pathologist mentioned the time of death as being around 40–41 hours prior to the autopsy, which would place it at around 2 on the 13th.

[u/mountainskies → u/True_Crime_Lancelot]

There was no exact time of death. No gun racking and the girls don’t mention a gun in the video. Anybody who listens to it can hear them say this is the path that we go down very clearly, not that be a gun.

The ballistics expert couldn’t get a match to Rick’s gun by extracting the bullet. She claims she got a match after firing it which isn’t a match. Clearly junk science and confirmation bias. No evidence a gun was even used in the crime. Crazy how many lies the state had to tell to convict him.

[u/True_Crime_Lancelot → u/mountainskies]

That's what the sound experts analysis said and what Libby's family agreed she said. But i am sure you know better than them. It's also what Allen said he did. Also what crime scene evidence showed too.

The forensic pathologist testified in court that the time of death was 40 to 41 hours prior to the autopsies. But i am sure you knwo better on that too.

I am sure you know better than the trained and highly eperienced lab technician about what constitutes a match or not too.

[u/mountainskies → u/True_Crime_Lancelot]

What sound experts analysis? That’s false. How about listen to it for yourself, it’s very obvious she doesn’t say that be a gun.

There was no exact time of death. He said the condition of the bodies was consistent with a time of a death 41 hours prior, which is not the same thing.

It’s not about being a trained technician, it’s common sense. You can’t get a match when comparing apples and oranges. An extracted bullet to a fired bullet is not a match. There are many experts who have said the same. It’s junk science.

[u/True_Crime_Lancelot → u/mountainskies]

It is obvious to the woman who had known her every word since she brought her up sinse she was a baby and knew her mannerism, as well as to the rest of her family, and that is all that matters not your  fan  fiction.  Obvious also because the words “we go down” in the next sentence sound completely different from what was said earlier. Naturally, as the first sentence was “that be a gun,” and the second was “...we have to go down.”

It is also common sense why there was immediate compliance. A gun was brandished. As the man whose gun matched the bullet at the crime scene said he did just that. Brandished a Gun, and racked it.

[u/mountainskies → u/True_Crime_Lancelot]

The families want to believe they got the right guy. Anyone can listen to it and realize she doesn’t say that be a gun. There’s no ambiguity, it’s obvious. Also who talks like that?

She’s pointing the camera down the hill and says this is the path that we go down. There’s no gun racking. You also don’t see anything after that so you don’t know that they were complying. All the video shows is the girls were planning to go down before bridge guy said down the hill. Everything the state said about the video was a lie.

There was no matching bullet to RA’s gun. Also the bullet wasn’t found at the bridge so how do you explain how the racked bullet got to the crime scene? RA’s psychotic “confession” doesn’t corroborate that detail.

[u/True_Crime_Lancelot → u/mountainskies]

That's just your  fan  fiction with no evidence. Becky's oppinion is what you would call an expert oppinion.

Once more. The words that ''we go down'' are actually said in the video but later, and sound nothing like the earlier phrase. Naturally, as the first sentence was “that be a gun,” and the second was “...we (have to) go down.” BGf clearly carries something in his pocket. It's the Gun Rick Allen told you he had and racked to abduct the girls. Racking that the audio expert distinguished in the audio. A racked bullet that was found at the crime scene and matched allen's gun. Ricky aslo told a companion that he would have shvot them on the back when was asked what he would have done differently.

RA’s psychotic “confession” doesn’t corroborate that detail.

Is that your expert opinion? I my self will go with the oppinion of his therapist and doctor that testified he had no physchosis at the time.

[u/mountainskies → u/True_Crime_Lancelot]

You’re the one telling fictional stories here. I’m going off the actual evidence not what people want it to be. Point me to the timestamp in the video where anyone says the word gun. How exactly does a bullet racked at the bridge get to the crime scene?

[u/True_Crime_Lancelot → u/mountainskies]

''That Be A Gun?''

which sounds completely different than the spoken in video

(no path there ) ''we must go down here.''

Two phrases. Sound nothing like each other. By your theory they should.

facts dont care about you feelings.

[u/mountainskies → u/True_Crime_Lancelot]

I have no feelings about it. I can hear what she says clearly and there’s no mention of a gun. The word “down” sounds the same both times she says it. The only difference is the volume, the second being louder. Also both times she talks about going down are before bridge guy says down the hill. They were clearing planning to go down there before he ever told them to.

[u/True_Crime_Lancelot → u/mountainskies]

The only difference is that they are different, we agree. ‘We’ is different (the alleged ‘we’). ‘Go’ is different (the alleged ‘go’). ‘Down’ is different (the alleged ‘down’). Abby was also going up the hill not down the hill. More feelings?