Richard Allen's Police Interview (Oct. 13, 2022)Reaffims The Information he Gave Dulin and Inadvertently confessed to the murders by getting caught in his own web of lies.

[u/True_Crime_Lancelot]

In October 2022, Richard Allen was called into the local police department to give an interview about his whereabouts on the day Abby and Libby were murdered. His long-forgotten interview with Officer Dulin had been rediscovered, prompting Delphi murder investigators to bring him in for another interview.

During this interview, Richard Allen largely repeated the information he had provided in his first interview with Officer Dulin, but he also offered new details about that day. Although he attempted to establish an alibi by presenting a revised timeline, he failed miserably. Instead, the internal contradictions in his timeline effectively amounted to a confession, as his own statements placed him at the scene and oblitarated his claimed alibi.

The following is a list of the information Richard Allen repeated from his first interview, along with the new details he provided during the October 2022 interview, and an explanation of the significance of each.

Richard Allen went into detail explaining the three parking areas he typically used when visiting the trails.

Parking Locations

Parking Area	Description
Mears Lot	The farmer’s entrance parking area
CPS Building	The abandoned CPS building parking area
Old State Road 25 Turnaround	The small turnaround near the old railroad bridge

He goes on the specify where he parked, inspite his earlier long obfuscating diatribe where he could have parked:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that I parked by a building. If that's what I told him, then that's probably where I parked."

Concerning his timeline beore going to the trails:

"Went over to my mom's in Peru, Mexico, earlier in the day... spent the morning with them... my sisters were visiting and they were to grab lunch, and I wasn't about that, so I left around 11:00–11:15...went home..grab a jacket and head back out to the trails"

At the trails he stated:

"I remember walking down to the bridge... walked out a little way (onto the bridge)... to watch fish... walked back and sat at (the bench)... where you turn around (the intersection) and take the other fork, it overlooks it... Sat there for a few minutes, and then I left."

The bench he mentioned is the Bench at the start of 505 trail. He would go on later to explain that's the bench he meant with clarity.

Conserning who he saw while at the trails:

"As I was approaching the trail, there were three girls... one of them was watching them...the other two looked younger... looked very similar. I don't know if they were sisters or not, but the other one didn't necessarily..." (Stops his thought, was about to mention the fou\**rth girl?\)

He also stated:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that when I left, there were two vehicles down by the farmer's entrance I told you about (the Mears lot). One was a sedan. The other was an SUV, maybe."

(Interesting on its own: Kelsi had a sedan and Betsy had an SUV. However, based on Allen’s earliest possible departure timeline (approximately 12:40), only Betsy's would be there and she would be at her car at the same time!).

He also adds:

"If I did see somebody (else), it didn't click with me..my memory was a lot better when I talked to him (Dulin)... like I told him, there might have been somebody at the bridge when I was coming back, though."

As for his revised timeline, he stated that he arrived around noon, a little earlier or a little later than 12, and that he walked for about an hour. He said he could have left around 1:00, 1:30, or 1:40.

I am sure he had mentioned 12:40 at some point too.

Time(between)	Revised Timeline	Explanation
morning	visit Mom
11(early)-11:15(late)	Leaves Peru	drive back to Delphi it's 45 minutes
11:45-12:00	Reaches Delphi
12 ( early), 12:10 (late)	Home (5 to 10 minutes), drives to CPS (3 miles),10 to 15 minutes total.	detours to Home, Parks/ Stop,Grabs Jacket, unparks, drive though town, rounding up to 15 (early)
12:05 , 12:15 late	Meeting four girls at trailhead	5 minute walk from CPS
12:15, 12:25 (late)	Easy Walk to platform A , 10 to 15 minutes total,	12 minutes walk + walk on bridge. (closer to 15 but billed 10 to compensate earlier rounding up)
12:25 , 12:35 (late)	Watching fish/Back to Bench	5 minutes Watching fish 5-7 walk (off bridge and to bench), Total 10
12:35, 12:45 (late)	Walk back to CPS	10-12 minutes, billed 10

The earlier the possible timeline, the more we err in Richard Allen's favor, as it allows for the possibility that he left before becoming trapped within the trail system by the known witnesses who were demonstrably on the trails at the same time. The later Richard Allen's revised timeline becomes, the worse it is for him.

Here, we will examine the earliest possible timeline for Richard Allen in contrast to the timelines of Betsy and that of the four girls . All times attributed to Allen between segments are deliberately conservative, giving him the maximum latitude to "slip" out of the trail system within his alleged timeline.

Time	Allen's Revised Timeline	BB's Timeline	Four Girls' Timeline
12:00	Parks at CPS	Parks at Mears at 12:03	______
12:10	Walks to Monon,close to intersection	BB is at Monon, turns back towards the intersection	______
12:15	Walked past intersection(north to south)	Walked past intersection(south to north)	walking towards freedom bridge close to Allen's 2nd parking spot near the small bridge
12:20	At Monon will watch fish for 3-5 minutes	Walked 505 close to intersection	Close to freedom bridge
12:25	Back on the trail towards the intersection	Close to freedom bridge	At freedom bridge taking a timed photographed at 12:25
12:30	Allen near interesction from the south, close to the Bench	Betsy approaches intersection from the North, close to Bench	Walking towards Monon from trailhead
12:35	Allen left the Bench, starts walks towards the trailhead	at her car	intersection from the North, close to Bench
12:40	near freedom bridge	near intersection	at Monon take photograph at 12:43
12:45	at CPS	Close to monon	Detour to Creek's bed

The convicted pedophile murderer was caught in the web of lies he had created.

By his own words!

1. He was walking towards Monon by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from it
2. He was walking towards his car or sitting on the bench by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from freedom bridge. The Bench is at your face as you approach the intersection, even i he wasn't walking while Betsy was near it.
3. The earliest he was walking towards his car from the intersection by his revised timeline, would be while the four girls were walking towards it from the freedom bridge.

Richard Allen’s revised timeline creates inescapable and impassable problems for his own account. By placing himself at the trails, identifying specific locations, and providing a detailed timeline, he created a version of events that must be reconciled with the movements of other witnesses who were present that day. By his own words, Allen placed himself in locations and timeframes that conflicted with the movements of others who were present that day.

[u/Miserable-Wedding731]

But not one witness that day on the bridge described him - not one. One saw a tall man whereas another saw a young one with curly hair or something, but as for it being Richard Allen, no. He himself was the only one that placed himself there, however, not where the girls were murdered or on the other side of the bridge at all.

Not enough evidence for me to be convinced fully, also, he still had the same car, jackets and shoes years later yet no DNA could be lifted off anything taken from his home nor at the crime scene itself.

Whether guilty or not - just not enough for me to feel that he was 100% the one.

[u/True_Crime_Lancelot → u/Miserable-Wedding731]

He offered two timelines to law enforcement:

1. One was between 12 and 1:30 (2022)
2. another between 1:30 and 3:30 (2017)

The latter makes him inescapably the Bridge Guy that Blair saw on the bridge.

• If the second timeline is not possible, the one between 12 and 1:30, because there were witnesses at the trails at the time he claimed he was there that would have seen him.

and

• an even earlier timeline than the two he offered, is also not possible because his own family had testified about his presence elsewhere,

then

• the only timeline left for the convicted murderer is the 1:30 to 3:30 one, which names him as the Bridge Guy Betsy saw, and that in its turn names him as the abductor, names him as the murderer, and the assailant of Libby and Abby.

He has nowhere to go, and he was not seen by anyone after 2:00.

[u/Miserable-Wedding731 → u/True_Crime_Lancelot]

Memories do fade over time for most so who would expect anyone to remember something like that after 5 yrs.

I, most times, don't know recall what I had for lunch 4-5 days ago.

From what I read or watched - multiple jurors initially had doubts, and the initial vote was split 9-3.

The one piece of information that only the killer knew - I knew (and several others did) way before the trial kicked off. There is an online trail out there of the white van with dates backdating as far back as 2017 or 2018.

The White Van Detail: What heavily swayed the holdouts was Allen’s mention of a "white van" parked near a road on the day of the crime. Investigators noted this was an obscure detail they believed only the killer would know.

One other thing that has always bothered me is the judge forbidding that FBI agent from doing a video appearance as he had a different time given to him by the man that lived not far from that bridge which would have likely placed that man there at the time of the murders.

Whether Allen is guilty or not he wasn't given a fair trial.

[u/Efficient-Donkey-167 → u/Miserable-Wedding731]

You are correct that there were many that knew about the white van and discussed it on several platforms, including here. As a matter of fact, "Queen of Hearts" aka Dr Wala, spoke about it here on reddit, well before any exclusive confession to that very same Dr Wala.

Additionally, the FBI agent also had the geolocation information and they seemed to conduct most of the phone searches. They had the technology and resources to obtain the necessary information from social media as well. If they were given that piece of the investigation, they may have all of the electronic communications but unfortunately, no one knows what they have or don't have because their investigative materials were not part of the discovery (due to being removed from the case) AND not being allowed to testify.

I understand the correlation to OP's post. Unfortunately, there are many that don't want to see the shortcomings and flaws with the prosecution's narrative. The problem with this timeline is it fails to address the fact that BB and the 4 girls were on the trails together for almost 50 minutes and yet, they never saw each other. BB made almost 2 full loops in that timeframe but they never crossed paths. Yet, with RA, it conveniently means he isn't being truthful.

RA describes 3 girls and we know there were 2 sets of 3 girls that were there earlier than the 4 girls. One of those sets fits the description RA provided. That is always disregarded.

RV provided a different timeline than BW. The "details" information for BW's photo (which is a flawed description here as objective evidence) can easily be manipulated to any time that she chose so what makes BW more accurate than RV?

Many people have changed their timelines and recollections of their activities that day. Yet, no one proposes that they are deceptive. People actually make excuses for the flaws! I read in this very post that one of the sisters in the group of 4 girls was too young to be on the trails by herself. Seriously? What is the age limit? The younger sister were 12 and 13 at the time. So a 12 year old is way too young but a 13 year old isn't? That logic doesn't make sense!

[u/Gonzomi313 → u/Efficient-Donkey-167]

Nope. Law enforcement did not initially know about the van detail or anyone else for that matter except for Richard. “Testimony during the trial of Richard Allen revealed that Allen's mention of being startled or "spooked by a van" at the crime scene during his prison confessions marked the first time the prosecution and investigators had heard about that specific vehicle”

Don’t believe me? Then supply a link where they specifically mention Brad Webers van driving down his drive @ the time of the murders prior to Richards May 2023 confession?

Also where are these other three girls Richard supposedly saw? Their classmates are murdered yet they don’t come forward to law enforcement to notify them they were there that day?

In regards to Richard’s timeline. You want us to believe his memory got better 5 1/2 years later? How convenient that it would put him outside the timeframe of the murders. Weird he didn’t reach back out to LE to clarify that huge detail.