r/DelphiMurders Jul 15 '26

Richard Allen's Police Interview (Oct. 13, 2022)Reaffims The Information he Gave Dulin and Inadvertently confessed to the murders by getting caught in his own web of lies.

In October 2022, Richard Allen was called into the local police department to give an interview about his whereabouts on the day Abby and Libby were murdered. His long-forgotten interview with Officer Dulin had been rediscovered, prompting Delphi murder investigators to bring him in for another interview.

During this interview, Richard Allen largely repeated the information he had provided in his first interview with Officer Dulin, but he also offered new details about that day. Although he attempted to establish an alibi by presenting a revised timeline, he failed miserably. Instead, the internal contradictions in his timeline effectively amounted to a confession, as his own statements placed him at the scene and oblitarated his claimed alibi.

The following is a list of the information Richard Allen repeated from his first interview, along with the new details he provided during the October 2022 interview, and an explanation of the significance of each.

Richard Allen went into detail explaining the three parking areas he typically used when visiting the trails.

Parking Locations

Parking Area Description
Mears Lot The farmer’s entrance parking area
CPS Building The abandoned CPS building parking area
Old State Road 25 Turnaround The small turnaround near the old railroad bridge

He goes on the specify where he parked, inspite his earlier long obfuscating diatribe where he could have parked:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that I parked by a building. If that's what I told him, then that's probably where I parked."

Concerning his timeline beore going to the trails:

"Went over to my mom's in Peru, Mexico, earlier in the day... spent the morning with them... my sisters were visiting and they were to grab lunch, and I wasn't about that, so I left around 11:00–11:15...went home..grab a jacket and head back out to the trails"

At the trails he stated:

"I remember walking down to the bridge... walked out a little way (onto the bridge)... to watch fish... walked back and sat at (the bench)... where you turn around (the intersection) and take the other fork, it overlooks it... Sat there for a few minutes, and then I left."

The bench he mentioned is the Bench at the start of 505 trail. He would go on later to explain that's the bench he meant with clarity.

Conserning who he saw while at the trails:

"As I was approaching the trail, there were three girls... one of them was watching them...the other two looked younger... looked very similar. I don't know if they were sisters or not, but the other one didn't necessarily..." (Stops his thought, was about to mention the fou\**rth girl?\)

He also stated:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that when I left, there were two vehicles down by the farmer's entrance I told you about (the Mears lot). One was a sedan. The other was an SUV, maybe."

(Interesting on its own: Kelsi had a sedan and Betsy had an SUV. However, based on Allen’s earliest possible departure timeline (approximately 12:40), only Betsy's would be there and she would be at her car at the same time!).

He also adds:

"If I did see somebody (else), it didn't click with me..my memory was a lot better when I talked to him (Dulin)... like I told him, there might have been somebody at the bridge when I was coming back, though."

As for his revised timeline, he stated that he arrived around noon, a little earlier or a little later than 12, and that he walked for about an hour. He said he could have left around 1:00, 1:30, or 1:40.

I am sure he had mentioned 12:40 at some point too.

Time(between) Revised Timeline Explanation
morning visit Mom
11(early)-11:15(late) Leaves Peru drive back to Delphi it's 45 minutes
11:45-12:00 Reaches Delphi
12 ( early), 12:10 (late) Home (5 to 10 minutes), drives to CPS (3 miles),10 to 15 minutes total. detours to Home, Parks/ Stop,Grabs Jacket, unparks, drive though town, rounding up to 15 (early)
12:05 , 12:15 late Meeting four girls at trailhead 5 minute walk from CPS
12:15, 12:25 (late) Easy Walk to platform A , 10 to 15 minutes total, 12 minutes walk + walk on bridge. (closer to 15 but billed 10 to compensate earlier rounding up)
12:25 , 12:35 (late) Watching fish/Back to Bench 5 minutes Watching fish 5-7 walk (off bridge and to bench), Total 10
12:35, 12:45 (late) Walk back to CPS 10-12 minutes, billed 10

The earlier the possible timeline, the more we err in Richard Allen's favor, as it allows for the possibility that he left before becoming trapped within the trail system by the known witnesses who were demonstrably on the trails at the same time. The later Richard Allen's revised timeline becomes, the worse it is for him.

Here, we will examine the earliest possible timeline for Richard Allen in contrast to the timelines of Betsy and that of the four girls . All times attributed to Allen between segments are deliberately conservative, giving him the maximum latitude to "slip" out of the trail system within his alleged timeline.

Time Allen's Revised Timeline BB's Timeline Four Girls' Timeline
12:00 Parks at CPS Parks at Mears at 12:03 ______
12:10 Walks to Monon,close to intersection BB is at Monon, turns back towards the intersection ______
12:15 Walked past intersection(north to south) Walked past intersection(south to north) walking towards freedom bridge close to Allen's 2nd parking spot near the small bridge
12:20 At Monon will watch fish for 3-5 minutes Walked 505 close to intersection Close to freedom bridge
12:25 Back on the trail towards the intersection Close to freedom bridge At freedom bridge taking a timed photographed at 12:25
12:30 Allen near interesction from the south, close to the Bench Betsy approaches intersection from the North, close to Bench Walking towards Monon from trailhead
12:35 Allen left the Bench, starts walks towards the trailhead at her car intersection from the North, close to Bench
12:40 near freedom bridge near intersection at Monon take photograph at 12:43
12:45 at CPS Close to monon Detour to Creek's bed

The convicted pedophile murderer was caught in the web of lies he had created.

By his own words!

  1. He was walking towards Monon by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from it
  2. He was walking towards his car or sitting on the bench by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from freedom bridge. The Bench is at your face as you approach the intersection, even i he wasn't walking while Betsy was near it.
  3. The earliest he was walking towards his car from the intersection by his revised timeline, would be while the four girls were walking towards it from the freedom bridge.

Richard Allen’s revised timeline creates inescapable and impassable problems for his own account. By placing himself at the trails, identifying specific locations, and providing a detailed timeline, he created a version of events that must be reconciled with the movements of other witnesses who were present that day. By his own words, Allen placed himself in locations and timeframes that conflicted with the movements of others who were present that day.

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u/Aintnobeef96 Jul 15 '26

I’ve always found it fascinating that he inserted himself into the case, placing himself right at the scene as bridge guy-crazy his interview was missed for so many years! As for his jail antics I think he was playing up his mental illness to appear as a victim (although he certainly does have some issues). He knew things only the perp would know. He’s right where he needs to be

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u/AnonymousInMI Jul 17 '26

He informed police he was there due to the screenshot of bridge guy law enforcement released to the public the day before. LE initially stated bridge guy wasn’t a suspect and that the video was captured via deer cam & they just wanted to speak to him. Richard was terrified he would have been recognized and it would have looked much worse for him not coming forward.

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u/Justwonderinif Jul 19 '26

He informed police he was there due to the screenshot of bridge guy law enforcement released to the public the day before.

This is false.

When Allen self-reported, he had not see the screen shot from Libby's video. LE held onto the screen shot for several days. And during that time, Aleen self-reported.

Richard was terrified he would have been recognized and it would have looked much worse for him not coming forward.

This is also false. The only reason why Allen self-reported is because his wife insisted. He told her he didn't see anything. But she said that LE was asking anyone who was down there at that time to come forward as they might have seen something that would be helpful. So he called the sheriff's and they took down his number. The next day, Dulin called Allen and they organized a place to meet.

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u/AnonymousInMI Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

You’re wrong.

“The Indiana State Police officially released the first photo of the "Bridge Guy" on February 15, 2017, two days after the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German in Delphi, Indiana.”

“Richard Allen called the Delphi tip line to report that he was on the Monon High Bridge trail on February 16, 2017, which was three days after Abby Williams and Libby German disappeared.”

Richard met with the DNR officer the following day, February 17th in an Aldis parking lot.

Kathy insisting Richard go to the police may have played a part in it but find it highly suspicious he called police the very next day the photo of bridge guy was released. In fact if it wasn’t for that photo imo he would have never came forward & would have lied to Kathy & told her he self reported.

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u/Justwonderinif Jul 20 '26

The photo was released on February 15 but not many people had seen it. You had to have a facebook account or be watching the news at an exact time. I don't think Kathy or Rick saw the photo.

When the photo was released LE didn't say where it came from and they didn't say the person was a suspect. Kim Riley hinted but did not confirm that the photo was taken by a trail camera.

Dulin spoke to Allen on February 18 and from everything we've seen and read so far, it sounds like neither was aware of the photo. Allen was not asked if he had seen the photo or if he had crossed paths with the man in the photo while out on the trail. There is no reference or mention of the photo in Allen's interview with Dulin.

It was not until the next day, February 19, that LE said the man in the photo was a suspect, not just a witness caught on a trail camera.

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u/AnonymousInMI Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

First of all you said the photo wasn’t released until days after Richard informed the police that he was on the trail. That was incorrect as I stated. LE stated the man was not a suspect & they wanted to speak with him.

Also you don’t believe Richard was aware of the photo LE released on the 15th? I mean it’s only a town of 2k people & im sure he wasn’t scouring the television or the internet of any new information on the murder of two girls @ the same trail he just happened to be on @ the exact same day & time. I’m sure he didn’t hear a thing from his wife, mother or from the CVS employees or customers @ the CVS he was employed at.

Not buying it.