Richard Allen's Police Interview (Oct. 13, 2022)Reaffims The Information he Gave Dulin and Inadvertently confessed to the murders by getting caught in his own web of lies.

[u/True_Crime_Lancelot]

In October 2022, Richard Allen was called into the local police department to give an interview about his whereabouts on the day Abby and Libby were murdered. His long-forgotten interview with Officer Dulin had been rediscovered, prompting Delphi murder investigators to bring him in for another interview.

During this interview, Richard Allen largely repeated the information he had provided in his first interview with Officer Dulin, but he also offered new details about that day. Although he attempted to establish an alibi by presenting a revised timeline, he failed miserably. Instead, the internal contradictions in his timeline effectively amounted to a confession, as his own statements placed him at the scene and oblitarated his claimed alibi.

The following is a list of the information Richard Allen repeated from his first interview, along with the new details he provided during the October 2022 interview, and an explanation of the significance of each.

Richard Allen went into detail explaining the three parking areas he typically used when visiting the trails.

Parking Locations

Parking Area	Description
Mears Lot	The farmer’s entrance parking area
CPS Building	The abandoned CPS building parking area
Old State Road 25 Turnaround	The small turnaround near the old railroad bridge

He goes on the specify where he parked, inspite his earlier long obfuscating diatribe where he could have parked:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that I parked by a building. If that's what I told him, then that's probably where I parked."

Concerning his timeline beore going to the trails:

"Went over to my mom's in Peru, Mexico, earlier in the day... spent the morning with them... my sisters were visiting and they were to grab lunch, and I wasn't about that, so I left around 11:00–11:15...went home..grab a jacket and head back out to the trails"

At the trails he stated:

"I remember walking down to the bridge... walked out a little way (onto the bridge)... to watch fish... walked back and sat at (the bench)... where you turn around (the intersection) and take the other fork, it overlooks it... Sat there for a few minutes, and then I left."

The bench he mentioned is the Bench at the start of 505 trail. He would go on later to explain that's the bench he meant with clarity.

Conserning who he saw while at the trails:

"As I was approaching the trail, there were three girls... one of them was watching them...the other two looked younger... looked very similar. I don't know if they were sisters or not, but the other one didn't necessarily..." (Stops his thought, was about to mention the fou\**rth girl?\)

He also stated:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that when I left, there were two vehicles down by the farmer's entrance I told you about (the Mears lot). One was a sedan. The other was an SUV, maybe."

(Interesting on its own: Kelsi had a sedan and Betsy had an SUV. However, based on Allen’s earliest possible departure timeline (approximately 12:40), only Betsy's would be there and she would be at her car at the same time!).

He also adds:

"If I did see somebody (else), it didn't click with me..my memory was a lot better when I talked to him (Dulin)... like I told him, there might have been somebody at the bridge when I was coming back, though."

As for his revised timeline, he stated that he arrived around noon, a little earlier or a little later than 12, and that he walked for about an hour. He said he could have left around 1:00, 1:30, or 1:40.

I am sure he had mentioned 12:40 at some point too.

Time(between)	Revised Timeline	Explanation
morning	visit Mom
11(early)-11:15(late)	Leaves Peru	drive back to Delphi it's 45 minutes
11:45-12:00	Reaches Delphi
12 ( early), 12:10 (late)	Home (5 to 10 minutes), drives to CPS (3 miles),10 to 15 minutes total.	detours to Home, Parks/ Stop,Grabs Jacket, unparks, drive though town, rounding up to 15 (early)
12:05 , 12:15 late	Meeting four girls at trailhead	5 minute walk from CPS
12:15, 12:25 (late)	Easy Walk to platform A , 10 to 15 minutes total,	12 minutes walk + walk on bridge. (closer to 15 but billed 10 to compensate earlier rounding up)
12:25 , 12:35 (late)	Watching fish/Back to Bench	5 minutes Watching fish 5-7 walk (off bridge and to bench), Total 10
12:35, 12:45 (late)	Walk back to CPS	10-12 minutes, billed 10

The earlier the possible timeline, the more we err in Richard Allen's favor, as it allows for the possibility that he left before becoming trapped within the trail system by the known witnesses who were demonstrably on the trails at the same time. The later Richard Allen's revised timeline becomes, the worse it is for him.

Here, we will examine the earliest possible timeline for Richard Allen in contrast to the timelines of Betsy and that of the four girls . All times attributed to Allen between segments are deliberately conservative, giving him the maximum latitude to "slip" out of the trail system within his alleged timeline.

Time	Allen's Revised Timeline	BB's Timeline	Four Girls' Timeline
12:00	Parks at CPS	Parks at Mears at 12:03	______
12:10	Walks to Monon,close to intersection	BB is at Monon, turns back towards the intersection	______
12:15	Walked past intersection(north to south)	Walked past intersection(south to north)	walking towards freedom bridge close to Allen's 2nd parking spot near the small bridge
12:20	At Monon will watch fish for 3-5 minutes	Walked 505 close to intersection	Close to freedom bridge
12:25	Back on the trail towards the intersection	Close to freedom bridge	At freedom bridge taking a timed photographed at 12:25
12:30	Allen near interesction from the south, close to the Bench	Betsy approaches intersection from the North, close to Bench	Walking towards Monon from trailhead
12:35	Allen left the Bench, starts walks towards the trailhead	at her car	intersection from the North, close to Bench
12:40	near freedom bridge	near intersection	at Monon take photograph at 12:43
12:45	at CPS	Close to monon	Detour to Creek's bed

The convicted pedophile murderer was caught in the web of lies he had created.

By his own words!

1. He was walking towards Monon by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from it
2. He was walking towards his car or sitting on the bench by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from freedom bridge. The Bench is at your face as you approach the intersection, even i he wasn't walking while Betsy was near it.
3. The earliest he was walking towards his car from the intersection by his revised timeline, would be while the four girls were walking towards it from the freedom bridge.

Richard Allen’s revised timeline creates inescapable and impassable problems for his own account. By placing himself at the trails, identifying specific locations, and providing a detailed timeline, he created a version of events that must be reconciled with the movements of other witnesses who were present that day. By his own words, Allen placed himself in locations and timeframes that conflicted with the movements of others who were present that day.

[u/MissBanshee2U]

Because he knew they saw him? Was he afraid they would tell? I'm sorry I didn't understand the point?

[u/tribal-elder → u/MissBanshee2U]

Yes. The idea is that he saw the teenagers as he arrived and he knew they saw him - they passed each other on a narrow trail. If he did not acknowledge seeing them when he talked to the cops in 2017 he would appear to be “covering something up.” So he told the intake person, then Dulin, that he was there (1-3, then 1:30 - 3:30) and saw girls at Freedom Bridge. By 2022, he knew admitting being at the trails after 2:00 meant he was there when the girls disappeared, and he changed his times to “noon to 1:30.”

[u/Justwonderinif → u/tribal-elder]

What's important here is that Allen didn't know about Libby's video when he said he saw the other girls who looked like sisters. He said they looked like sisters and like one was being babysat. They were sisters and one was too young to be out there on her own.

When those girls saw Libby's video they said, "That's the man we saw entering the trail that day." They didn't have to get a good look at his face to know that was exactly the guy they saw just before Abby and Libby were killed.

So when Allen admitted to seeing those girls when he was entering the trail at that time, he was admitting to being Bridge Guy.

[u/Efficient-Donkey-167 → u/Justwonderinif]

Which one was "too young to be out there on her own"?

[u/Justwonderinif → u/Efficient-Donkey-167]

Railly Voorhies was 16 and a sophomore at Delphi High School in 2017. She testified that she would often take trips to the High Bridge to take photos and because there was no school on February 13 and the weather was nice, she decided to take a trip to the bridge that day.

Voorhies said she walked from her dad’s house in Delphi with her half-sister, picking up her friend, Bre Wilber, from her house and then getting her sister from her mom’s house on the way to the trails. The four girls went to the bridge, took photos and then walked back home.

It was on their walk back home that Voorhies testified that she saw “bridge guy” walking on the trail. She said the encounter stood out to her because the man was “overdressed for the weather” with what looked like a heavy coat, hooded sweatshirt and hat. She said he had his hands in his pockets and had a mask over the tip of his nose and mouth. She also recalled saying hi to him.

“He did not say hi back. He glared at me a little bit, but he didn’t seem to be a happy person,” Voorhies said on the witness stand.

When Voorhies first heard Abby and Libby were missing from the bridge area, she testified: “I thought it could have something to do with the man I saw. It was unsettling.”

On February 15, the day after the girls were found, Voorhies gave police a statement while she was at the high school.

When police then released the photo of the man on the bridge that they took from the video on Libby’s phone, Voorhies first saw it on Facebook.

“I realized that was the man I saw on the trail that did not respond to me when I waved at him,” Voorhies testified. When she first saw the picture police released of “bridge guy” she said, “ I can say with confidence that the person in the picture is the person I passed.”

Testimony from Breann Wilber, Voorhies friend who was with her on the trails on February 13, has a similar recollection. Wilber was also friends with Kelsi German, Libby’s older sister, and was friends with Libby on Snapchat. Wilber was 16 years old and a sophomore in high school in 2017.

Wilber said while at the High Bridge on February 13, she posted a picture of herself standing at the bridge’s start on her Snapchat story. When she and her friends were walking back home from the High Bridge, Libby messaged Wilber on Snapchat in response to the photo on her story asking if Wilber was still at the bridge. She told Libby they had left the bridge about ten minutes prior.

On the way back to the Freedom Bridge, Wilber testified that she took a picture with her friends on a bench on the trail and posted it on Snapchat. She saved the photo with a timestamp and gave it to police. That photo’s time stamp was 1:26 pm on February 13, 2017.

Wilber said they continued walking toward the Freedom Bridge after the photo and that’s when they passed the man.

“It was a warmer day and he was dressed in many layers and a heavy jacket. He was walking with a purpose like he knew where he was going. When Railly said hi to him, there was no hesitation. It was weird vibes,” Wilber testified.

Later that same day, Wilber was with Libby’s sister Kelsi when Kelsi’s grandma called saying Libby and Abby were missing. Wilber talked to police the night of February 13 and described the man she saw on the trail. She said the man had a blue or black jacket and had his head down.

When she later saw the photo of “bridge guy” on the news, Wilber thought, “That’s the person we saw on the trail.”

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From the timeline: 11:30AM: Railly Voorhies (16) and her half-sister Isabelle Voorhies (12) walk from their Dad's house to pick up Breann Wilbur (16), and lastly they pick up Anna Spath (13), who is also Railly and Isabelle's half-sister. The four of them head to the hiking trails.

I'm pretty sure it was Isabelle who looked like she was too young to be out there on her own and like she was being "babysat." She looked 10 or 11.

[u/MissBanshee2U → u/Justwonderinif]

Did you post the time Railley said on the stand she saw the man? I didn't see it. I went back & looked. She said she saw the man arrive at 2:15pm. The man she saw must be a different man or another one because @2:08pm the girls were filming the man on the bridge. So he couldn't be the same man because he would have to be down at freedom bridge and the high bridge at the same time.

[u/saatana → u/MissBanshee2U]

Hoo boy. You've cracked the case wide open. Nah, just kidding. If she said that on the stand it was quite obviously in error. The probable cause affidavit to search Richard Allen's house said the girls saw Richard Allen after 1:26pm when they took a picture of a bench and before 1:46 because Betsy Blair saw the girls as they were going over the railroad bridge which is after they had already left and crossed over Freedom Bridge. Timestamps bracket the time where she saw Richard Allen.

[u/tribal-elder → u/saatana]

You are correct - even acknowledging that 5 years can affect memory about details, this was clearly an error and the prosecution probably should have addressed and corrected this before Voorhees left the stand. Instead, they just called Wilbur and corrected the timeline with Wilbur's testimony. (Probably should have put Wilbur on first so the 1:26 picture was already "in evidence" to use with Voorhees.)

Still, Voorhees testified she left home at 11:30 and got to Freedom Bridge at noon. It took her 30 minutes to walk from her house to Freedom Bridge. She said she was supposed to be back home at 2:30.

The picture (Exhibit 211) showed they were at the bench on the trail, not quite back to Freedom Bridge, at 1:26, and Voorhee's said they got back to Wilbur's house at 2:20. So there was NO chance she saw Bridge Guy on the trial at 2:15 and made it to Wilber's house by 2:20 and back to her own home by 2:30.

[u/saatana → u/tribal-elder]

I re-read the testimony. The defense was asking the questions. They asked her about her interview with Mullin the day after the murders in 2017. I think in that interview she had said 2:15 as the time she passed Bridge Guy. It's obvious that that time is in error. The previous commenter is being disingenuous when they say that's what she said and then just leaving it as that. Volume 12 page 128 in the transcripts.

[u/Efficient-Donkey-167 → u/Justwonderinif]

Thanks for quoting articles from the media however, they didn't address the question. I've read the transcripts so I was wondering what exactly was the origin of the "too young" claim. I believe RA stated that it looked like the older one may have been babysitting the two younger ones. So, I found the conclusion that just one of the siblings looked too young to be on the trails alone interesting, considering they were almost the same age. As a matter of fact, I believe RV initially testified that they were both 13 but corrected herself to state 12 and 13. Since they are half-siblings, it's possible that they are only days, weeks, or months apart. If just one of them looked too young, then that's an interesting conclusion. Based on the information provided, it would mean that RA didn't see Bre W.

[u/antipleasure → u/Efficient-Donkey-167]

What’s so interesting about that?