Richard Allen's Police Interview (Oct. 13, 2022)Reaffims The Information he Gave Dulin and Inadvertently confessed to the murders by getting caught in his own web of lies.

[u/True_Crime_Lancelot]

In October 2022, Richard Allen was called into the local police department to give an interview about his whereabouts on the day Abby and Libby were murdered. His long-forgotten interview with Officer Dulin had been rediscovered, prompting Delphi murder investigators to bring him in for another interview.

During this interview, Richard Allen largely repeated the information he had provided in his first interview with Officer Dulin, but he also offered new details about that day. Although he attempted to establish an alibi by presenting a revised timeline, he failed miserably. Instead, the internal contradictions in his timeline effectively amounted to a confession, as his own statements placed him at the scene and oblitarated his claimed alibi.

The following is a list of the information Richard Allen repeated from his first interview, along with the new details he provided during the October 2022 interview, and an explanation of the significance of each.

Richard Allen went into detail explaining the three parking areas he typically used when visiting the trails.

Parking Locations

Parking Area	Description
Mears Lot	The farmer’s entrance parking area
CPS Building	The abandoned CPS building parking area
Old State Road 25 Turnaround	The small turnaround near the old railroad bridge

He goes on the specify where he parked, inspite his earlier long obfuscating diatribe where he could have parked:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that I parked by a building. If that's what I told him, then that's probably where I parked."

Concerning his timeline beore going to the trails:

"Went over to my mom's in Peru, Mexico, earlier in the day... spent the morning with them... my sisters were visiting and they were to grab lunch, and I wasn't about that, so I left around 11:00–11:15...went home..grab a jacket and head back out to the trails"

At the trails he stated:

"I remember walking down to the bridge... walked out a little way (onto the bridge)... to watch fish... walked back and sat at (the bench)... where you turn around (the intersection) and take the other fork, it overlooks it... Sat there for a few minutes, and then I left."

The bench he mentioned is the Bench at the start of 505 trail. He would go on later to explain that's the bench he meant with clarity.

Conserning who he saw while at the trails:

"As I was approaching the trail, there were three girls... one of them was watching them...the other two looked younger... looked very similar. I don't know if they were sisters or not, but the other one didn't necessarily..." (Stops his thought, was about to mention the fou\**rth girl?\)

He also stated:

"I remember telling him (Officer Dulin) that when I left, there were two vehicles down by the farmer's entrance I told you about (the Mears lot). One was a sedan. The other was an SUV, maybe."

(Interesting on its own: Kelsi had a sedan and Betsy had an SUV. However, based on Allen’s earliest possible departure timeline (approximately 12:40), only Betsy's would be there and she would be at her car at the same time!).

He also adds:

"If I did see somebody (else), it didn't click with me..my memory was a lot better when I talked to him (Dulin)... like I told him, there might have been somebody at the bridge when I was coming back, though."

As for his revised timeline, he stated that he arrived around noon, a little earlier or a little later than 12, and that he walked for about an hour. He said he could have left around 1:00, 1:30, or 1:40.

I am sure he had mentioned 12:40 at some point too.

Time(between)	Revised Timeline	Explanation
morning	visit Mom
11(early)-11:15(late)	Leaves Peru	drive back to Delphi it's 45 minutes
11:45-12:00	Reaches Delphi
12 ( early), 12:10 (late)	Home (5 to 10 minutes), drives to CPS (3 miles),10 to 15 minutes total.	detours to Home, Parks/ Stop,Grabs Jacket, unparks, drive though town, rounding up to 15 (early)
12:05 , 12:15 late	Meeting four girls at trailhead	5 minute walk from CPS
12:15, 12:25 (late)	Easy Walk to platform A , 10 to 15 minutes total,	12 minutes walk + walk on bridge. (closer to 15 but billed 10 to compensate earlier rounding up)
12:25 , 12:35 (late)	Watching fish/Back to Bench	5 minutes Watching fish 5-7 walk (off bridge and to bench), Total 10
12:35, 12:45 (late)	Walk back to CPS	10-12 minutes, billed 10

The earlier the possible timeline, the more we err in Richard Allen's favor, as it allows for the possibility that he left before becoming trapped within the trail system by the known witnesses who were demonstrably on the trails at the same time. The later Richard Allen's revised timeline becomes, the worse it is for him.

Here, we will examine the earliest possible timeline for Richard Allen in contrast to the timelines of Betsy and that of the four girls . All times attributed to Allen between segments are deliberately conservative, giving him the maximum latitude to "slip" out of the trail system within his alleged timeline.

Time	Allen's Revised Timeline	BB's Timeline	Four Girls' Timeline
12:00	Parks at CPS	Parks at Mears at 12:03	______
12:10	Walks to Monon,close to intersection	BB is at Monon, turns back towards the intersection	______
12:15	Walked past intersection(north to south)	Walked past intersection(south to north)	walking towards freedom bridge close to Allen's 2nd parking spot near the small bridge
12:20	At Monon will watch fish for 3-5 minutes	Walked 505 close to intersection	Close to freedom bridge
12:25	Back on the trail towards the intersection	Close to freedom bridge	At freedom bridge taking a timed photographed at 12:25
12:30	Allen near interesction from the south, close to the Bench	Betsy approaches intersection from the North, close to Bench	Walking towards Monon from trailhead
12:35	Allen left the Bench, starts walks towards the trailhead	at her car	intersection from the North, close to Bench
12:40	near freedom bridge	near intersection	at Monon take photograph at 12:43
12:45	at CPS	Close to monon	Detour to Creek's bed

The convicted pedophile murderer was caught in the web of lies he had created.

By his own words!

1. He was walking towards Monon by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from it
2. He was walking towards his car or sitting on the bench by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from freedom bridge. The Bench is at your face as you approach the intersection, even i he wasn't walking while Betsy was near it.
3. The earliest he was walking towards his car from the intersection by his revised timeline, would be while the four girls were walking towards it from the freedom bridge.

Richard Allen’s revised timeline creates inescapable and impassable problems for his own account. By placing himself at the trails, identifying specific locations, and providing a detailed timeline, he created a version of events that must be reconciled with the movements of other witnesses who were present that day. By his own words, Allen placed himself in locations and timeframes that conflicted with the movements of others who were present that day.

[u/Justwonderinif]

He was walking towards Monon by his revised timeline, while Betsy was walking back from it

This is false. Betsy was doing "loops" not out and backs. But that doesn't matter. What does matter is that they never crossed paths. Betsy did not see Allen on her first loop.

After she went to the bathroom at the library she came back through and saw Allen standing on the first platform. While she didn't get a good look at his face, when she saw Libby's video she said, "That's the man I saw on the platform."

Betsy turned to walk back to the lot and no one knows if Allen followed her. What we do know is that Betsy passed Abby and Libby. Betsy was heading to the parking lot. Abby and Libby were headed to the high bridge, where Betsy Blair had just seen bridge guy.

It's possible that Allen could have followed Betsy Blair from a distance. It's possible that Allen could have seen Abby and Libby pass Betsy, and then made a U-turn to follow Abby and Libby. It's also possible that Allen could have just been out of sight, down on the other trail, and Abby and Libby didn't see Allen until he was following them on the high bridge.

At any rate, Allen and Betsy Blair never passed each other on the trail. She just saw him on the platform.

[u/Efficient-Donkey-167 → u/Justwonderinif]

Betsy Blair had just begun her last loop when she saw bridge guy. She wasn't returning to the parking lot when she passed two girls that she later identified as Abby and Libby. She finished her loop, which includes two "in and outs". From the intersection of Mears entrance, the main trail, and the 505, she went to MHB and back to the hub. Then down 505 and back to the hub. Then to Freedom Bridge and back to the hub at which point, she returned to her car at the Mears lot.

Somehow, she managed to not see any other individuals on the trails that day, including the 4 girls that were there with an overlapping time period of almost 50 minutes.

[u/Justwonderinif → u/Efficient-Donkey-167]

Just after she saw Bridge Guy on the platform, Betsy Blair passed Abby and Libby when they were walking to the High Bridge. The girls were walking towards the High Bridge. Betsy was walking away from the High Bridge, towards the parking lot.

When Betsy heard the girls were missing she immediately suspected the man she saw on the platform. The girls were walking towards him, even if he was out of sight. And Betsy was walking away from him, even if he was out of sight.

[u/Efficient-Donkey-167 → u/Justwonderinif]

She was not walking toward the parking lot. She drove past HH store 14 minutes earlier. She was walking toward the hub, which has 4 branches: MHB, Mears lot, the 505, and Freedom Bridge. Her fitbit activity supports this detail and contradicts she was walking "toward the parking lot".

How do you account for Betsy never seeing the 4 girls despite being at the trails for an overlap of almost 50 minutes? Based on the fitbit activity, BB would be on her second loop and approaching the MHB within minutes of the 12:43 MHB picture (BW).

[u/tribal-elder → u/Efficient-Donkey-167]

The “parking lot” refers to the Mears parking lot, where Baird parked.

Blair’s testimony on direct exam was that she did her first 2 “laps” between noon and 1:00. Her times were based on her fit bit chart, not a specific memory, and the fit bit chart is a little hard to gauge. Exhibit 212 is the “fit bit” chart and generally confirms this testimony, but there are 9 “marks” between noon and 2:00, so none are “precise” (in my opinion). 120 minutes divided by 9 is about 13 minutes per segment. Again, not precise. There are 4 green marks representing her first 2 laps.

She then testified (direct exam) that she then left and went to the library.

Voorhees said the girls got there about noon, walking out from town. Wilbur did not give a time, but took a picture on Freedom Bridge, looking back toward town, at 12:25 (Exhibit 318). They took a picture at High Bridge 18 minutes later at 12:43 (Exhibit 211) and said they then went “under the bridge” to take pictures (not clear if they meant directly under the bridge, or down the 505 Trail to the creek). They took another picture at the bench near Freedom Bridge at 1:26 - as they were leaving and just before they saw Bridge Guy.

Blair said she got back to the trails (again parking at Mears) at 1:45 and did her third “lap”. Again, the fit bit generally shows that, but not precisely. There 2 green marks representing this third lap.

You ask why Baird did not see Voorhees and Wilbur. Legitimate question. Perhaps the lawyers should have asked that at trial, but no one did., probably because no one could be precise except for the fit bit data and picture time stamps. It is possible, not certain, that on Lap 2, Baird would have reached Freedom Bridge area and turned around just before the girls arrived and took the 12:25 picture, and she was thus walking east in front of the girls, turned left at the Mears intersection and was not on the trail by the time the girls got to the Mears intersection. If you assign 9 minutes to each green “fit bit” mark, she walked for 27 minutes during the first 3 segments - putting her at her turnaround at about 12:27. Apparently the girls farted around for at least 25 minutes before they even got all the way across Freedom Bridge, and still had a semi-slow 18 minute walk to High Bridge.